ADD / ADHD Hmmm
 

I am a yes for ADHD (maybe that will explain something to you guys)

over the years it's strange how many in this industry are ADD or ADHD



are you?

I think your particular schizo experience is uniquely all your own..

i agree sausage egg and cheese biscuits are delicious:thumbsup

not a nice thing to say..

im add and rls.. with a very very very bad case of a sleepingdisorder.

yea man, got a nice script for addy that makes everything better

+ i work like 50x more now

it's an invented thing by pop psychologists

50 years ago they didn't have such a thing, kids just got a smack across the knuckles with a cane and smartened the fuck up

now they diagnose all these pseudo ailments and put all the kids on drugs, it's sickening

the people posting in this thread are not kids and one already said meds help...

yeah, I was talking about the fact that it is so often "diagnosed" and presciptions written for in kids nowadays mainly



but as far as saying "meds help", one must be careful to really analyze what is happening there, perhaps meds are altering the brain chemistry and making one more focused, which drugs can do, but is it really something healthy that is occuring or just a "stoned" focus ie. just as an example, cocaine and meth can produce some very work productive effects, so one could say that they work too


regardless of the adult debate, it still seems wrong that so many kids nowadays are being prescribed strong stimulants which are altering their brain chemistry forever :2 cents:

I was really this <--> close on taking the big rant tour on you.
Gladly enough, i took my meds for my diagnosed probs.

Although i get your point, putting it THAT blackandwhite without anything in between might be more sickening.

Getting my cane now..

didn't mean to offend, MrFrisky, and if it's working for you then that is good... I just can't help but think that there may be other routes to take, and my main concern is the fact that any kid's that start to misbehave in schools are so quickly being diagnosed and medicated nowadays, where we as a society got along fine without drugs before

altering the brain chemistry is exactly what the drugs are designed to do because add is a chemical imbalance in the brain...they are far safer than cocaine and meth but are still a scheduled drug, and not all of the add medications are stimulants...i'm not gonna fight with you on the over diagnosis in children because you are right...

cool, and I'm not going to be so close minded to think that the drugs don't help some adults, I just think it should be more of a last resort after more natural methods are really given a chance, such as dedicated exercise and really disciplined nutrition.... :2 cents:

Sorry got a little defensive.
Guess because i have been suffering for over 12 years with some conditions (im not sad, and i dont need pity, just a fact) and even meds arent always helping me, im just trying to cope and learn with what i can.

But to be honest, i know where you are coming from, its hard to NOT notice the overacting docs giving meds to kids that just need to be parented more. Its just well.. generalisation is never a good thing.

Btw. my sleeping disorder has never been cured, not with drugs or not with anything at all, which means i sometimes do NOT sleep for about 70-90 hours. Its not like, im taking the easy route throwing in some sleepingpills. Could do that too. Guess that kinda ticked me off.

thats pretty much it in a nutshell...a lot can be alleviated by natural methods but for some that is not enough thus medication...

its in fashion now to have adhd. You just need more ass slapping to be controlled.

ADD is old school - they just call it ADHD now in medical community, same thing

Here is spokesman for ADHD

http://www.woundedbird.com/mandel_howie/5427.jpg

When he was on drugs

Everytime I think of ADHD i think of Howie Mandel.

He has mysophobia so bad he shaves his hair off and wont shake hands with people, as well as, claims to have ADHD so bad he cant do anything

http://www.canadiancontent.net/image...wie-Mandel.jpg

on ADHD drugs lol

yes, very. not hyper, but inability to focus/remember anything.

i have an adderall scrip, helps me actually remember shit and even helps me sleep better - makes me very calm. obv my brain chemistry is funky, amphetamines calm me down!

50 years ago they probably didn't know what AIDs, acid reflux, and all the different types of cancer was either, the list could go on and on. Now does that mean they didn't exists then? Of course not.

