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crockett 11-06-2008 03:27 AM

Man in 100 years..
 
I was just watching TV and that movie the Assassination of Jessie James was on. I'd seen the movie before but the date he died got me thinking. He was killed in 1882 that was only 90 years before I was born and it was such a diffrent time then.

When he was alive the cross country trains was a rather new thing. The major form of transportation was still the horse an buggy. So now it's been 126 years since he was killed. In that amount of time the automobile was invented, man harnessed the atom, we left this planet and landed on the moon. Technology has boomed which has changed the lives of almost everyone on this planet.

For thousands of years man worked with basic hand tools and in roughly 100 years we have advanced faster than we advanced in the previous 1000 combined. You think we can continue to do so, or will we eventually get stuck at some point and not be able to keep advancing at such a rapid pace?

Machete_ 11-06-2008 03:32 AM

For mankind to take the next step, we have to get rid of religion

seeandsee 11-06-2008 03:34 AM

we will have some cool shit invented for sure

- Jesus Christ - 11-06-2008 03:36 AM

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crockett 11-06-2008 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ebus_dk (Post 15013920)
For mankind to take the next step, we have to get rid of religion

Na Religion really has no bearing on it other than it's a reason to wage wars. You might have to say many of our achievements have come because of wars. So while war can be bad it's also the biggest factor in our advancements.

It seems the biggest changes that have affected man in the last 100 years has been transportation and communication. If you assume that will continue to drive change you would have to assume that we will most likely have to move out to other planets.

They say techonlgy wise we could have humans on Mars in less than 20 years living there permanently in 50. To live on Mars we would first have to expand to the moon or to larger space stations, so is space our future and other planets in 100 or less?

voa 11-06-2008 03:48 AM

That is some long period of evolution :)

Voodoo 11-06-2008 03:49 AM

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SexualDragon 11-06-2008 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by ebus_dk (Post 15013920)
For mankind to take the next step, we have to get rid of religion

:2 cents:

LaoTzu 11-06-2008 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ebus_dk (Post 15013920)
For mankind to take the next step, we have to get rid of religion


Post of the day :thumbsup

Machete_ 11-06-2008 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 15013948)
Na Religion really has no bearing on it other than it's a reason to wage wars. You might have to say many of our achievements have come because of wars. So while war can be bad it's also the biggest factor in our advancements.

It seems the biggest changes that have affected man in the last 100 years has been transportation and communication. If you assume that will continue to drive change you would have to assume that we will most likely have to move out to other planets.

They say techonlgy wise we could have humans on Mars in less than 20 years living there permanently in 50. To live on Mars we would first have to expand to the moon or to larger space stations, so is space our future and other planets in 100 or less?


Steam Trains helped develop the west, that dont mean we have to keep using them. Religion separates people

Before Religion there were mythology and tales.
Before that there were dinosaurs and Baddog

Each have their own time. Its time to step away from religion and fix our problem instead of claiming its Gods Will.

I would rather do like George Carling, pray to the sun. Atleast that can fake god can give me sustainable energy. Other religions only want my money and time

crockett 11-06-2008 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ebus_dk (Post 15013977)
Steam Trains helped develop the west, that dont mean we have to keep using them. Religion separates people

Before Religion there were mythology and tales.
Before that there were dinosaurs and Baddog

Each have their own time. Its time to step away from religion and fix our problem instead of claiming its Gods Will.

I would rather do like George Carling, pray to the sun. At Least that can fake god can give me sustainable energy. Other religions only want my money and time

Man will always find a reason to fight among themselves. If not religion it will be race.. if not race it will be their country or group.. greed... power... natural resources.. ect..ect... Religion is nothing more than a reason that has the ability to reach mass amounts of people. Any of the others I mentioned could be used to drive people to war just the same with out Religion.

The change from steam to fossil fuel came because it worked better. However for us to keep up the advancement on say transportation we have to move away from fossil fuels much the same as we moved away from steam.

So it seems renewable energy will be the next advancement that pushes us forward for say the next 100 years in regards to transportation. That or beam me up Scotty transporters..

