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lockept93 08-22-2021 09:34 AM

How much % of spending money in adult is crypto right now?
 
When we include all paysites, subservices, camsites and so on - how big is the part of crypto money?

CurrentlySober 08-22-2021 09:41 AM

tree fiddy

zijlstravideo 08-22-2021 09:50 AM

Last year, I believe the average was around 1% to 1.5%... Maybe a bit higher by now. Likely still very low.

fuzebox 08-22-2021 10:06 AM

Less than 0.1% across the board.

The 1% figure is just companies that have actually integrated it.

plsureking 08-22-2021 03:38 PM

you can't sell subscriptions or pay out affiliates with an unstable currency. your subs are worth a different value every day. i can sell a $30 sub for the BTC value and then it drops 20%. i just lost 20% and i still have to pay the affiliate. it doesn't work (yet).

:2 cents:

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wankawonk 08-22-2021 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plsureking (Post 22903435)
you can't sell subscriptions or pay out affiliates with an unstable currency. your subs are worth a different value every day. i can sell a $30 sub for the BTC value and then it drops 20%. i just lost 20% and i still have to pay the affiliate. it doesn't work (yet).

:2 cents:

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1) you can't sell a subscription in crypto anyway, there's no way to bill users

2) if an affiliate wants to be paid in crypto -- you force THEM to take the risk. they get credit $30 to their account when they make a sale -- when its time for a payout, if they want crypto, you make the conversion USD->crypto right then and there.

I do understand there are accounting considerations from the business' perspective.

jscott 08-22-2021 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 22903333)
Less than 0.1% across the board.

The 1% figure is just companies that have actually integrated it.

Love it! Reminds how early we are. These companies don't even use Lightning yet.

jamezon 08-22-2021 11:13 PM

there are stablecoins to overcome fluctuation concerning payouts and they do work fine, could be a great option . the subscription thing is another problem. ... sooner or later one blockchain will come up with a solution for rebills. lets see and wait

bugmenot4real 08-23-2021 12:05 AM

for me 100% but for everyone i guess it should be around 2-5%.

el_mago 08-23-2021 03:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plsureking (Post 22903435)
you can't sell subscriptions or pay out affiliates with an unstable currency. your subs are worth a different value every day. i can sell a $30 sub for the BTC value and then it drops 20%. i just lost 20% and i still have to pay the affiliate. it doesn't work (yet).

:2 cents:

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You can auto convert crypto to fiat when making sales through crypto you fucking idiot

plsureking 08-23-2021 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by el_mago (Post 22903645)
You can auto convert crypto to fiat when making sales through crypto you fucking idiot

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

losers are so brave online..

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jscott 08-23-2021 08:24 AM

@plsureking, he has a point

paid in BTC you can:

a.) keep in BTC and enjoy the ride up or down
or
b.) convert BTC to fiat instantly at point of sale

lockept93 08-23-2021 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jscott (Post 22903764)
@plsureking, he has a point

paid in BTC you can:

a.) keep in BTC and enjoy the ride up or down
or
b.) convert BTC to fiat instantly at point of sale

Yes. But anyway there is no reason to insult someone who just dont know that yet.

And cause i know that my initial question was more about costumer payments - how big is the % of the costumers of a paysite that use crypto.

If the other answers above are right with still under 1% - it's pretty sad that there is no chance to make a service without creditcard or other "normal" payment methodes...

jscott 08-23-2021 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lockept93 (Post 22903812)
Yes. But anyway there is no reason to insult someone who just dont know that yet.

I agree with you. Insults suck

Jazzix 08-23-2021 12:40 PM

Crypto currency is way to volatile to be used as anything unless you can cash in immediately

Basically a scam

fuzebox 08-23-2021 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lockept93 (Post 22903812)
If the other answers above are right with still under 1% - it's pretty sad that there is no chance to make a service without creditcard or other "normal" payment methodes...

This industry is built on rebills. Most of these companies couldn't exist relying on manual, one-time transactions.

jscott 08-23-2021 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jazzix (Post 22903885)
Crypto currency is way to volatile to be used as anything unless you can cash in immediately
Basically a scam

that's a dipshit right there :1orglaugh

(insult was surely invited with that ignorance)

plsureking 08-23-2021 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jscott (Post 22903764)
@plsureking, he has a point

paid in BTC you can:

a.) keep in BTC and enjoy the ride up or down
or
b.) convert BTC to fiat instantly at point of sale

ya thanks, that's why i hopped into this thread. i haven't looked at crypto payments in a few years (since Verotel played with it). a client asked about crypto payments last weekend.

i agree with fuzebox about rebills. there's no crypto biller managing rebills? or its not technically possible?

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zijlstravideo 08-23-2021 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plsureking (Post 22903938)
i agree with fuzebox about rebills. there's no crypto biller managing rebills? or its not technically possible?

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Not possible without some sort of escrow in middle holding the funds.


One quick and dirty solution would be paysites having their own hosted web-wallet, in which customers can deposit funds (to automatically pay the monthly fee), but also the option to withdraw their funds (in case they would like to cancel).

But that would also be kinda risky, considering it's no longer decentralized. And as a customer you have to trust that website holding your crypto funds.

DFWKnight 08-23-2021 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plsureking (Post 22903435)
you can't sell subscriptions or pay out affiliates with an unstable currency. your subs are worth a different value every day. i can sell a $30 sub for the BTC value and then it drops 20%. i just lost 20% and i still have to pay the affiliate. it doesn't work (yet).

:2 cents:

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spot on.

DFWKnight 08-23-2021 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jazzix (Post 22903885)
Crypto currency is way to volatile to be used as anything unless you can cash in immediately

Basically a scam

Squeeze isn't worth the juice just yet.

charlie g 08-23-2021 09:01 PM

USDT for the win. The only reason to accept any other coin is for pure speculation.

jscott 08-23-2021 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charlie g (Post 22904137)
USDT for the win. The only reason to accept any other coin is for pure speculation.

When you have Bitcoin, limited supply & growing adoption against a forever inflating fiat currency, it's not really speculating is it? more like, common sense or logic.

Mikehan 08-23-2021 11:06 PM

Now days it quite down. Last year it was on peak. Invest some money and forget about 2 or 3 years. And sell when you think you have some good profit.

plsureking 08-24-2021 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zijlstravideo (Post 22903987)
Not possible without some sort of escrow in middle holding the funds.


One quick and dirty solution would be paysites having their own hosted web-wallet, in which customers can deposit funds (to automatically pay the monthly fee), but also the option to withdraw their funds (in case they would like to cancel).

But that would also be kinda risky, considering it's no longer decentralized. And as a customer you have to trust that website holding your crypto funds.

thanks! ya i guess its no good for rebills. tips/tributes will work.

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