Fuck man, I was diagnosed with ADHD when I was little, fucking hated taking my meds as it made me drowsy as fuck and I gained weight without even eating, main reason why I'm as big as I am now. Anyway, I stopped taking them myself and just focused my own energy on keeping myself in check, like the meds would, went 6 months without taking them and nobody knew the difference. When I came out to my mom she told the doctor I wasn't taking them anymore and that she wasn't gonna force me too.

Not only did I stop being the little fuck stick that needed the meds to chill out, I also stopped myself from having a really bad temper.

I guess if you have the will to control yourself it's not hard.

I do agree that there is "over diagnosis" of some of these disorders When I was young they called the kids "very active". The solution was to keep them busy and keep them active.

I am pretty damn sure my son was/is ADD, or ADHD but I do not believe in drugs for kids unless 100% necessary so I went the old fashioned way. I had that kid on his bike, running around the track, doing cartwheels, anything to get him settled, and it did work. Over time he found coping mechanisms to allow him to concentrate when necessary and believe it or not gaming helped him.

The games helped keep his mind active and his hands busy and gave him a release.

add adhd is that even real ?

if you can "cure" your add by sheer force of will/playing sports, it's prob not add - just laziness or a bad diet or something.

i literally cannot remember things that i've just said or done unless i'm taking my medication, and adderall really helped turn me around. it was very frusterating, because i've always been smart/testing in the highest percentiles and a hard worker, but things that i studied would NOT stay in my brain, and i would get overwhelmed so easily, even by things/subjects i enjoyed. i also couldn't sleep because i couldn't stop thinking.

my mother never believed that add was real, so i struggled all through high school but managed to get into good colleges by the grace of my high test scores because i do have good critical thinking/logic skills and did very well on my SATs. after a year or so in college i realized that i needed to do SOMETHING so i wasn't just wasting my money by taking classes but not retaining anything, and got put on adderall after getting some tests and an official diagnosis. it's helped so much - my memory is back, i can sleep, i'm much more calm and focused.

like, i know it's en vogue to self-diagnose and overmedicate kids, but come on now. i think it's always really obvious when looking at the difference between someone who just wants an excuse for why they're lazy/fucking up, and people who actually try really hard but have a bonafide learning disorder.

ADD here.

Whether you "believe" in it or not, think it's overdiagnosed or not, or are just a judgmental prick in general, the fact is people are not all wired the same; different people have different challenges -- don't assume everyone is the same with the same "willpower" available to overcome the same obstacles. Don't get all resentful and scoff at people you don't know jack shit about, making retarded blanket statements.

People with ADD respond differently to stimulants than people who don't have ADD. Case closed. And low doses of prescription stimulants are way safer and cleaner than sucking down caffeine all day that any kid can walk into a store and buy (or junk food or milk with hormones or all of the other chemicals and carcinogens stuffed into food that people shove down their kids throats).

I think it's funny that so many people who feel entitled to judge people with ADD are so often drug users (yes, I include booze) themselves only they have no excuse for their habits; it's not something they're doing to better themselves. "OH, I drink to RELAX!" Dudes, can't you use some willpower or do some yoga to achieve relaxation?

I think most of it's bullshit and made up to sell pills because people are inherently lazy.

I was diagnosed with ADD when I was a kid. Instead of giving me Ritalin, my parents changed my diet (cut out sugars and all sorts of other crap) and put me in as many physically active programs they could find so I'd wear myself out. Seemed to have worked fine.

as a non drinker I love this post...

I think most who call people "lazy" who've benefited from meds are lazy THINKERS.

It's a little too easy and simple-minded to be like, "ADD? Ritalin? Oh, those people are just lazy. That's all there is too it"

You know what's even more fashionable? Sitting around talking about how ADD & ADHD are just fads. It's like a lame junior-high "who's cooler" contest, only adults are the ones playing it hardest.

I agree it's all overdiagnosed and yet another way for pharm companies to make buttloads of money, though.

