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wasteland 07-31-2022 02:41 PM

Judge refuses to remove Visa from Pornhub child porn lawsuit
 
Batten down the merchant accounts. Shit usually runs downhill.

A federal judge ruled Friday that Visa helped Pornhub “monetize child porn” and sex trafficking — a decision that could have long-lasting implications for credit card companies, legal observers say.

The court denied Visa’s motion to be dropped from a lawsuit against porn parent company MindGeek, ruling there was enough evidence to show the company “knowingly provid[ed] the tool used to complete the crime” of distributing child pornography.

The decision was made in connection with a suit filed by a woman who claims Pornhub dragged its heels after she warned it was hosting an explicit video taken of her when she was 13 — at one point requiring photographic evidence that she was the same child in the video.

After several weeks, the clip, entitled “13-Year Old Brunette Shows Off For the Camera,” was taken down but reuploaded on other MindGeek sites in 2014, garnering millions of views and earning the company advertising money facilitated by Visa, the victim alleged. The illicit clip was still on the company’s sites as recently as 2020, according to the suit.

The plaintiff fell into a deep depression, tried to kill herself and became a heroin user after her unwanted infamy, she claimed. Still underage, she began acting in other porn videos produced by an older man to support her habit, the lawsuit said.


In his ruling, US District Court Judge Cormac Carney wrote that there was enough evidence to find that Visa engaged in a criminal conspiracy with the online pornographers.

“Here is Visa, standing at and controlling the valve, insisting that it cannot be blamed for the water spill because someone else is wielding the hose,” Carney wrote.

https://nypost.com/2022/07/31/judge-...-porn-lawsuit/

mainstreammix 07-31-2022 07:59 PM

Is this accurate? What kind of idiot would go to the mat over a video named "13-Year Old Brunette Shows Off For the Camera"?

sandman! 07-31-2022 08:38 PM

This crap will be thrown out on appeal

plsureking 07-31-2022 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sandman! (Post 23027734)
This crap will be thrown out on appeal

Visa will attack all the adult site owners long before the case is over. they already started...

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JayMoyes 08-01-2022 12:01 AM

By the way, when it comes to CP, this is part of the intended damage. The material itself is used as leverage to control the victim into their adulthood.

Child advocate, attorney and true crime author Andrew Vachss ran across this in his cases and noted it in his books. Visa should have washed their hands of PH long ago.

SpicyM 08-01-2022 07:09 AM

I just wish the same logic and responsibility was applied to all companies (ad networks, cam sites...) that use VISA and sponsor piracy sites at the same time. :2 cents:

mainstreammix 08-01-2022 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpicyM (Post 23027815)
I just wish the same logic and responsibility was applied to all companies (ad networks, cam sites...) that use VISA and sponsor piracy sites at the same time. :2 cents:

Cause piracy, which isn't even a thing in many parts of the world, is comparable to CP? :helpme

pornguy 08-01-2022 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mainstreammix (Post 23027722)
Is this accurate? What kind of idiot would go to the mat over a video named "13-Year Old Brunette Shows Off For the Camera"?

Was the uploader arrested? Or did they simply follow the money as always.

wasteland 08-01-2022 12:34 PM

Update:
Controversial California Judge Rules Visa Can Be Tried as MindGeek's 'Co-Conspirator'
https://www.xbiz.com/news/267931/con...co-conspirator

ZENRA 08-01-2022 01:16 PM

I think this will be appealed/thrown out/lost/whatever because if a card company can be liable for processing illegal things, this will go way beyond internet pornography into nearly every aspect of life as we know it.

NALEM 08-01-2022 01:57 PM

Without reading the original complaint or the filed responses, my knee jerk reaction to the Judge's decision is "fan-fucking-tastic". Visa has merchant rules in place, which they failed to enforce. PornHub's alleged actions and failures were not one time missteps. Visa were enablers, and should be held accountable.

In the bigger scheme of things Visa will likely pay a relatively small fine, and will bring about harsher more unreasonable policy changes that will effect the small and medium size businesses that must comply or else. Its unfortunate that this industry failed to self regulate.

TaiGhost 08-02-2022 02:32 AM

May pirates, thieves and those who support revenge and rape and scat videos all face a harsh judgment.

Sadly, the lawsuit can still be tossed. I guess it will depend on how the plaintiff's lawyers respond to the Judge's questions.

Thank you, Bill Ackman. Wherever you are.

PorcoRosso 08-04-2022 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NALEM (Post 23028017)
In the bigger scheme of things Visa will likely pay a relatively small fine, and will bring about harsher more unreasonable policy changes that will effect the small and medium size businesses that must comply or else. Its unfortunate that this industry failed to self regulate.

Very likely.
They can get over it with their great lawyers and PR specialists, make an apology for not seeing it earlier and showing that they started to be a lot more restrictive since 2020 with the PH affair and they'll get even stricter, that from now on it's blablabla zero tolerance blablabla and they'll manage.
And they actually got a lot stricter, requiring proof of models being 18+, having all docs, and all... and it's actually a lot more work for everyone already, but we all comply and that's ultimately healthy for the industry.

plsureking 08-04-2022 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by TaiGhost (Post 23028170)
May pirates, thieves and those who support revenge and rape and scat videos all face a harsh judgment.

fuck pirates and sex crimes, but why you gotta throw skat in there? our boy CurrentlySober gonna be sad.

:Oh crap

there's no crime in skat. i have a few clients harshly judged over it by billers, but it ain't anyone's fucking business what turns someone on, as long as there's no victim. what business is it of a biller? people aren't accidentally subscribing to a skat site. they go there cuz they like it. bill the customer and shut the fuck up.

:2 cents:

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SpicyM 08-04-2022 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plsureking (Post 23029087)
there's no crime in skat

Depends on the country.

TaiGhost 08-04-2022 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plsureking (Post 23029087)
fuck pirates and sex crimes, but why you gotta throw skat in there? our boy CurrentlySober gonna be sad.

:Oh crap

there's no crime in skat. i have a few clients harshly judged over it by billers, but it ain't anyone's fucking business what turns someone on, as long as there's no victim. what business is it of a biller? people aren't accidentally subscribing to a skat site. they go there cuz they like it. bill the customer and shut the fuck up.

:2 cents:

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Scat is still big here within certain fetish scenes, true. But getting hard and harder to process for.

TaiGhost 08-04-2022 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpicyM (Post 23029097)
Depends on the country.

I think JP is one of the few countries where it can still be distributed within the country. I prefer lab scat to human produced scat.

The Porn Nerd 08-04-2022 09:13 AM

I liked Scatman Cruthers from The Shining. Does that count?

TheSenator 08-04-2022 10:29 AM

Will MINDGEEK be able to process payments for Traffic Junky, Brazzers, RK, MOFOS, etc.?

Visa and MasterCard suspended their merchant account indefinitely.

I hope they are able to take crypto for membership.

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/08/04/visa...ntroversy.html

TaiGhost 08-04-2022 02:30 PM

BTC and ETH are set to be a regulated commodity. So my guess is no?

SAMANTAmax 08-06-2022 05:15 AM

Banks are very restrictive as well


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