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Boobzooka 07-06-2008 11:51 AM

Paysite owner opens the books (ratios)
 
While everyone is bitching about ratios today, I thought it would be a good time to show again how my sites are doing. I don't run a big flashy program, but we have grown dramatically since the last time I did this. So here it is, all affiliate sales, unadulterated, the good, the bad, and the ugly.

For those unfamiliar with CCBill stats, these are raw first-page clicks.

http://www.daringpress.com/newstats.jpg

Stats shown are current for the past X weeks. Little fish (<20 sales) were cut off.
These sales are for both my sites, but most were to www.SellYourSexTape.com

Shap 07-06-2008 12:07 PM

Congrats. Great numbers.

Is that for darering or sellyoursextape or both?

payd2purv 07-06-2008 12:12 PM

When you own GREAT paysites and not link farms you definitely have an advantage...

commonsense 07-06-2008 12:14 PM

Showing stats won't get you more affiliates or sales, only copycats :2 cents:

silver 07-06-2008 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by commonsense (Post 14427717)
Showing stats won't get you more affiliates or sales, only copycats :2 cents:

+1

Ditto

fuzebox 07-06-2008 12:17 PM

Are some of those affiliates linking to FHG's through the affiliate link? Some of the traffic numbers + ratios are pretty high...

As for me I'm 1:644 with one sale for sellyoursextape :1orglaugh

john_63 07-06-2008 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DareRing (Post 14427626)
While everyone is bitching about ratios today, I thought it would be a good time to show again how my sites are doing. I don't run a big flashy program, but we have grown dramatically since the last time I did this. So here it is, all affiliate sales, unadulterated, the good, the bad, and the ugly.

For those unfamiliar with CCBill stats, these are raw first-page clicks.

http://www.daringpress.com/newstats.jpg

Stats shown are current for the past X weeks. Little fish (<20 sales) were cut off.
These sales are for both my sites, but most were to www.SellYourSexTape.com

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 14427688)
Congrats. Great numbers.

Is that for darering or sellyoursextape or both?

http://www.northernsun.com/images/thumb/5090.jpg

Bossman 07-06-2008 12:19 PM

I acutal tried non-recurring on one of our sites after reading one of your post/threads about how well you did with it... didnīt work well for us, but it was interesting to try :thumbsup

Congrats on your sites - while many people treat this business as a cookiecutter business, then it can pay to be different :)

Robbie 07-06-2008 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by payd2purv (Post 14427716)
When you own GREAT paysites and not link farms you definitely have an advantage...

Link farms? How do link farms have anything to do with how well a paysite is doing? Either you are confusing the terminology that you have learned surfing GFY or you are going off in another direction than what the poster is trying to say.
Does anybody know how to get invited to the secret section where it's just guys that own sites?

marketsmart 07-06-2008 12:21 PM

i would venture to say that your stats are better thasn most these days because you really have a nice niche... but, like was said earlier, why post stats.. you want 20 copycat sites up by tomorrow...

stickyfingerz 07-06-2008 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 14427732)
Link farms? How do link farms have anything to do with how well a paysite is doing? Either you are confusing the terminology that you have learned surfing GFY or you are going off in another direction than what the poster is trying to say.
Does anybody know how to get invited to the secret section where it's just guys that own sites?

Its hidden between Claudia's boobs I think hehe. :winkwink:

d-null 07-06-2008 12:28 PM

nice stats and best of luck with your program :thumbsup

payd2purv 07-06-2008 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 14427732)
Link farms? How do link farms have anything to do with how well a paysite is doing? Either you are confusing the terminology that you have learned surfing GFY or you are going off in another direction than what the poster is trying to say.
Does anybody know how to get invited to the secret section where it's just guys that own sites?

Sorry I read the post wrong.

I thought that was sales he was making from his members area traffic..

V_RocKs 07-06-2008 12:35 PM

I smoke crack rocks.

notoldschool 07-06-2008 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 14427732)
Link farms? How do link farms have anything to do with how well a paysite is doing? Either you are confusing the terminology that you have learned surfing GFY or you are going off in another direction than what the poster is trying to say.
Does anybody know how to get invited to the secret section where it's just guys that own sites?

There are paysites that are link farms. You sign up and they have links to everywhere but good content. He could also be talking about paysites that are just a collection of feed links.

john_63 07-06-2008 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by payd2purv (Post 14427756)
Sorry I read the post wrong.

I thought that was sales he was making from his member's area traffic..

5000+ sales from his members area traffic? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

notoldschool 07-06-2008 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by payd2purv (Post 14427756)
Sorry I read the post wrong.

