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pornguy 03-29-2024 02:21 PM

Just got an email from CCBill stating Visa fees are going up
 
Apparently the new fee will be 950$ a year?

We had like 1 CB this year on Visa and Zero on MC.

V_RocKs 03-29-2024 02:48 PM

Inflation?

pornguy 03-29-2024 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by V_RocKs (Post 23248935)
Inflation?

I was going to go with Stupidity. But ok we can call it that.

The Porn Nerd 03-29-2024 03:12 PM

Wow great CB rate! But sadly this is not tied to that but rather Visa & MC finding another arbitrary way to fuck us over.

We are a captive audience so we will pay, and pay, and pay...

pornguy 03-29-2024 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 23248941)
Wow great CB rate! But sadly this is not tied to that but rather Visa & MC finding another arbitrary way to fuck us over.

We are a captive audience so we will pay, and pay, and pay...

Oh I know what you mean. But honestly its getting to a point where its not worth it.

Huggles 03-29-2024 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornguy (Post 23248947)
Oh I know what you mean. But honestly its getting to a point where its not worth it.

Price of a .com keeps going up slowly. I give it like 2-3 years before a yearly .com renewal is $50.

pornguy 03-29-2024 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huggles (Post 23248948)
Price of a .com keeps going up slowly. I give it like 2-3 years before a yearly .com renewal is $50.

Its the over all costs and the battle against theft and for traffic that is dragging it down.
I would love to know how many people bail after this raise by Visa.

Huggles 03-29-2024 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by pornguy (Post 23248953)
I would love to know how many people bail after this raise by Visa.

Judging by how active GFY is, most of the homies already bounced!

Still, the big fish are probably still doing well and there are still some medium folk left swimming still? Personally I'm super unmotivated to work in adult at the moment with all of the blocking happening and the Canadian government talking about digital IDs.

pornguy 03-29-2024 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huggles (Post 23248992)
Judging by how active GFY is, most of the homies already bounced!

Still, the big fish are probably still doing well and there are still some medium folk left swimming still? Personally I'm super unmotivated to work in adult at the moment with all of the blocking happening and the Canadian government talking about digital IDs.

Canada has lost control on a lot lately and thats a bad idea. One more ID theft option, which of course will be blamed on adult sites.

pxi776 03-30-2024 09:42 AM

ccbill is overpriced. Their website is horrendous.

Use Bitcoin. A lot of webmasters have moved over to Bitcoin. It completely bypasses the banking system.

Visa will become a thing of the past eventually. Bitcoin is perfect for adult as you can receive money directly without a bank and can't reverse payments.

TheLegacy 03-30-2024 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huggles (Post 23248992)
Judging by how active GFY is, most of the homies already bounced!

Still, the big fish are probably still doing well and there are still some medium folk left swimming still? Personally I'm super unmotivated to work in adult at the moment with all of the blocking happening and the Canadian government talking about digital IDs.

Totally with you on that - we got another year before another election so hopefully this may not happen. Hell - they couldn't get any online system working when they launch it how do you suppose digital ID's will help? Canadians will learn fast how to circumvent this quickly and it will again be a waste of tax payers money.

sigurman 03-30-2024 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by pxi776 (Post 23249139)
ccbill is overpriced. Their website is horrendous.

Use Bitcoin. A lot of webmasters have moved over to Bitcoin. It completely bypasses the banking system.

Visa will become a thing of the past eventually. Bitcoin is perfect for adult as you can receive money directly without a bank and can't reverse payments.

which interface to use for accepting bitcoin, creating u/p, renewals, etc.?

Huggles 03-30-2024 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TheLegacy (Post 23249142)
Totally with you on that - we got another year before another election so hopefully this may not happen. Hell - they couldn't get any online system working when they launch it how do you suppose digital ID's will help? Canadians will learn fast how to circumvent this quickly and it will again be a waste of tax payers money.

Anything the Canadian government touches is covered in shit and 100 times overpriced.

This country is fucked.

Cobra69erss 04-04-2024 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huggles (Post 23249181)
Anything the Canadian government touches is covered in shit and 100 times overpriced.

This country is fucked.

Totally agree... the liberal party is the biggest threat to Canadians!!

Axeman 04-04-2024 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 23248941)
Wow great CB rate! But sadly this is not tied to that but rather Visa & MC finding another arbitrary way to fuck us over.

We are a captive audience so we will pay, and pay, and pay...

Yep. We are phasing out CCBill and just using our merchant accounts and Epoch/paypal for all new joins.

Retiree 04-04-2024 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Axeman (Post 23250799)
Yep. We are phasing out CCBill and just using our merchant accounts and Epoch/paypal for all new joins.

Glad to see Karups still alive and doing well after so many decades.

OneHungLo 04-04-2024 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornguy (Post 23248953)
I would love to know how many people bail after this raise by Visa.

I'm not trying to be a dick but It comes out to under $20 a week to process through Visa. If that $20 dollars a week will kill your business, do you really have a business or a hobby?

MakeMeGrrrrowl 04-04-2024 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornguy (Post 23248947)
Oh I know what you mean. But honestly its getting to a point where its not worth it.

If you process a few million a year, then what's 950 in fees?

I'd be more angry at the processing fees.

fuzebox 04-04-2024 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornguy (Post 23248953)
I would love to know how many people bail after this raise by Visa.

How many people bail... from running their adult paysites? :Oh crap

The Visa renewal fee is my smallest billing expense :2 cents:

The real news should be the increase of 0.10 per transaction and 10 basis points on volume.

And if CCBill is your primary biller, you've been getting fleeced for decades anyway :1orglaugh

candyflip 04-07-2024 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sigurman (Post 23249147)
which interface to use for accepting bitcoin, creating u/p, renewals, etc.?

https://btcpayserver.org/
https://en.cryptoprocessing.com/
https://www.boomfi.xyz/subscriptions
https://oxapay.com/plugins-list/paid-memberships-pro

The Porn Nerd 04-07-2024 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 23250831)
How many people bail... from running their adult paysites? :Oh crap

The Visa renewal fee is my smallest billing expense :2 cents:

The real news should be the increase of 0.10 per transaction and 10 basis points on volume.

And if CCBill is your primary biller, you've been getting fleeced for decades anyway :1orglaugh

At this point Visa should be sending me flowers and using some lube before violating my anal boundaries in this way. At least call me pretty.

But(t), as you say, the cost of doing biznizz...:(

pxi776 04-07-2024 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sigurman (Post 23249147)
which interface to use for accepting bitcoin, creating u/p, renewals, etc.?

BTCpay server software. You would have to get your server administrator to set it up. Or you can find an instance online.
Bitcoin doesn't allow renewals yet so you might have issues with that.

https://mainnet.demo.btcpayserver.org/

pornguy 04-09-2024 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MakeMeGrrrrowl (Post 23250815)
If you process a few million a year, then what's 950 in fees?

I'd be more angry at the processing fees.

Yep. its the cost of doing business. But its also a scam on the part of Visa and MC. they make us pay it because we are " High Risk ". But I also have mainstream sales and get CBs on those. On my adult sites I get next to nothing in the CB's.

Just pisses me off we get lumped into the " High Risk "


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