Voodoo 11-06-2008 04:15 AM

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Adultnet 11-06-2008 04:18 AM

go guess what will be :)

crockett 11-06-2008 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Voodoo (Post 15013994)

We already voted the Republicans out.. so we are safe from Idiocracy for a short time anyway. :winkwink:

Machete_ 11-06-2008 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 15013992)
Man will always find a reason to fight among themselves. If not religion it will be race.. if not race it will be their country or group.. greed... power... natural resources.. ect..ect... Religion is nothing more than a reason that has the ability to reach mass amounts of people. Any of the others I mentioned could be used to drive people to war just the same with out Religion.

The change from steam to fossil fuel came because it worked better. However for us to keep up the advancement on say transportation we have to move away from fossil fuels much the same as we moved away from steam.

So it seems renewable energy will be the next advancement that pushes us forward for say the next 100 years in regards to transportation. That or beam me up Scotty transporters..

Man wants to fight, sure he will. But how we handle that behavior is what separates us from the animals.

Remove religion, and there will be no religious wars and separations.
Remove the need for fosil fuel, and there will be no more wars for oil

If power is free, you can grow food and build houses at almost no cost any where in the world. If everyone can get a place to live, food on the table, a dirt cheap electric car. What else is there to fight about?

And we need to stop trying to find a cure for every health issue. For Homo sapiens to evolve, we need to weak do die - sad but true.

stevo 11-06-2008 04:53 AM

The next few years should be interesting.

Future technologies will focus on clean power generation. Our planet will not be able to sustain much more harm.

I don't believe there's much time left for humanity. With weapon technology it just takes one nutcase to whipe us all out.

I'd be surprised if we make it past 2012.

GatorB 11-06-2008 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 15013894)
For thousands of years man worked with basic hand tools and in roughly 100 years we have advanced faster than we advanced in the previous 1000 combined. You think we can continue to do so, or will we eventually get stuck at some point and not be able to keep advancing at such a rapid pace?

I think we are already at that point. That's not to say we still won't advance just not at the same pace. Take something like planes. From 1903-1953 we went from the Wright brothers wooden crappy plane that could barely get 5 feet off the ground and go 500 feet to jet engines. Have planes adavanced that much since 1953? No. Would the learning curve of someone flying a jet fighter in 1953 to trying to learn to fly a moden jet fighter be as hard as taking a pilot form WWI in 1918 and teaching him to fly a 1950's jet? No. We sent men to the moon 39 years ago. We still don't have the technology to make manned spacecraft go much faster than we did then.

crockett 11-06-2008 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 15014068)
I think we are already at that point. That's not to say we still won't advance just not at the same pace. Take something like planes. From 1903-1953 we went from the Wright brothers wooden crappy plane that could barely get 5 feet off the ground and go 500 feet to jet engines. Have planes adavanced that much since 1953? No. Would the learning curve of someone flying a jet fighter in 1953 to trying to learn to fly a moden jet fighter be as hard as taking a pilot form WWI in 1918 and teaching him to fly a 1950's jet? No. We sent men to the moon 39 years ago. We still don't have the technology to make manned spacecraft go much faster than we did then.


Military aircraft has advanced a lot. Think of the stealth bombers for instate. It would be incapable of flight with out the computer systems that keep it stable. While basic flight hasn't changed much technology in military aircraft have advanced at a large pace, but mostly the added on weaponry and computer systems.

The reason basic flight hasn't changed much is mainly due to the human body because we have reached the max G limit humans can handel. Yet if you look at the new gen fighters like the F22 it uses movable thrusters that allow it to be more maneuverable than the previous generation aircraft like a F16.

BabeHunter 11-06-2008 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by ebus_dk (Post 15013920)
For mankind to take the next step, we have to get rid of religion

100% true

think about the 400-600 years when science was considered devil worship and punishable by death. only in the last 200 years or so it lost it's power and then all the progress started.

just think what would we have now, if we wouldn't have lost all those years.

br4sco 11-06-2008 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by ebus_dk (Post 15013920)
For mankind to take the next step, we have to get rid of religion

if this happens, people will kill others based on how smart you are . :2 cents:

Machete_ 11-06-2008 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by br4sco (Post 15014122)
if this happens, people will kill others based on how smart you are . :2 cents:

What a load of Bullshit.

Peoples stupidity is what led them to belive in their religion in the first place. That and hours of brainwashing as kids.

But keep defending you fake gods - you have already lost.

br4sco 11-06-2008 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ebus_dk (Post 15014130)
What a load of Bullshit.