I thought that was sales he was making from his members area traffic..

I guess I was wrong then.

Dirty F 07-06-2008 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 14427732)
Link farms? How do link farms have anything to do with how well a paysite is doing? Either you are confusing the terminology that you have learned surfing GFY or you are going off in another direction than what the poster is trying to say.
Does anybody know how to get invited to the secret section where it's just guys that own sites?

Ignore him. Hes in every fucking thread throwing in his 2 cents acting as if he knows how everything works.

payd2purv 07-06-2008 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by john_63 (Post 14427767)
5000+ sales from his members area traffic? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

:1orglaugh Yahhh that's not very likely...

Quote:

Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 14427768)
I guess I was wrong then.

Well that's what I thought the O.P was talking about because it's webmasters that own shitty linkfarms and blogs that are complaining about lack of sales..

Boobzooka 07-06-2008 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 14427736)
i would venture to say that your stats are better thasn most these days because you really have a nice niche... but, like was said earlier, why post stats.. you want 20 copycat sites up by tomorrow...

Yeah :1orglaugh good luck with that. I wouldn't mind some matching sites to upsell to...

btw - I'm still paying $1000 per couple referral bonus. I need more submissions!

payd2purv 07-06-2008 12:45 PM

MarketSmart has a point. :) Quality amateur style content...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 14427775)
Ignore him. Hes in every fucking thread throwing in his 2 cents acting as if he knows how everything works.

I do know how everything works. You see all this? YOU SEE ALL THIS?!!?

THATS ALL ME BABY!!

MONEY BABY MONEY!!

:1orglaugh

tiger 07-06-2008 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by commonsense (Post 14427717)
Showing stats won't get you more affiliates or sales, only copycats :2 cents:

That's funny, I'm signing up as we speak.

Pornopat 07-06-2008 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DareRing (Post 14427626)
While everyone is bitching about ratios today, I thought it would be a good time to show again how my sites are doing. I don't run a big flashy program, but we have grown dramatically since the last time I did this. So here it is, all affiliate sales, unadulterated, the good, the bad, and the ugly.

For those unfamiliar with CCBill stats, these are raw first-page clicks.

http://www.daringpress.com/newstats.jpg

Stats shown are current for the past X weeks. Little fish (<20 sales) were cut off.
These sales are for both my sites, but most were to www.SellYourSexTape.com

I think there is an error somewhere in there cause I dont see myself back in those stats.
What is the exact timeframe?
1440891 should be in there. My ratios is less better as the others in the stats. I am not complaining though.
Total amount of sales 637 with a ratio of 1:440
Last two weeks : 23 sales with a ratio of 1:509

Looks weird to me...still...I am not complaining!
:winkwink:

Jim_Gunn 07-06-2008 05:06 PM

What time period do each of those horizontal rows represent? A new day, a new week or a new month or what?

AaronM 07-06-2008 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DareRing (Post 14427778)
Yeah :1orglaugh good luck with that. I wouldn't mind some matching sites to upsell to...


So you don't mind competition but on the multiple times that I have tried to contact you for model trades, to help you where your 2257 was not legit, and to send you traffic...You ignored me each and every time.

Interesting.....

Boobzooka 07-06-2008 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 14428377)
So you don't mind competition but on the multiple times that I have tried to contact you for model trades, to help you where your 2257 was not legit, and to send you traffic...You ignored me each and every time.

Interesting.....

I'm sorry, but I have not seen any of this stuff, and I'm at my computer all day long answering emails, so I'm at a loss to explain why yours alone would not be reaching me. Please try to hit both [email protected] and [email protected] and we'll see what happens. If you don't hear back from me, come back to this thread. Thanks.

AaronM 07-06-2008 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DareRing (Post 14428424)
I'm sorry, but I have not seen any of this stuff, and I'm at my computer all day long answering emails, so I'm at a loss to explain why yours alone would not be reaching me. Please try to hit both [email protected] and [email protected] and we'll see what happens. If you don't hear back from me, come back to this thread. Thanks.


Well, I can't speak for the emails but at least 2 of the times were here on GFY.

And how is it you know that my messages alone are not reaching you? If you're not getting them, you would not know it therefore it kinda seems a bit assumptive to state that only mine are not being received.

Boobzooka 07-06-2008 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pornopat (Post 14428343)
I think there is an error somewhere in there cause I dont see myself back in those stats.
What is the exact timeframe?
1440891 should be in there. My ratios is less better as the others in the stats. I am not complaining though.
Total amount of sales 637 with a ratio of 1:440
Last two weeks : 23 sales with a ratio of 1:509

Looks weird to me...still...I am not complaining!
:winkwink:

I picked a random (recent) time frame and cut out affiliate ID#s for privacy.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn (Post 14428356)
What time period do each of those horizontal rows represent? A new day, a new week or a new month or what?