Right/wrong Food can cause and/or solve ADD/adhd in many cases I heard some from some Doctor friends I have.

diagnosis is best done by psychologists or psychiatrists but your doctor friends are right...i only say this because a couple disorders have similar symptoms and could be misdiagnosed...

ris as in Risperidone?...Risperidone is used to treat the symptoms of schizophrenia (a mental illness that causes disturbed or unusual thinking, loss of interest in life, and strong or inappropriate emotions) in adults and teenagers 13 years of age and older.




mmm hmm that explains a lot.

An excuse for having a tiny attention span and no discipline. Got 0 sympathy for anyone claiming to have this very new and made up 'disorder'.

You hold a loaded gun up to an ADHD's face, and watch how quickly their attention deficit is cured.. I guarantee you will have their undivided attention! It's a choice.

Agreed...

Queue up JaneB...

http://www.ironydesign.com/gallery/t...irrelLOGO2.gif

...and Stinky... :helpme

http://pix.motivatedphotos.com/2009/...12330-ADHD.jpg

All I have is ADG... :winkwink: :party-smi

ADG

I was diagnosed with ADHD 15 years ago as a child.. I took meds for 6 months before I removed myself and straightened myself up so that my doctor and parents didn't know and held it like that for about a year before they figured out I was hiding the meds and then ditching them on my way to school (Look back now, wish I would have sold them :() and have kept my ADHD under control myself for 13+ years.

Sure meds help, but if you have the willpower you can control it yourself.

Its refreshing to see someone take charge and take control of their life like you seem to have. Too often people make excuse after excuse, and embrace the drug/crutch culture. Well done :)

:thumbsup x2

Yeah, it has it's moments where I go bonkers, and it's sometimes hard to focus on work. I sometimes think of getting some adderall to possibly help focus a bit, but I'm not sure if I really need it, just think I need motivation.

Ummm... RLS = restless leg syndrome. :2 cents:

My ass itches.

It's just an excuse for being an annoying cunt.

Back in the day, we were just labeled "Hyperactive"

Totally agree. Now you get Ritalin for not being able to focus or drug abuse haha.
They even tell borderliners they have adhd/add so they can get medicine (which you otherwise cannot).

Crazy times.

All my life I have had "ADD" but my parents refused to put me on it, since they were both teachers they saw how kids reacted to it and opted not for it.

Poor grades in high school, due to just not paying attention in class and homework lead to this. Though in high school I also had a "learning disability", funny part seeing someone in "G/T" or known as "gifted and talent" side glasses with a kid who barely made grades to pass his other classes.

12 years after high school I decide to go talk to a doctor about things, lack of motivation to finish projects, Jumping projects to often and simply just not finishing things up without changing to another project. 2 or 3 visits later and I'm now on Adderall, but due to high blood pressure it was a low dosage, Adderall IR helped for only a few hours, then switched to Adderal XR 10mg. Well that helped a bit more. Then I got married after 6 months and stopped taking everything. Back to where I was before tried to deal with it off the meds. A year of not being on I decide to go back to the doctor, this time a new one due to a insurance change who upped my Adderall to 20MG XR since previously in his opinion was to low. And frankly I am now able to accomplish more than before.

Some people say this is the easy way out to do things. Sure whatever. If my insurance wants to help pay for my meds so I can live a better life I really don't care what others opinions are. I am happy and frankly thats all that matters.

Better living through modern chemistry ftw.

My son was a zombie and had no appetite when we tried using Ritalin many years ago. We decided we rather have our son's perky personality and normal weight back by skipping the drugs and live with the lower grades. The side effects are not worth the increase in grades. Besides, if you push hard enough, the teachers are required to accomodate the issue by providing extra time for assignments and tests.

Done correctly your kid should not of been in a zombie state, proper dosage it should keep them alert/aware. Not a zombie. I experienced the zombie state with Adderall when taking to much of it at once.

one day I will learn to check dates

big pharma to the rescue!

I might have it.