Peoples stupidity is what led them to belive in their religion in the first place. That and hours of brainwashing as kids.

But keep defending you fake gods - you have already lost.

you know how long it would take to kill religion? its not just jews , jesus and muslims. its way more then that. to hear you say that makes me think your just scared of these people and its your fear thats speaking right now :2 cents:

BlackCrayon 11-06-2008 06:08 AM

I think to really have another invention boom like we did in those days something revolutionary like electricty would have to be invented but something that can used differently than electricity. All of these inventions that made life better would mostly all be useless without electricty.

Machete_ 11-06-2008 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by br4sco (Post 15014144)
you know how long it would take to kill religion? its not just jews , jesus and muslims. its way more then that. to hear you say that makes me think your just scared of these people and its your fear thats speaking right now :2 cents:

Are you stupid? you dont "kill" religion, you EDUCATE people out of it. Just like you can help people that have been brainwashed to believe different Cults, you can make people realize that the religion they have been praising and advocating all their life, is only about money and buying forgiveness or a "ticket to a better place"

If everyone just used their fucking head and looked at FACTS and took responsibility for themselves and their community, the EARTH could be HEAVEN for everyone. But as always, people want to sit back and let someone else come and fix it for them. God dont fix shit - he only wants your money.

I dont need a 2000 year old story telling me I cant steal, rape or lie. Its Newton's Third Law about action and reaction; if you steal something from someone, it will happen to you as well.

When have religion ever fixed anything? missionaries have been running around since forever and told people that the God they used to believe in was fake, and the God the missionaries brought was the real deal? are ANY-- ANY of those countries infested with those religious snake oil salesman better of? have it fixed ANY of the countries problem? no - technology does. God dont build roads - people do. God dont cure Chickenpox - People do. Did God teach people to build roads, no - people did. By hard work and through failures, NOT by praying to a big invisible man in the sky.



but you cant see that - you WONT see that - because you dont want to realise you have been living you life on a big fat lie. You dont want to accept your parents forced you to believe in a fairytale

Machete_ 11-06-2008 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 15014174)
I think to really have another invention boom like we did in those days something revolutionary like electricty would have to be invented but something that can used differently than electricity. All of these inventions that made life better would mostly all be useless without electricty.

I believe the key is learning how to use electricity. Right now we use it for power only. Its so much more than that, since everything around is controlled by electricity and can therefor be controlled by it

Its just a matter of time before we learn how to fully use it on a larger scale


Im counting on AlienQ to invent Electricity V.2.0

br4sco 11-06-2008 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ebus_dk (Post 15014176)

I dont need a 2000 year old story telling me I cant steal, rape or lie. Its Newton's Third Law about action and reaction; if you steal something from someone, it will happen to you as well.

you have alot to worry about if science decides to kill stupid people :1orglaugh for one , i dont believe in anything. two , i think a god sounds more real then karma you dumb shit fucker. just listen to yourself, your a fucking moron

Machete_ 11-06-2008 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by br4sco (Post 15014196)
you have alot to worry about if science decides to kill stupid people :1orglaugh for one , i dont believe in anything. two , i think a god sounds more real then karma you dumb shit fucker. just listen to yourself, your a fucking moron

You think a imaginary man in the sky who no one can see or speak to, is more realistic than the fact that: if you introduce the act of theft in to a closed society, it will in the end and up hurting yourself?

No wonder you have to believe in a God in the sky, when you lack the basic ability to understand simple logic

br4sco 11-06-2008 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ebus_dk (Post 15014225)
You think a imaginary man in the sky who no one can see or speak to, is more realistic than the fact that: if you introduce the act of theft in to a closed society, it will in the end and up hurting yourself?

No wonder you have to believe in a God in the sky, when you lack the basic ability to understand simple logic

Um can you read? i said i dont believe in anything!!!!!!!! But your sitting here busting up god and people who believe in him and you sit down and also say you believe in karma. just listen to your self, you sound like a fucking stupid ass for real. where is the logic in karma? Like i said god to me sounds more real then karma

Machete_ 11-06-2008 06:52 AM

You're the one who called it Karma - not me. I'm calling it the simply logic's of a social mechanism.

It's not my fucking fault you call it "karma" because you dont understand whats going on.

