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rowan 03-16-2008 08:21 PM

teendolls payments SUPER late?
 
I received a payment today which appears to cover the last 3 payments. I checked teendolls.com and according to payments.php the oldest of the 3 was supposedly sent on 19th April 2007.

I cannot find any record of the 3 "payments" in my epassporte account so the latest one does not appear to be a duplicate payment made in error.

Why are teendolls taking 11 months to send my $$$?

AdPatron 03-16-2008 08:35 PM

hmmmmmm Good question!

papill0n 03-16-2008 09:28 PM

Someone mentioned this to me earlier today. They claim to have sent no traffic for months, have no rebills and were still paid. The amount seemed to be a duplicate of their last payout.

Wonder whats going on.....

Iron Fist 03-16-2008 09:29 PM

Could be that NATS v4 they are beta testing. :)


Just sayin..

TMM_John 03-16-2008 09:38 PM

No. Some epass payments were delayed. (No one's fault but my own). Should not have been as far back as April tho and not related to the v4 testing. No affiliate traffic is going thru v4 yet. If anyone has any questions about payments please feel free to contact me or Rui directly.

rowan 03-16-2008 10:02 PM

No, let's not sidestep this, I'd rather the reasons be explained here, I've heard from 3 other webmasters now that this late payment problem seems to be typical, not a once-off glitch. Why can't teendolls pay on time?

TMM_John 03-16-2008 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowan (Post 13928996)
No, let's not sidestep this, I'd rather the reasons be explained here, I've heard from 3 other webmasters now that this late payment problem seems to be typical, not a once-off glitch. Why can't teendolls pay on time?

As I've said it's my fault. I've allowed myself to go in too many directions and TD has suffered as a result of it. Very simple answer. My fault.

Christina Muller 03-16-2008 10:21 PM

PBucksJohn "As I've said it's my fault. I've allowed myself to go in too many directions and TD has suffered as a result of it. Very simple answer. My fault "


Well I think thats the most honest straightforward answer someone could make :thumbsup Hope it all works out PBJ

rowan 03-16-2008 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PBucksJohn (Post 13929024)
As I've said it's my fault. I've allowed myself to go in too many directions and TD has suffered as a result of it. Very simple answer. My fault.

And...? What happens now?

I'm not sure why you would think that affiliates would want to promote your sites when they know you won't pay on time. I'm pulling all my links as of now.

TMM_John 03-16-2008 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowan (Post 13929034)
And...? What happens now?

I'm not sure why you would think that affiliates would want to promote your sites when they know you won't pay on time. I'm pulling all my links as of now.

Of course, I fully understand that.

rowan 03-16-2008 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PBucksJohn (Post 13929038)
Of course, I fully understand that.

Wow, why do you even bother to be associated with this program? Sell it to someone who will look after it, and pay affiliates on time.

You don't seem bothered that I'm dropping my links - that's fine - but you neatly avoided the question about what happens going forward. That sends a pretty bad message to your affiliates.

I get the feeling this is a bit of a toy program, a testbed for NATS and keeping up with the paysite industry (as you would be expected if you were supporting it through software). The stats have said "* = Rebill & Credit counts will be shown soon. Your payout currently reflects all rebills & credits." for the 2 1/2 years I've been an affiliate. I guess you don't care.

I don't even know why I'm bothering to get worked up about this... but your flippant response has pissed me right off. :321GFY

TMM_John 03-16-2008 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowan (Post 13929078)
Wow, why do you even bother to be associated with this program? Sell it to someone who will look after it, and pay affiliates on time.

You don't seem bothered that I'm dropping my links - that's fine - but you neatly avoided the question about what happens going forward. That sends a pretty bad message to your affiliates.

I get the feeling this is a bit of a toy program, a testbed for NATS and keeping up with the paysite industry (as you would be expected if you were supporting it through software). The stats have said "* = Rebill & Credit counts will be shown soon. Your payout currently reflects all rebills & credits." for the 2 1/2 years I've been an affiliate. I guess you don't care.

I don't even know why I'm bothering to get worked up about this... but your flippant response has pissed me right off. :321GFY

My saying its no ones fault but my own is a flippant response?

Payments will be normal going forward.

As I've said, I've got a lot going on and TeenDolls wound up being what took the brunt of my having too much on my plate. I'm sorry for that.

You are correct in that Teen Dolls exists in part to be a test bed for NATS. Its being small and not generating much of my income is probably part of the reason why it has suffered. Thats no excuse for it, just trying to be honest about it.

Of course I don't like that you're dropping your links. However, you have a right to be angry about it and I was simply saying I understand the reaction.

I don't know what else to tell you.

