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SteveHardeman 12-16-2008 12:55 PM

Question For CCBill Regarding Sites With Stolen Content.......
 
.....who freely fly their sigs on this forum.....<shaking head>

The link to CCBill's Copyright Violation Page is here:
http://ccbill.com/cs/dmca.htm

The verbage is as follows:
Instructions for Filing a Copyright Violation Complaint

As an ISP, CCBill follows the procedures prescribed by the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) for notification, takedown, and counter-notification. If you believe one of CCBill?s clients has infringed on your copyrights, the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (17 U.S.C. § 512) outlines the specific procedures for notifying the infringing party.

In accordance with the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, you must provide CCBill with ALL of the following information:

(1) A physical or electronic signature of a person authorized to act on behalf of the owner of an exclusive right that is being infringed;

(2) Identification of the copyrighted work claimed to have been infringed;

(3) Identification of the material that is allegedly infringing;

(4) The complaining party's address, telephone number and email address;

(5) A statement that the complaining party has a good-faith belief that use of the material in the manner complained of is not authorized by the copyright owner, its agent or the law; and

(6) A statement that the information in the notification is accurate, and under penalty of perjury, that the complaining party is authorized to act on behalf of the owner of an exclusive right that is allegedly infringed.

For your convenience, we have attached a Notice of Copyright Infringement form that contains all that required information. Please email a completed (unsigned) copy and also fax or image and email a signed copy of the Notification for our files.

With this information, CCBill can take swift and serious action against any network user which may be in violation of copyright law, however, we cannot legally be considered to be ?on notice? and thereby take any action until you have complied.

If you have any questions regarding our policies or procedures, you may
contact our registered DMCA Agent: Thomas A. Fisher, VP, CCBill (480) 449-7761 or Fax (480) 449-8814.

Thank you,

Tom Fisher, V.P.

Notice of Copyright Infringement

My questions are:

If I send you one DMCA, what is your next step? Specifically what is your next step.

If the violator takes down the specific stolen content in question, is that it? You continue to process after that?

If it takes more than one DMCA notice for you to stop processing, exactly how many notices is it and in what time frame do you need them, to stop processing?

Does each notice need to be from a separate owner or can one owner file one DMCA against a violating site with multiple stolen scenes from one producer, get that scene deleted, then submit another, then another and so on?

That's all I can think of for now. Thank you in advance for your assistance.

Steve

spunky99 12-16-2008 01:03 PM

good questions

Barefootsies 12-16-2008 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spunky99 (Post 15204342)
good questions

and good luck.

:2 cents:

d-null 12-16-2008 01:12 PM

bump for a response

SteveHardeman 12-16-2008 03:18 PM

Oh CCbill, where are you?

TheDA 12-16-2008 04:54 PM

Someone from CCBill posted some of the answers you are after before. Corvette I think. I think he explained the amount of DMCA's required but not sure what else.

Mutt 12-16-2008 05:21 PM

ahahahahahahaha - the day CCBILL pulls processing on any of those stolen content 'ex-gf' sites i'll donate a grand to the charity of their choice.

won't happen!

pocketkangaroo 12-16-2008 05:26 PM

Economy is pretty shitty these days, CCBill isn't pulling shit. They know the sites and what they're doing.

SteveHardeman 12-17-2008 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 15205657)
ahahahahahahaha - the day CCBILL pulls processing on any of those stolen content 'ex-gf' sites i'll donate a grand to the charity of their choice.

won't happen!

So, if I get them to dump one site with stolen content, you'll donate? Sweet, I'm saving this thread. Can it by the charity of my choice? :-) People For The Ethical Treatment of Horny Porn Surfers.

And a bump for myself cuz this is important to me and I'd either like the answers or for CCBill to acknowledge, thru silence, that they just don't care.

12clicks 12-17-2008 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveHardeman (Post 15207663)
So, if I get them to dump one site with stolen content, you'll donate? Sweet, I'm saving this thread. Can it by the charity of my choice? :-) People For The Ethical Treatment of Horny Porn Surfers.

And a bump for myself cuz this is important to me and I'd either like the answers or for CCBill to acknowledge, thru silence, that they just don't care.

dear chat board clown,

CCBill's contact info can be found everywhere. Expecting an answer outside of business hours AND on a chatboard makes perfect sense with your join date.
Imagining that you're somehow entitled to have CCBill drop everything and run down a couple pictures that may or may not be yours just because, well, you want it done now, is also commensurate with your join date.

Iron Fist 12-17-2008 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 15207699)
dear chat board clown,

CCBill's contact info can be found everywhere. Expecting an answer outside of business hours AND on a chatboard makes perfect sense with your join date.
Imagining that you're somehow entitled to have CCBill drop everything and run down a couple pictures that may or may not be yours just because, well, you want it done now, is also commensurate with your join date.

Heh, and they say join date doesn't mean anything anymore.... SHENANIGANS! :thumbsup

webmasterchecks 12-17-2008 07:16 AM

im sure they have stated this before on here. if they get one unique complaint and its a one-time thing, they overlook it. if they get 2-3 and it suggests the site has stolen content, they turn them off.

SteveHardeman 12-17-2008 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by webmasterchecks (Post 15207749)
im sure they have stated this before on here. if they get one unique complaint and its a one-time thing, they overlook it. if they get 2-3 and it suggests the site has stolen content, they turn them off.

Hey WMC, yeah, I hear ya, I've seen numerous statements from them and others that if they receive "multiple" complaints, they'll stop processing. Is it 2? Is it 5? Is it 5 within one week? 5 within one month? I'm simply trying to find out EXACTLY what their process is. What exactly triggers a shut-down. From a producer's standpoint, I don't think that's too much to ask.

chupachups 12-17-2008 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 15207699)
dear chat board .


You can tell 12clicks is a real veteran - "chat board" :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

webmasterchecks 12-17-2008 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveHardeman (Post 15207808)
Hey WMC, yeah, I hear ya, I've seen numerous statements from them and others that if they receive "multiple" complaints, they'll stop processing. Is it 2? Is it 5? Is it 5 within one week? 5 within one month? I'm simply trying to find out EXACTLY what their process is. What exactly triggers a shut-down. From a producer's standpoint, I don't think that's too much to ask.

Your not likely to find any host/biller with any sense that will post that type of information out there.

2 over 5 years is not the same as 2 in a week, and 10 from the same person is not the same as 10 from 10 different people.

Many people dont know this, but CCBill helped create the law on 2257 and what a "repeat infringer" is
http://ilt.eff.org/index.php/Perfect..._v._CCBill_LLC

youll have better luck icqing corvette and talking to him 45471840

SteveHardeman 12-17-2008 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by webmasterchecks (Post 15207854)
Your not likely to find any host/biller with any sense that will post that type of information out there.

2 over 5 years is not the same as 2 in a week, and 10 from the same person is not the same as 10 from 10 different people.

Many people dont know this, but CCBill helped create the law on 2257 and what a "repeat infringer" is
http://ilt.eff.org/index.php/Perfect..._v._CCBill_LLC

youll have better luck icqing corvette and talking to him 45471840

Hey man, that was very informative. Thank you. For those that care, that verbage is extremely hard to understand but at the bottom of it are two links to two people who wrote a summary on it. That is also dry and hard to understand but far less so than the original document.

If CCBill has no specific policy, that's fine. I just want to know. They're a big company. They can do whatever they want. I just want to know. Again, WMC, great link. I appreciate it.

gooddomains 12-17-2008 10:23 AM

stolen content is a myth


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