Let me try and explain to you what social mechanism is in this case. It's same that happen when one person starts driving fast on the freeway. One guy might get away with it to begin with, but soon more and more will drive faster and faster if there isn't a mechanism to regulate it (Cops in most cases)

If its allowed to run rampant, it will lead to massive car accidents. It will proberly not involve the individual that started the trend, but he will be the one that introduced it in to a closed environment.


Its not God or Karma. Its simple logic's. For every action there is a reaction.

marko13 11-06-2008 06:57 AM

i think that there are a lot of things to be invented .... so world will go ahead with high speed... a lot of things need to be done especially in third world countries like mine .... i like to see everything automated here....

br4sco 11-06-2008 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ebus_dk (Post 15014267)
You're the one who called it Karma - not me. I'm calling it the simply logic's of a social mechanism.

It's not my fucking fault you call it "karma" because you dont understand whats going on.

Let me try and explain to you what social mechanism is in this case. It's same that happen when one person starts driving fast on the freeway. One guy might get away with it to begin with, but soon more and more will drive faster and faster if there isn't a mechanism to regulate it (Cops in most cases)

If its allowed to run rampant, it will lead to massive car accidents. It will proberly not involve the individual that started the trend, but he will be the one that introduced it in to a closed environment.


Its not God or Karma. Its simple logic's. For every action there is a reaction.

i see what you are saying now, sorry . yes i do agree with that. but to bash religion is just going on what you say, for every action is a reaction .... the people who believe in religion may not like what you say and create a harsh reaction. the best way is just to be silent and let people forget on their own. :2 cents:

Fletch XXX 11-06-2008 07:22 AM

if we dont get the breeding under control in thwe word, there will be no 100 years.

i wont want to see it if we are still here thats for sure.

look around man, every river in America is polluted, our seas are becoming uninhabitable for fish, we cant do anything without fossil fuel etc...

the throw away society mind will be the end of the world

Machete_ 11-06-2008 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 15014359)
if we dont get the breeding under control in thwe word, there will be no 100 years.

i wont want to see it if we are still here thats for sure.

look around man, every river in America is polluted, our seas are becoming uninhabitable for fish, we cant do anything without fossil fuel etc...

the throw away society mind will be the end of the world

People just need to take actions instead of waiting for politicians to fix their problems.

Grapesoda 11-06-2008 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 15013894)
I was just watching TV and that movie the Assassination of Jessie James was on. I'd seen the movie before but the date he died got me thinking. He was killed in 1882 that was only 90 years before I was born and it was such a diffrent time then.

When he was alive the cross country trains was a rather new thing. The major form of transportation was still the horse an buggy. So now it's been 126 years since he was killed. In that amount of time the automobile was invented, man harnessed the atom, we left this planet and landed on the moon. Technology has boomed which has changed the lives of almost everyone on this planet.

For thousands of years man worked with basic hand tools and in roughly 100 years we have advanced faster than we advanced in the previous 1000 combined. You think we can continue to do so, or will we eventually get stuck at some point and not be able to keep advancing at such a rapid pace?

my grandmother was born in 1900, when she was a kid they traveled in a wagon... took 2 days to go 30 miles, they had to camp out over night. her father carried a gun to work in the fields, her uncles fought in the civil war. she lived to see men on the fucking moon....

Grapesoda 11-06-2008 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 15013948)
Na Religion really has no bearing on it other than it's a reason to wage wars. You might have to say many of our achievements have come because of wars. So while war can be bad it's also the biggest factor in our advancements.

It seems the biggest changes that have affected man in the last 100 years has been transportation and communication. If you assume that will continue to drive change you would have to assume that we will most likely have to move out to other planets.

They say techonlgy wise we could have humans on Mars in less than 20 years living there permanently in 50. To live on Mars we would first have to expand to the moon or to larger space stations, so is space our future and other planets in 100 or less?

with out some resolution to our social problems we won't have the funds to reach out to the far reaches of space... my personal opinion is that the 'war of islam' is really about fear of technology and change.

moeloubani 11-06-2008 08:27 AM

Next steps for mankind will be genetic engineering, diseases will be caught before birth and fixed, people will have amazing immune systems and will be somewhat intelligent That would happen after fusion was harnessed and used as a way to provide energy at a very very low cost (almost free). Going to other planets I think will be done but not until past that 100 year mark and after we set up bases on the moon and on Mars.