I didn't give the exact time frame because that would be revealing too much info about a private business on a public message board. I'm a paysite owner showing affiliates what they could expect if they were promoting my sites, not bragging about my personal income. :winkwink:

But I'm glad I'm getting such a positive response to the overall ratios. I suspected we were doing better than average but, this being GFY, I figured whatever stats I posted would be shit on.

AaronM 07-06-2008 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DareRing (Post 14428510)
I picked a random (recent) time frame and cut out affiliate ID#s for privacy.



I didn't give the exact time frame because that would be revealing too much info about a private business on a public message board. I'm a paysite owner showing affiliates what they could expect if they were promoting my sites, not bragging about my personal income. :winkwink:

But I'm glad I'm getting such a positive response to the overall ratios. I suspected we were doing better than average but, this being GFY, I figured whatever stats I posted would be shit on.


For the record...I love your sites and marketing. I think you've got a great niche and handle it very well.

silver 07-06-2008 06:07 PM

Curiosity has sparked me..
Is there a ref code to send traffic to your sextape site without having to send the surfer through that Warning Page?

Agent 488 07-06-2008 06:08 PM

great looking sites. forgot about these.

Iron Fist 07-06-2008 06:10 PM

So theres an affiliate out there who sent you 11 million raw in this timeframe? Holy crap... makes me feel like small potatoes when I see numbers like that!

Boobzooka 07-06-2008 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 14428508)
Well, I can't speak for the emails but at least 2 of the times were here on GFY.

And how is it you know that my messages alone are not reaching you? If you're not getting them, you would not know it therefore it kinda seems a bit assumptive to state that only mine are not being received.

I wasn't trying to be a dick. I'm just saying I have to do support all day long dealing with emails from dumbasses all over the world, so I don't know why ones from Portland wouldn't be delivered.

I do now vaguely recall emailing you a very long time ago after some GFY post, but I don't think I ever heard back, and I don't think you were specific on the boards about what you wanted from me. It was ages ago, and I don't post here much, except to spam occasionally, then make other posts while I'm waiting for replies, so that I don't look like such a spammer.

Did you try those addresses yet? When you publicly say something as serious as "2257 not legit" I hope you will contact me to explain what you mean. My records are mindnumbingly organized.

Boobzooka 07-06-2008 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silver (Post 14428540)
Curiosity has sparked me..
Is there a ref code to send traffic to your sextape site without having to send the surfer through that Warning Page?

With CCBill, you can send to any page you want, if the webmaster allows it in his admin. I do.

To offer Recurring and Non-Recurring billing, with no warning page, link to:
http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic....com/tour.html

To offer only Recurring billing, with no warning page, link to:
http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...m/preview.html

silver 07-06-2008 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DareRing (Post 14428586)
With CCBill, you can send to any page you want, if the webmaster allows it in his admin. I do.

To offer Recurring and Non-Recurring billing, with no warning page, link to:
http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic....com/tour.html

To offer only Recurring billing, with no warning page, link to:
http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...m/preview.html


Thanks!
I will give your sites a shot! :thumbsup

xxxdesign-net 07-06-2008 07:54 PM

why stop the update on Darering? I had a bunch of rebilling customers...

AaronM 07-06-2008 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DareRing (Post 14428570)
I wasn't trying to be a dick. I'm just saying I have to do support all day long dealing with emails from dumbasses all over the world, so I don't know why ones from Portland wouldn't be delivered.

I do now vaguely recall emailing you a very long time ago after some GFY post, but I don't think I ever heard back, and I don't think you were specific on the boards about what you wanted from me. It was ages ago, and I don't post here much, except to spam occasionally, then make other posts while I'm waiting for replies, so that I don't look like such a spammer.

Did you try those addresses yet? When you publicly say something as serious as "2257 not legit" I hope you will contact me to explain what you mean. My records are mindnumbingly organized.


No, I didn't try emailing you. I wanted to talk with you about those things months ago, not today.

Your records may be well organized but that doesn't make your site compliant. My guess is that you are not using an attorney who specializes in adult.

You may want to contact J.D. Obenberger over at xxxlaw.com and ask him for a consultation. :2 cents:

Boobzooka 07-06-2008 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 14428806)
No, I didn't try emailing you. I wanted to talk with you about those things months ago, not today.:

So why did you bring it up today?

