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dyna mo 05-25-2025 10:52 AM

What are current strategies for strength training and muscle growth?
 
sets? reps? train to failure? bro split? stretch mediated hypertrohy? rest? etc.

seems like a lot of new research is out.

Huggles 05-25-2025 11:02 AM

Pick thing up, lift thing, put thing down.

Do until tired?

TheLegacy 05-25-2025 11:04 AM

at my age not a great deal outside of playing with my kids and lifting them up and doing household maintenance. I'm more focused on keeping healthy for my remaining years and I don't think muscle growth has anything much to do with that

VikingMan 05-25-2025 11:14 AM

Take at least 2 long baths each week with 3 cups epson salt. 1 cup borax, and one cup baking soda. You detox and soak up magnesium and boron. Get ready for morning boners. Take a zinc supplement. I eat two chewable wafers of zinc+ vitamin c from Trace Minerals brand. Again, you will pop boners in the morning.

I’m bed no later than 9:30 and wake up no later than 6 am. Get outside in the morning before you do anything else.

Cut out all enriched wheat flour. Organic and sprouted wheat only.

Find a supplier of fresh organs. Eat a half a beef heart each week. No need for supplements on weeks you do this.

Drink spring water.

GOAT milk from a local farm. Visit the farm and pet the baby goats. Throw some cash around to the farm workers. Life is good.

777 05-25-2025 12:41 PM

Do morning runs and watch your diet.

Retiree 05-26-2025 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by TheLegacy (Post 23372687)
at my age not a great deal outside of playing with my kids and lifting them up and doing household maintenance. I'm more focused on keeping healthy for my remaining years and I don't think muscle growth has anything much to do with that

Muscles has to do with everything...without muscle you wouldn't be able to move, so muscles definitely help with longetivity, up to a certain point, of course and not getting them with the help of hormones or drugs. If you have any kind of pain in the older years, its because of lack of resistance training and a healthy way of life in general(food, sleep, etc).

And as far as training strategies...the same things that worked 50 years ago, still work today. Just most people today take some kind of drugs(hormones, test, etc), even teenagers, but you won't see those in the gym in their 30s or 40s anymore.

mopek1 05-26-2025 03:59 AM

After decades of interest in the game, I am more confused than ever.

Do stuff you like in terms of exercises (high reps, low reps, power , calisthenics etc...), make sure it's fun, and that you put in effort w/o overdoing it.

Retiree 05-26-2025 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by mopek1 (Post 23372814)
After decades of interest in the game, I am more confused than ever.

Do stuff you like in terms of exercises (high reps, low reps, power , calisthenics etc...), make sure it's fun, and that you put in effort w/o overdoing it.

Its really easy, do 8-12 reps for muscle growth or 1-4 reps for strength. I combine the best of both worlds by doing a pyramid, which is proven long term...starting with 10-12 reps, going down to 1 rep in the 4th or 5th set. It prioritizes strength, which is more important, anyway. Bloated big muscles are useless, if we think longetivity and comfort in life.

The Porn Nerd 05-26-2025 11:12 AM

I thought jerking off three times a week was all you needed to add years to your life.

Fap fap fap boom!

BluMedia 05-26-2025 12:49 PM

If you are serious get a trainer. I have been working out for over 35 years. Even though I know what I am doing I fall into incorrect form and bad habits really easily. Get a trainer and they will help you achieve your goals.

kuprum 05-26-2025 12:55 PM

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Retiree 05-26-2025 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 23372873)
I thought jerking off three times a week was all you needed to add years to your life.

Fap fap fap boom!

Three times a week? You mean per day, I hope. :pimp

Major (Tom) 05-26-2025 02:51 PM

Volumetrics, rest, protein.

mechanicvirus 05-26-2025 04:53 PM

Olympic weightlifting. Quite literally used in every sport known to man, even cross fit ripped it off.

Go ahead look it up.

CaptainHowdy 05-26-2025 05:23 PM

I don't get why would anyone want to lift anything for free nowadays . . .

pornmasta 05-26-2025 08:01 PM

Train the walk on points, and train your splits.
Do some "entrechat", muscles are useless without flexibility 🙄

Retiree 05-27-2025 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 23372931)
I don't get why would anyone want to lift anything for free nowadays . . .

Its actually making you a ton of money. Its way cheaper than hospitals bills later in life, for people who don't move their ass.

JesseQuinn 05-27-2025 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mopek1 (Post 23372814)
Do stuff you like in terms of exercises (high reps, low reps, power , calisthenics etc...), make sure it's fun, and that you put in effort w/o overdoing it.

this


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Originally Posted by pornmasta (Post 23372947)
muscles are useless without flexibility

also this. esp for you OP, recovering from your injury. flexibility makes you 'feel' more fit and makes other types of exercise more enjoyable

side benefit stretching can be really calming yet energizing


glad you're at the point of recovering Dyna, you gotta get strong again so I can take you dancing when you restart your sailing adventures :winkwink:

Major (Tom) 05-28-2025 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 23372684)
sets? reps? train to failure? bro split? stretch mediated hypertrohy? rest? etc.

seems like a lot of new research is out.

