CREEPCLUB Introduction
 

Hi guy,

My name is Robert Paulson and I am the main web developer for CREEP.CLUB.

I just wanted to take the time to introduce ourselves. We are a new niche adult site. At CC we offer paid videos to users, with a small collection of free videos for those who wish to see what we are about before deciding to join. For people with other sites, if you wish, we have a referral system, up 50% if a user joins via your link. We have people like PornDude who has us. It's very simple to setup, create a free account > Go to settings > Creep.Bank > And you be able to see your link there. You can also add your website to our site, by going to profile settings > plugs. There you can add all your sites and other social media platforms. And if you need any help with any of this. There are lots of admins that are willing to help. Just send them a message or submit a support ticket

That's all from me folks.
Nice meeting you all.
-CC

welcome to the fucking GFY !

Welcome to the jungle... :pimp

Hello and welcome on board!

have fun in prison if you're .us based is all i can say.

put yourself in the shoes of any father, and see if you would be ok with some "creep" (so aptly named) sexualizing your teenage daughter, and plastering her face over the internet.

if you created and logged into any of the accounts (site, domain, hosting, billing) from your wifi, let's just say that it's not a matter of if, but that it's only a matter of when you're going to prison.

Welcome to the zoo. If you wish to get your creepful site by the Porn Geek don't hesitate to contact Danny [email protected] :thumbsup.

I messaged you

Welcome to the zoo

Somewhat dissapooted that 'CLUBCREEPs Public Dump' wasn't exactly what I was hoping for... :(

Welcome aboard and Goodluck with your website

Welcome to GFY!

Lmboooo.... I think some people on the site, have what your looking for. Check it out.

Just replied to you :thumbsup.

site full of stolen content. go fuck yourself. :321GFY

and the folks saying welcome! are either complicit or ignorant.

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They never look they just spew...

Hello Robert and welcome to GFY!

Both?

Terrible site.

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How legal is the site/content?

Have you model release/consent for ALL content on this site?

Welcome!
We new here too )

Welcum to the bordello

This should be banned. Everyone doing this stuff is on the same level with real rape content.

Is the content actually illegal or stolen? I licensed a ton of stuff identical to this when I ran my voyeur paysites.

They would have to be really ballzy to release a site if the content isn't legal.

Unless they are hosting on some offshore accounts and are receiving payments anonymously through crypto / fake aliases and live in countries with no extradition laws, these guys are just begging to be prosecuted.

i dont know about that but they should def be prosecuted for how many fucking times that shitty popup happens asking you to AGREE TO ENTER THE ADULT WEBSITE. lifetime jail term. think i'll go with their "freeloader" subscription. some of you guys sound like you might wanna pay $33 to try it out for a month though.

I attempted a takedown request. They responded and acted on it immediately. Looks like a tube site to me. And if they are doing their due diligence honestly, then I don't see why they would be taken down when sites like TomVoyeur and Amateurvoyeurforum have been standing for 10-20+ years.

Section 230. And unlike those other sketchy websites, as one person pointed out here. They have solid looking walls and measures up. Voyeur gets a bad name, when really, things like intentional exhibitionism are voyeur. But of course, a few bad uploaders get an inch and take a mile with it.

We may not like it sometimes, but we must respect the 230. It protects all of us.

Welcome to GFY :pimp

the problem with user generated content - that isn't produced by the user - is this is another fucking site you have to watch for your content.

where are they sourcing the content? from all these fucking script kiddies and downloaders hitting my servers all day all night.

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Apologies, I don't know what your content is or what you produce specifically. And by no means am I defending this website; aside from that I am defending Section 230. But to play Devil's Advocate here, at face value, it would seem the website has actual users uploading actual content. Profiles are clickable. Community is active. Unlike websites like voyeurhit.com

AND... you just happened to post in this thread.

Look, you're not protected.

Hosting your site in the Netherlands with AltusHost.com doesn't mean that the feds can't or won't get you.

The reason why you aren't protected is quite simple really: you aptly named your website "CREEP.CLUB", which means that you are fully aware of who is going to be using it, and what for.

Which means, you know that these "creeps" will be uploading what's known as "OC" (Original Content) and you're monetizing it.