Vox 03-16-2008 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PBucksJohn (Post 13928957)
No. Some epass payments were delayed. (No one's fault but my own). Should not have been as far back as April tho and not related to the v4 testing. No affiliate traffic is going thru v4 yet. If anyone has any questions about payments please feel free to contact me or Rui directly.

Oh really? I've sent emails to Rui and I even cc'd one to you, but yet have not received any response about payments.

You still haven't paid for 2006/2007

TMM_John 03-16-2008 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vox (Post 13929232)
Oh really? I've sent emails to Rui and I even cc'd one to you, but yet have not received any response about payments.

You still haven't paid for 2006/2007

There are still accounts being caught up as I am limited by epass's daily limits.

I don't see any way a payment can be due from 2006 unless you have recently hit the minimum. I'm not aware of anyone Rui knows of who has emailed him. I ICQ'd you just now but didn't get a reply back and I can not find any accounts in the system with your ICQ number. Please ICQ me back at 5596373.

Vox 03-17-2008 12:26 AM

Alright, my bad for the 2006 comments... I should of opened my books and seen that payments were received in a timely manner.

John is taking care of the rest for me this week.

A little icq conversation goes a long way.

Thanks John.

Caffiend 05-26-2008 10:27 PM

Are TD payouts going out late again? I can't get a response to any of the emails I've sent, so does anyone on the board have info or experiences to share?

TMM_John 05-26-2008 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caffiend (Post 14239868)
Are TD payouts going out late again? I can't get a response to any of the emails I've sent, so does anyone on the board have info or experiences to share?

E-Mail me any questions at [email protected] please, or icq 5596373, the TD email is not the best contact. Thanks.

rowan 05-27-2008 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caffiend (Post 14239868)
Are TD payouts going out late again? I can't get a response to any of the emails I've sent, so does anyone on the board have info or experiences to share?

I emailed Rui before I started this thread, sent 2 reminders, still waiting for a reply.

I don't know if there's a technical problem or he's just ignoring them for some reason. I've never had a reply to any email I've sent to teendolls support, apart from PBucksJohn when I started "pre-emptive hunting" and sent copies to root@ webmaster@ etc

Rui 05-27-2008 04:10 AM

Like John said mail WASN'T the best way to approach us, nevertheless my ICQ number is listed all over the place, a message would have helped me sort any problems you had/have.

Just for future reference - 85-483-060

Regards

Edit - A no, nobody was ignoring you, why should we do that?

SlamDesigns 05-29-2008 09:31 AM

Hey John and Rui...just wanted to give you a heads up that I just sent an e-mail to both of you also. Please be on the look out for one from "slamdesigns.com". Thanks!

SlamDesigns 05-30-2008 08:34 AM

Hey Rui,

Just sent a follow up to the first e-mail. Just wanted to let you know so you could be on the look-out for it as well. Thanks!

rowan 05-31-2008 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rui (Post 14240979)
Like John said mail WASN'T the best way to approach us, nevertheless my ICQ number is listed all over the place, a message would have helped me sort any problems you had/have.

I don't understand why you have email contact addresses listed for support if they don't work.

Rui 05-31-2008 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlamDesigns (Post 14255869)
Hey Rui,

Just sent a follow up to the first e-mail. Just wanted to let you know so you could be on the look-out for it as well. Thanks!

It has been sorted yesterday mate, check your paypal :winkwink:

digifan 05-31-2008 01:53 PM

Paypal? You said paypal? Interesting.

commonsense 05-31-2008 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by digifan (Post 14261195)
Paypal? You said paypal? Interesting.

Plenty of people still use paypal for a number of things, and no mention as to whether it was adult orientated or not. Reaching for drama eh?

potter 05-31-2008 06:43 PM

things that make you go hmmm

AlexGree 07-07-2008 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PBucksJohn (Post 13929103)
Payments will be normal going forward.

My affiliate id in teendolls is "simplebmg"
I didn't get any payout from you since February.
But now I see a payout in my payment history in affiliate area. But I can't find this one in my epassporte statement.

I can't get a response to any of the emails and icq messages I've sent. Can you provide the detailed information about this payout (amount, date and epassporte account you paid from)

if you paid...

TMM_John 07-07-2008 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexGree (Post 14430296)
My affiliate id in teendolls is "simplebmg"
I didn't get any payout from you since February.
But now I see a payout in my payment history in affiliate area. But I can't find this one in my epassporte statement.

I can't get a response to any of the emails and icq messages I've sent. Can you provide the detailed information about this payout (amount, date and epassporte account you paid from)

if you paid...