HorseShit 11-06-2008 08:48 AM

I would think the next advancements would have to be in medicine to fix half of the shit that they barely even had 126 years ago 2c

jakethedog 11-06-2008 08:54 AM

On this topic .. this was an interesting watch ... (over 2 hours but interesting as hell )

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...05277695921912

crockett 11-06-2008 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jdavis (Post 15014642)
I would think the next advancements would have to be in medicine to fix half of the shit that they barely even had 126 years ago 2c

Yes but people dying is what keeps a natural population control. If people are not dying at about the same pace we are reproduced eventually it will cause problems. Look at China as a example.

Machete_ 11-06-2008 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jdavis (Post 15014642)
I would think the next advancements would have to be in medicine to fix half of the shit that they barely even had 126 years ago 2c

To cure a disease, is to dilute the human gene-pool. The more you can cure, the weaker we get

The Duck 11-06-2008 02:43 PM

Each and everyone of us just has to do what is right, no violence, no greed and helping each other. The world will change in no time.

crockett 11-06-2008 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by kandah (Post 15016382)
Each and everyone of us just has to do what is right, no violence, no greed and helping each other. The world will change in no time.

Violence & Greed are two of the biggest driving factors in human existence. Man has been fighting for more power and wealth or resources since well before we climbed down out of the trees.

What makes you think that is what is needed to advance? One might say man has been preprogramed for it because it's a basic need for survival.

notime 11-06-2008 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Voodoo (Post 15013994)

I saw this movie but I forgot the name, what's it called ?

Voodoo 11-06-2008 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by notime (Post 15016771)
I saw this movie but I forgot the name, what's it called ?

Idiocracy

Yngwie 11-06-2008 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ebus_dk (Post 15013920)
For mankind to take the next step, we have to get rid of religion


I agree, but unfortunately I only see religion getting worse and having more control.

Richard - Triplexcash 11-06-2008 04:51 PM

There are lots of great speakers on the subject of the future in science, computers, design and mankind at http://www.ted.com/index.php ... each presentation under 20 minutes :thumbsup

jesse_adultdatingdollars 11-06-2008 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by stevo (Post 15014060)
The next few years should be interesting.

Future technologies will focus on clean power generation. Our planet will not be able to sustain much more harm.

I don't believe there's much time left for humanity. With weapon technology it just takes one nutcase to whipe us all out.

I'd be surprised if we make it past 2012.

Wow Im glad your not right, Jesus lol

br4sco 11-06-2008 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 15016611)
Violence & Greed are two of the biggest driving factors in human existence. Man has been fighting for more power and wealth or resources since well before we climbed down out of the trees.

i agree 100% to that! :thumbsup Nobody hardly believes in god anymore, so to sit here and blame it on that is just complete bullshit

sortie 11-06-2008 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 15013894)
I was just watching TV and that movie the Assassination of Jessie James was on. I'd seen the movie before but the date he died got me thinking. He was killed in 1882 that was only 90 years before I was born and it was such a diffrent time then.

When he was alive the cross country trains was a rather new thing. The major form of transportation was still the horse an buggy. So now it's been 126 years since he was killed. In that amount of time the automobile was invented, man harnessed the atom, we left this planet and landed on the moon. Technology has boomed which has changed the lives of almost everyone on this planet.

For thousands of years man worked with basic hand tools and in roughly 100 years we have advanced faster than we advanced in the previous 1000 combined. You think we can continue to do so, or will we eventually get stuck at some point and not be able to keep advancing at such a rapid pace?


True,

but don't underestimate the ingenuity of the people before us.

They produced many inventions that led to us being able to build on top of them.

There were less people and therefore less people to invent in those days.

They invented ways to make our life easier so that we have way more free time to invent.

If we added up all the inventions over time; those who came before us had
more inventions but didn't have mass marketing for everyone to know about them.

Some of our new inventions are old inventions that now make a lot more sense
because we finally understand what the inventor was seeing.
What comes strongly to my mind here is chemotherapy and placebo medication.
Ancient "witch doctors" used all of this for centuries before "modern man" understood it.

We ain't "modern". We have just collected more tools over time and are arrogant about it.
Neanderthal would have invented a computer too if he had not ran out of time.

Stellar 11-06-2008 08:29 PM

Question,

considering all that has happened in the past 100 short years in terms of total advances in technology and innovations.. do you think man has gone unaided while doing so?


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