Dyna Mo has fascist vibes.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ine-gym-groups

https://i.imgur.com/im0eEJr.jpeg

CaptainHowdy 06-02-2025 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Retiree (Post 23372981)
Its actually making you a ton of money. Its way cheaper than hospitals bills later in life, for people who don't move their ass.

Decadence is unavoidable . . .

2MuchMark 06-02-2025 07:36 AM

No muscle training for me, just cardio. I run, Bike and Swim almost every day. Light breakfast, salad for lunch, whatever for dinner.

kmanrox 06-04-2025 02:43 AM

TRT, GH
3x mid level 1hr gym sessions
3x 90 minute padel
Mounjaro

eat want, anything you like, as much as you like, bodyfat % goes way down, muscle mass goes higher.

Feel like you're 27 when you're 50

you're welcome

Retiree 06-04-2025 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 23374289)
No muscle training for me, just cardio. I run, Bike and Swim almost every day. Light breakfast, salad for lunch, whatever for dinner.

We could tell. :)

Retiree 06-04-2025 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by kmanrox (Post 23374751)
TRT, GH

TRT is fine for old people with close to zero their own tst, but for everyone else it can mess things up, you start and can't stop, ever. Once you stop, natural production of tst is basically zero, body can't recover from it. Better to start when natural levels go really low, well into 60s or even later in life.

GH is just asking for trouble and even looks horrible with those inflated bellies.

Matyko 06-04-2025 04:53 AM

I do 3 group TRX trainings a week, and combine it with counting of caliries and protein, AND intermittent fasting (16:8, 5-6 days a week (when I am not fasting I still count the calories and protein intake)).This, at the age of almost 46 is perfectly fine for me.

2MuchMark 06-04-2025 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Retiree (Post 23374765)
We could tell. :)

Thankyou! I may be lean, but I carry the weight of critical thinking. It turns out that skipping a few reps at the gym gave me time to max out my cognitive gains. The brain's a muscle too, just harder to flex on GFY. :)

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Originally Posted by kuprum (Post 23372893)

That works for me!

dyna mo 07-02-2025 07:09 AM

thxx for the feedback everyone. i've gotten into a 2x a week resistance training. ~15 sets per body part per week and going to failure + 1/2 reps for max growth. i use both low and high reps per session. weight is weight imo.


resistance training is as important as cardio, maybe even more so.

but re: cardio i'm doing low intensity interval training- LIIT
japanese walking, alternating between three minutes of brisk walking and three minutes of slower walking for a total of 30 minutes.

but i only do cardio a couple times a week right now, my goal is adding muscle mass. So i don't want to use up calories doing cardio yet. no trt for me either, i don't want to get trt gut, see joe rogan. so all diet. But i have to keep my protein intake at 100g per day max.

i'm giving myself 1 year to add muscle before i pivot to a cutting phase and do more LIIT training, prolly 2x a day 6 days a week and cut the calories.

CourtneyR 07-02-2025 08:25 AM

Diving and cardio a few times a week

Retiree 07-02-2025 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 23382047)
thxx for the feedback everyone. i've gotten into a 2x a week resistance training. ~15 sets per body part per week and going to failure + 1/2 reps for max growth. i use both low and high reps per session. weight is weight imo.


resistance training is as important as cardio, maybe even more so.

but re: cardio i'm doing low intensity interval training- LIIT
japanese walking, alternating between three minutes of brisk walking and three minutes of slower walking for a total of 30 minutes.

but i only do cardio a couple times a week right now, my goal is adding muscle mass. So i don't want to use up calories doing cardio yet. no trt for me either, i don't want to get trt gut, see joe rogan. so all diet. But i have to keep my protein intake at 100g per day max.

i'm giving myself 1 year to add muscle before i pivot to a cutting phase and do more LIIT training, prolly 2x a day 6 days a week and cut the calories.

All is fine, but you will need more protein. I eat around 200g per day...and only weight around 90kg. 100g won't bring you far, you need that much just for basic body needs, without any workout.

dyna mo 07-02-2025 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Retiree (Post 23382118)
All is fine, but you will need more protein. I eat around 200g per day...and only weight around 90kg. 100g won't bring you far, you need that much just for basic body needs, without any workout.

there's some new research that shows 1.6g protein per kg bodyweight should be enough to gain muscle. it's the minimum for my body weight (155 pounds) my doctor has restricted me to <100g/day due to kidney issues.

Retiree 07-02-2025 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 23382128)
there's some new research that shows 1.6g protein per kg bodyweight should be enough to gain muscle. it's the minimum for my body weight (155 pounds) my doctor has restricted me to <100g/day due to kidney issues.

