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LaSexorcisto 06-30-2022 02:28 PM

Why are paid subscription sites considered high risk by processors?
 
I would think that people who signup for a monthly subscription are less likely to chargeback than someone purchasing one-time digital content.

baddog 06-30-2022 02:55 PM

It is the product, not the length of membership that makes it "high risk."

LaSexorcisto 06-30-2022 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 23017264)
It is the product, not the length of membership that makes it "high risk."

Interesting. It was explained to me that high risk assessment is based off of the likelihood of receiving chargebacks, which is quite common with digital purchases.

I guess it doesn't matter which type of transactions you handle. If you're in adult, then you're automatically high risk.

blackmonsters 06-30-2022 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LaSexorcisto (Post 23017255)
I would think that people who signup for a monthly subscription are less likely to chargeback than someone purchasing one-time digital content.

You have to go back to 1998 or so, when many porn sites were fake and didn't even have a members area.
They would say "Enter credit card info for age verification only, this site is free", and
then bang the credit card for $60-$120; but the password never worked because they
never built a members area.

:1orglaugh

And then came "Pre-checked cross sales". That exploded the chargebacks on sites that actually had a members area.

:2 cents:

baddog 06-30-2022 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LaSexorcisto (Post 23017271)
Interesting. It was explained to me that high risk assessment is based off of the likelihood of receiving chargebacks, which is quite common with digital purchases.

I guess it doesn't matter which type of transactions you handle. If you're in adult, then you're automatically high risk.

I would say that's a pretty safe presumption but if you have really good ratios you can probably negotiate a deal.

RyuLion 06-30-2022 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 23017278)
You have to go back to 1998 or so, when many porn sites were fake and didn't even have a members area.
They would say "Enter credit card info for age verification only, this site is free", and
then bang the credit card for $60-$120; but the password never worked because they
never built a members area.

:1orglaugh

And then came "Pre-checked cross sales". That exploded the chargebacks on sites that actually had a members area.

:2 cents:

BOOM! :2 cents:

CurrentlySober 07-01-2022 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 23017278)
You have to go back to 1998 or so, when many porn sites were fake and didn't even have a members area.
They would say "Enter credit card info for age verification only, this site is free", and
then bang the credit card for $60-$120; but the password never worked because they
never built a members area.

https://whitehouse.com/ was like that, back in the day... There was a shitty members area though, albeit nothing actually worked inside it. :2 cents:

I remember someone 'verified their age' and then came complaining to me about it when they got charged! I asked what exactly 'I' was supposed to do about it, and they said 'Get me my money back - YOU do internet sites don't you? Tell them to give me it back!' :1orglaugh

That's why I remember the URL.

w4mmaps 07-01-2022 08:57 PM

The "age verification" for "free" trick is still happening in a big way, usually with 2 cross sales, for a total of 3 random charges going off. I'm surprised they still get away with that shit lol.

SpicyM 07-02-2022 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by w4mmaps (Post 23017553)
The "age verification" for "free" trick is still happening in a big way, usually with 2 cross sales, for a total of 3 random charges going off. I'm surprised they still get away with that shit lol.

I wish such scumbags ended up in jail... no wonder people are reluctant to trust legit porn sites if there are assholes doing this.

blackmonsters 07-02-2022 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RyuLion (Post 23017333)
BOOM! :2 cents:

Quote:

Originally Posted by CurrentlySober (Post 23017351)
https://whitehouse.com/ was like that, back in the day... There was a shitty members area though, albeit nothing actually worked inside it. :2 cents:

I remember someone 'verified their age' and then came complaining to me about it when they got charged! I asked what exactly 'I' was supposed to do about it, and they said 'Get me my money back - YOU do internet sites don't you? Tell them to give me it back!' :1orglaugh

That's why I remember the URL.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpicyM (Post 23017738)
I wish such scumbags ended up in jail... no wonder people are reluctant to trust legit porn sites if there are assholes doing this.

And the irony is that every user would have been happy if pay sites back then stole all their content from other pay sites sites like a tube site.


:1orglaugh

todservices 07-03-2022 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpicyM (Post 23017738)
I wish such scumbags ended up in jail... no wonder people are reluctant to trust legit porn sites if there are assholes doing this.

People are not reluctant to trust legit porn sites.
People have all the porn they want for free, why would they pay ?

nakedby 07-06-2022 02:41 AM

I guess it is because the websites/producers are willing to pay that premium.
My chargeback ratios were always below 0.5% - a lot lower than mainstream.
Go figure.


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