You make an ambiguous accusation in a thread about my business, that you know could easily be misinterpreted as something dangerous, and then act all nonchalant like it was me that started this conversation by calling you at home during dinner.

Look, I'm sorry I missed your email, or you missed mine, months ago. It sounds like you were just trying to be helpful, or make us both more money, and that's appreciated. Whatever the reason for the miscommunication, it wasn't an intentional snub, so no need for board drama. If you still know models interested in the SYST project, I have endless commissions to offer. If you have traffic that would benefit you more by sending it to my sites instead of another site, common sense says push it. If you have further sensitive concerns, contact me privately.

jimmy-3-way 07-06-2008 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DareRing (Post 14429023)
So why did you bring it up today?

You make an ambiguous accusation in a thread about my business, that you know could easily be misinterpreted as something dangerous, and then act all nonchalant like it was me that started this conversation by calling you at home during dinner.

Look, I'm sorry I missed your email, or you missed mine, months ago. It sounds like you were just trying to be helpful, or make us both more money, and that's appreciated. Whatever the reason for the miscommunication, it wasn't an intentional snub, so no need for board drama. If you still know models interested in the SYST project, I have endless commissions to offer. If you have traffic that would benefit you more by sending it to my sites instead of another site, common sense says push it. If you have further sensitive concerns, contact me privately.

I'm sorry -- that's way too diplomatic and reasonable for GFY. You should add a mean comment about how you could buy and sell Aaron or possibly criticize his photography or facial hair.

I see you don't post much so I can understand why you don't know the ropes.

seeric 07-06-2008 10:31 PM

no doubt in my mind that this niche would convert the way it does.

datatank 07-06-2008 10:31 PM

wow just checked alexa. I had no idea sellYST was doing so well. Congrats you put out killer sites and do a great job. You deserve it

Pornwolf 07-06-2008 10:44 PM

If I didn't check this thread I would have thought it was a domain owned by KB.

baddog 07-06-2008 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 14427732)
Link farms? How do link farms have anything to do with how well a paysite is doing? Either you are confusing the terminology that you have learned surfing GFY or you are going off in another direction than what the poster is trying to say.
Does anybody know how to get invited to the secret section where it's just guys that own sites?

He is a sig whore that thinks he has figured out what is happening. Pay him no mind, he is one of those you rant about.

baddog 07-06-2008 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by payd2purv (Post 14427776)
:1orglaugh Yahhh that's not very likely...



Well that's what I thought the O.P was talking about because it's webmasters that own shitty linkfarms and blogs that are complaining about lack of sales..

Just admit you are a wannabe that doesn't know shit.

Boobzooka 07-07-2008 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by datatank (Post 14429124)
wow just checked alexa. I had no idea sellYST was doing so well. Congrats you put out killer sites and do a great job. You deserve it

I was amazed when I did the same thing. First comparing sellyoursextape.com to darering.com, and then suicidegirls.com, and ftvgirls.com, and every other "name" adult site I could think of, you know, just to compare e-peen sizes. :jerkoff
It's incredibly fun to watch something you've created reach out to so many people across the whole planet. Unbelievable.

seeric 07-07-2008 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DareRing (Post 14429270)
I was amazed when I did the same thing. First comparing sellyoursextape.com to darering.com, and then suicidegirls.com, and ftvgirls.com, and every other "name" adult site I could think of, you know, just to compare e-peen sizes. :jerkoff
It's incredibly fun to watch something you've created reach out to so many people across the whole planet. Unbelievable.

just did the same. congrats to you. :)

Due 07-07-2008 01:37 AM

Good job, and very nice ratio's as well :thumbsup

Paul Markham 07-07-2008 02:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by commonsense (Post 14427717)
Showing stats won't get you more affiliates or sales, only copycats :2 cents:

Lot's of porn is copied.

We had some guy contact us to copy the Truth or Dare site. He has joined as a member and sent us some clips and asked us the price. When we told him the price he freaked and disappeared. This also happened on a few other sites. they keep thinking this level can be shot by anyone for next to nothing.

Well done DareRing you're proving that good porns sells in a market where so many with crap porn are getting out.

Barefootsies 07-07-2008 07:11 AM

Good ratios buddy. Congrats. Welcome to the club.
:winkwink:

CarlosTheGaucho 07-07-2008 07:43 AM

I was wondering why is there such a form click ratio then I see you're linking directly to the ccbill form from your join links.

Well this niche will always do well I suppose, nothing like sex between people who actually want to have sex with each other.

Congrats!


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