They're taking pictures of unaware women, their family members (cousins, sisters, etc) and once again: you're monetizing it.

Had your site been named something innocent like RandomTube.com, then sure, you're protected as long as all of the content is user generated, and as long as all of the content goes live immediately.

You incriminate yourself enough...

Taken from the forum thread about the badges:

You are saying that you are aware of what they're uploading, and that it's their content, which makes them criminals (recording someone against their own will, and putting up spy cameras in changing rooms is a crime in itself) and you as well. Moreover, you're saying that those women (incl. children) are Pokemon...

Being caught, generally means that they either got prosecuted eventually or are trying to have that content removed now. But once again, you're incriminating yourself here by admitting that one of your members got arrested, released, and is now a member again as well!

Anyway, enjoy your freedom while you can...

I know what you're trying to get at by saying "AND you just do happen to post here." But you're incorrect. I do happen to know a bit about this topic though so I felt inclined to respond.

May I ask your thoughts on TomVoyeur.com which has been online for 20+ years? They even have a credit card processor with CCBill. Used to accept checks in the mail. And so on. AmateurVoyeurForum.com -Is commonly listed as one of the biggest forum/boards on the 'top porn' sites, like PornDude and MrPornGeek. They've been operating quite a while also. Voyeurhit.com, another tube site, highly ranked, lots of traffic, where the admins of the site are actually the ones doing the posting of the content. There are many more examples, to be sure. I do not encourage sites like Club Creep. But there is an argument to made, these sites exist. Many of them, side from C.C. Have been operating for much longer under much more mainstream platforms. CCBill, which many of you use here also do processing for sites like egoistewc.com. This Club Creep site doesn't have nearly the numbers or impact or consequences like some of these other ones do. And at the very least, have 230 going for them and respect takedowns. Again, that is not encouragement, that is devils advocate. The real problems, at the very least in order of priority are elsewhere.

Pointing fingers isn't a valid defense.

Tom Voyeur is illegal, too.

Skorts Hidden Dressing Room from Tom Voyeur's World

They uploaded thousands of clips by themselves, and that by itself means that those "user" accounts are probably them as well.

They don't have the legal docs for any of that content, so they will likely be losing their billing very soon, and one good thing about the VISA/MC changes is that dishonest companies like that won't be able to operate that easily.

AmateurVoyeurForum.com is a Czech-based forum and the owner tries to be as ignorant as he possibly can about the content, but the content that they have there is illegal, period. They hack into websites, people's computers, and post the ZIP files of that same content.

VoyeurHit.com is not a typical tube site, it's part of the TubeCup network (WTFBucks/Serious-Partners) and they usually pad their tubes with content off of usenet, torrents, other tubes, etc) but you will have an impossible time proving that those are their uploads, because they do have at least 50% of actual user uploaded content, and they're not incriminating themselves in any way, either.

Creep.Club, Tom Voyeur and AmateurVoyeurForum are all incriminating themselves, however.

The main difference between those other sites and Creep.Club is that they're not as blatant about it. But Creep.Club doesn't hide the fact about who it's made for, and who uploads the content: criminals.

P.S. Egoiste WC will likely be canned by CCBill ASAP if brought to their attention, and the person is likely using a shell to bill for it. That content is 100% ILLEGAL.

You don't get fined if you put a spy camera in a changing room or a bathroom, you go to prison. So it's crazy that someone thinks that you can knowingly host it, let alone bill for it.

Seriously, rethink your life choices.

Ironic part about this, though you may think I'm being a cheerleader, I actually did bring those companies (and a few dozen more) to CCBill's attention a few months back. The reason I know a bit about this subject is because I work to eliminate them. CCBill did nothing. Actually, they tipped off places like TomVoyeur and told them to relax on 'toilet content' (as you can see on their forums). And then when it was secondly brought to CCBill's attention that sites like TomVoyeur were publicly stating that their credit card processor was giving them tips on how to keep them as a credit card processor, CCBill then gave them a stern talking to and they tried their best to clean up what was said. EgoisteWC, and well, no need to repeat myself; many, many others were brought to their attention and nothing was done about it.