Please ICQ me, 5596373, I'm not sure who you ICQ'd but I reply to them all. Also, the program is hopefully going to change hands within the next few weeks or so as I obviously don't have the time to run it properly :(

AlexGree 07-10-2008 07:12 PM

I sent few messages to you via ICQ, but don't get a response. Rui has been contacted with me after my previous post here. He promised sent the payout today.

Two days left...

and i still waiting...

cybermike 07-10-2008 08:20 PM

so whos taking over the site?

AlexGree 07-10-2008 11:50 PM

I hope John will not forget about debts after teendolls changed hands...:)
but now situation is not seems good for me...

all pending payments in my payment history in affiliate area was updated to "paid", but nothing was paid actually... the promises only :(

Caffiend 07-12-2008 12:28 AM

AlexGree, the same thing happened to me. Payments changed to 'paid', but no money received. No luck chasing anyone down on ICQ, either. Do only the big fish get dealt with now?

Bravo 08-26-2008 08:11 AM

hey John! teendolls owe me money for 3 or 4 accounts
please read your email

thanks!

HorseShit 08-26-2008 08:18 AM

another one bites the dust

jscott 08-26-2008 08:22 AM

Anything the affiliates should know? or is everything going to be smooth sailing from here on out?

rowan 09-06-2008 12:33 AM

Searched for this thread to clarify something and was concerned to see there's been further payment probs. :( Bump for answers

Manowar 10-12-2008 08:22 AM

I've noted this problem now., anyone got contact info for Rui?

Manowar 10-12-2008 08:43 AM

Edit: Found them up the thread a bit, hope I can get this sorted ASAP

TMM_John 10-12-2008 08:45 AM

E-mail me directly at albright\toomuchmedia\com

Thanks.

rowan 10-12-2008 09:00 AM

I'm showing an entry for 2008-09-16 saying "pending" and "not yet paid." It's above the minimum, yet it's now nearly a month later. This is really shabby.

Bravo 11-23-2008 02:16 AM

hey Jon, stop this bulshit! i have 20 emails from you with questions and promises to pay and still no payments

this is 100% bulshit for affiliate program!!!!!!!!!! not professional and not serious ;(

Chef86 11-23-2008 05:56 AM

John why not hire a couple extra people rather than sell off the program. You obviously have enough affiliates to earn a decent incom just maybe not enough man power to run the program with just two people. A lot of other programs around the same size as you usually have 2-3 affiliate managers, the owner and an accountant. Note: I did not say ALL programs I said " a lot " meaning not all but many for anyone that decides to say a smart ass response lol.

HorseShit 11-23-2008 06:51 AM

get your money from them and say fuck it at this point

rowan 11-23-2008 10:46 PM

So what does this mean exactly?


Outstanding
Not Yet Stored
Not Yet Paid
$25.44
Not Yet Set
List Payments

Pending
2008-09-16
Not Yet Paid
$100.76
ePassporte
List Payments

From what I can see the $100.76 payment is more than 2 months overdue. There have been some rebills since (I pulled all my links months ago) but they're not paid for either. WTF is going on?

Bravo 11-24-2008 01:58 PM

grrrrr.....

TMM_John 11-24-2008 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alextm (Post 15099220)
grrrrr.....

Alex, I know its been a while, but I haven't received a reply to my last few emails. You can reach me on icq, 5596373, or phone, 732-385-1536 x1111.

Thanks

TMM_John 11-24-2008 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chef86 (Post 15094738)
John why not hire a couple extra people rather than sell off the program. You obviously have enough affiliates to earn a decent incom just maybe not enough man power to run the program with just two people. A lot of other programs around the same size as you usually have 2-3 affiliate managers, the owner and an accountant. Note: I did not say ALL programs I said " a lot " meaning not all but many for anyone that decides to say a smart ass response lol.

I would agree, but the program is very very small. For some reason people think its bigger.

rowan 11-25-2008 05:08 AM

So John, I say John, John (imagine Matrix in Commando taunting Arnie)

When are you going to address the non payment issues?

HorseShit 11-25-2008 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PBucksJohn (Post 15099239)
I would agree, but the program is very very small. For some reason people think its bigger.

How about you sell me the complete program?

Caffiend 11-29-2008 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowan (Post 15097009)
So what does this mean exactly?


Outstanding
Not Yet Stored
Not Yet Paid
$25.44
Not Yet Set
List Payments

Pending
2008-09-16
Not Yet Paid
$100.76
ePassporte
List Payments

From what I can see the $100.76 payment is more than 2 months overdue. There have been some rebills since (I pulled all my links months ago) but they're not paid for either. WTF is going on?

Similar problem on my end - a payment that claims it was sent but never showed up in my ePassporte account. Its been months, so I doubt it'll ever get resolved for me.


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