I have seen studies talking about 3-4g per lbs, but 2g per lbs is something that has been established long term, over many decades.

But if you have health issues, thats another story. I would still consider talking to a nutrition expert/doctor, because regular doctors don't know much about this stuff, just the general stuff what they learned in school, but they barely follow any new studies.

dyna mo 07-02-2025 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by JesseQuinn (Post 23373088)
this




also this. esp for you OP, recovering from your injury. flexibility makes you 'feel' more fit and makes other types of exercise more enjoyable

side benefit stretching can be really calming yet energizing


glad you're at the point of recovering Dyna, you gotta get strong again so I can take you dancing when you restart your sailing adventures :winkwink:

i'm stretching after workouts and emphasing the stretch part of reps. apparently it's also very good for muscle growth. maybe more important than contractions.

sounds good!:thumbsup

dyna mo 07-02-2025 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Retiree (Post 23382131)
I have seen studies talking about 3-4g per lbs, but 2g per lbs is something that has been established long term, over many decades.

But if you have health issues, thats another story. I would still consider talking to a nutrition expert/doctor, because regular doctors don't know much about this stuff, just the general stuff what they learned in school, but they barely follow any new studies.

my nephrologist set the protein max. i can't risk kidney damage. i'll have to be OK with whatever gains i can get with 100g protein/day.

dyna mo 07-02-2025 01:40 PM

interesting.


Retiree 07-02-2025 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 23382137)
my nephrologist set the protein max. i can't risk kidney damage. i'll have to be OK with whatever gains i can get with 100g protein/day.

You can surely make gains with that, if you are around 70kg, the only negative is that the gains will stop at a certain level, but if you are happy at that level, its all that matters anyway. Its definitely possible to gain 5-10kg of lean muscle mass with 1.5g/kg, which is good enough. At least you can focus more on being low fat/ripped.

Retiree 07-02-2025 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 23382139)
interesting.


This guy is a steroid junkie looking for views. He contradicts himself so often, its not even funny anymore. :winkwink:

dyna mo 07-02-2025 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retiree (Post 23382147)
You can surely make gains with that, if you are around 70kg, the only negative is that the gains will stop at a certain level, but if you are happy at that level, its all that matters anyway. Its definitely possible to gain 5-10kg of lean muscle mass with 1.5g/kg, which is good enough. At least you can focus more on being low fat/ripped.

this is pretty much what my goal is. add ~15 pounds of muscle over the next 12 months. that's a lot really. imo. if it's 10, that's cool.

dyna mo 07-02-2025 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Retiree (Post 23382149)
This guy is a steroid junkie looking for views. He contradicts himself so often, its not even funny anymore. :winkwink:

so was Arnold eh. :winkwink: doesn't mean it's all wrong. he gives natty advise also.


house of hypertrophy relies strictly on studies, comes to same conclusion on protein.



Retiree 07-02-2025 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 23382151)
this is pretty much what my goal is. add ~15 pounds of muscle over the next 12 months. that's a lot really. imo. if it's 10, that's cool.

If you are just starting out, its doable. If you are already training for a few years...it would take longer probably.

dyna mo 07-02-2025 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Retiree (Post 23382154)
If you are just starting out, its doable. If you are already training for a few years...it would take longer probably.

i'm kinda just starting out. i had an leg injury that immobilized me for quite a while and i lost a lot of muscle, like all of it. so i'm kinda thinking i'm starting all over. muscle memory might help me gain back some.

Retiree 07-02-2025 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 23382157)
i'm kinda just starting out. i had an leg injury that immobilized me for quite a while and i lost a lot of muscle, like all of it. so i'm kinda thinking i'm starting all over. muscle memory might help me gain back some.

Well, then its going to be easy. Muscle memory is a great thing...you can get your muscle back quick even after 10 years of doing nothing. Its 10x easier than building new muscle.

dyna mo 07-02-2025 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Retiree (Post 23382162)
Well, then its going to be easy. Muscle memory is a great thing...you can get your muscle back quick even after 10 years of doing nothing. Its 10x easier than building new muscle.

nice.

i'll update progress in 6 months. :)

Retiree 07-03-2025 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 23382172)
nice.

i'll update progress in 6 months. :)

Yeah, definitely post an update. :thumbsup

Major (Tom) 07-08-2025 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 23382172)
nice.

i'll update progress in 6 months. :)

You’ll have that sphincter puckering in no time

CaptainHowdy 07-10-2025 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Major (Tom) (Post 23383427)
You’ll have that sphincter puckering in no time

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh ??

Major (Tom) 07-10-2025 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 23383871)
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh ??

No pain, no gain!

dyna mo 07-10-2025 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Major (Tom) (Post 23383427)
You’ll have that sphincter puckering in no time

things a prepubescent in the closet homosexual would say.


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