As for your statement about Club Creep being blatantly obvious, I do not see the difference between that and the domain 'VoyeurHit', and how that isn't an obvious intention? Is there a bit of bias here because they have what you deem to be legitimate platforms outside of it? The creep site definitely has more attitude about it, but apples and oranges. It is apparent to me what Voyeurhit is supposed to be and do not see what the parent company should no be held responsible for it.

I feel quite solid in my life choices. As mentioned; I am no cheerleader for these websites. I am their enemy. And you said it yourself, there are places like AmateurVoyeurForum and VoyeurHit, that refuse to take content down at all. All I am saying is to pick our battles wisely, and in priority. While I do not agree with Club Creep, we want to approach tackling 230 carefully. And at least they abide by that.

my comment was about content theft. i don't care about the voyeur thing (unless they are underage). the site clearly approves of content theft. they mention ripping direct from tubes in the faq. i've seen content on there that i know is not owned by the user uploading it, since i know the producer.

this site is just another pirate's cove. :2 cents:

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:disgust:disgust:disgust BOOO!!

Actually though, the more you 'relax' the more comes out, so this isn't an entirely bad thing I suppose... :2 cents:

Meet the adult industry.


Welcome

Similar to Is Anyone Up?

No, not at all. But it does seem like that is at the forefront of everyone's mind lately with the Netflix Docuseries that came out.

I'd wager that the most similar thing to IsAnyoneUp at the moment would be platforms like Chatpic, Statewins, etc. Chatpic was really the result of Anon-IB going down, and Anon-IB itself was more or less the next big thing after IsAnyoneUp. There are still a few Anon-IB spinoffs out there that aren't really taking off, and 4Chan is utilized quite often still for this purpose. Otherwise, a lot of those groups have moved to strictly using third party platforms like Mega.nz And Telegram and Discord. But more or less, advertise those private groups through websites like Chatpic.

It is somethng to consider.

How does 230 protect all of us?

If someone uploads something to your server that happens to be illegal, then you (the owner/operator or webmaster) only have the duty to moderate or remove the content, but do not need to take on the same legal consequence of having uploaded the illegal item as it would still fall onto the outside entity/uploader.

It protects thieves and criminals. Everyone should be responsible for the content on his/her website and if they don't want to take the responsibility they should verify and provide the identity of the person who uploaded the content = problem solved. Fuck anonymous user uploads. Internet would be a much safer place this way. :2 cents:

I agree to an extent. But to the same extent that I agree with free speech. "I may not agree with what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it." Mentality.

Because with what you suggested, while it does take care of those issues on an individual basis, the larger consequences of that would be; no platforms like social media even. Facebook, Instagram, or even this forum where you wrote your opinion. Forums, essentially, would not be allowed to exist if you took that law away at face value. Because at any given time you could use your account to upload something against the terms of service here. And if it was illegal then, no fault of the website owners and operators, would be on them, and not you. And that is not fair.

Everything has pros and cons. And there are plenty of other copyright/dmca/trademark laws, among many others that tackle porn specifically. We should hold credit card processors and all the others responsible, or tighten the laws and the standards of website moderation. For instance; XHamster rarely takes down content unless reported. Why are they not actively taking it down on their own accord without it being brought to their attention? Plenty of things that could be done. But to take away the broad protection of 230. That is just ridiculous.

I suggest you reread my post. If a site owner doesn't want to be responsible, they should verify each user and name the responsible person who uploaded the content. And I could't care less about social networks, fuck them. Being responsible for the content that YOU decided can be freely added to YOUR own website by users (again - your decision) is 100% fair.

Because there is no law that would force them to do that - that's what I'm talking about. Xhamster started to verify their users about 10 months ago and suddenly there is no pirated content uploaded since then. All those pirated videos you see are uploads prior to this change. All those thieving assholes pissed their pants and moved elsewhere because no thief/criminal will provide his ID.

PH is one of the most popular websites in the world and they are able to verify uploads, so don't tell me that others are not able to do that. Social networks earn billions each year, they have all the resources to do this. They just fear a massive loss of users - those shitbags know that a user breaking the law on their servers is still a user.

Consider your suggestion taken, your post re-read, and my conclusions the same and unchanged. I understood the first time around what you were conveying and I reach the same verdicts.

The beauty of democracy is that your opinion is not the only one that matters. So while you may feel like you "couldn't care less about social media", many people do. Millions, upon millions, and billions, even.
Yes, Pornhub is one of the most popular sites on the internet. And to help your argument along, XVideos is currently more popular than that even. But you're talking about numbers in terms of traffic. Actual users created, hours logged in, actively using the site is a much different monster that needs wrestling with. And in essence, social media sites do attempt to do this through confirmation links in emails and 2-factor authentication with phone numbers, AI to find re-uploaded photos and media. Social media sites do also regularly ban and suspend accounts that may very likely be fake.

Yes, some of those sites do make billions of dollars, and yes, they could theoretically go to the same lengths as porn sites to do this. Key words would definitely only be; "some of those websites make billions" because many, many, more, do not.
But what you are suggesting is absolutely absurd. My grandmother, for example, she probably has a dozen or so Facebook accounts, because she's not well adjusted with technology, forgets her information, and so on. So a senile grandmother needs to upload I.D. And Social security number, answer identifying information, and yadda yadda, to post some pictures of her grandkids? Pretending she even makes it that far. And then the risk of that information being leaked in a database?
I know this is not a unique case. But outside of that even, in countries all around the world where accessing certain websites under cruel regimes is illegal but helps connect to like minded individuals. Or, while Facebook may make billions, what about the new sole proprietorship that just sunk all of their capital and savings into a new business venture, a website or platform that allows for innocent user uploads. This is not even to mention the inherit privacy issues you'd get into by doing such a thing. (Could write a Biblical sized argument on that one alone). These are not 1 in a million examples, or needles in haystacks, they are frequently occurring. And well... The far reaching repercussions of what you are trying to base your argument on just because you're a little upset someone pirated your booty a few times, that would be just grossly ridiculous and selfish.

I have opinions also. And you may even be surprised to learn that they are not too far removed from your own. But in the grand scheme of things, the way the world works and operates, the good and the bad, it does require that big picture thinking. Not just your own, or even 'our' adult business being compromised.

The world does not revolve around you. And for better or worse, the law is in place for a reason, and it is important. So do we just let things continue the way they are or have been? No. I think there are ways to combat the very real problems you mentioned. But I also know that it requires more thought than "those porn sites did that and it helped a little bit, albeit not entirely so let's apply that same thinking to the rest of the internet."

I should have written that I couldn't care less about social media and the people using them. However I do care about my IP rights and my right to privacy and personal data protection which is extremly easily abusable on social networks and file sharing sites.


Anyone can register a shitload of free email addresses, use anonymous phone numbers (there are apps for this) and VPNs, so this kind of "verification" is weak. It doesn't verify the name of the person.

You know what is absurd? That your grandma is OK with uploading personal photos (= personal data) of her grandkids to her personal profile on a public social network (especially the one notoriously known for abusing user's personal data) and yet she is worried that her ID might be leaked... Dude, that is fucking absurd, thanks for the laugh.

There is no human right to have a profile on social media, so again zero fucks given about someone's grandma not being able to get on FB.

Yeah, me too... I would start by expressing my opinion that users who share their own personal details and photos on FB are not very clever, but the real idiots are those who share personal details of others, which is a usual thing and nobody controls this unless someone complains.

If someone wanted to ruin the life of your kid, they could do that in a second by publishing a compromising photo or video that could be accessible to millions of people around the world (this shitty tube proves that) - now think about the damage you smartass... and since accounts are not verified and uploads are not checked, preventing it or getting the person who did that could be impossible. Troubles of your grandma with the registration process sound ridiculous compared to the damage that can be done due to the weak protection of the rights of others.

Talking about privacy protection on social networks where people publicly discuss their personal lifes is completely self-contradictory as social networks are privacy violators per se.

BTW:

I hope you realize that everyone in this business who uses pictures and videos depicting other persons (including the tube you are defending here) is actually using (or abusing) their personal data (again, photography containing identification marks = personal data)... That doesn't concern you? I am asking since you seem worried about possible ID leaks from some stupid social network which doesn't even need to store the copies after verification.

BTW2:

Most tubes including CREEP.CLUB are not compliant with GDPR and they are obliged to be - they don't provide the identity of the data controller and their contact details... how surprising that scumbags need to hide their asses...


Yeah, it's fucking time to tighten the laws.