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Shap 03-03-2009 03:21 PM

Some business advice!
 
I really shouldn't be one giving advice. But someone icq'ed this to me so I thought I'd pass it along.

"Before you register a domain that you plan to invest a lot of money in and make huge you should probably research and see if it is violating a Trademark"

Sounds like good advice. What do you guys think?

The Duck 03-03-2009 03:22 PM

If it concerns generic words then I dont see the need to.

Shap 03-03-2009 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kandah (Post 15577742)
If it concerns generic words then I dont see the need to.

Is RockBand a generic word?
Penthouse?
Playboy?
FaceBook?
MySpace?

Shap 03-03-2009 03:58 PM

What do you guys think? Good or bad advice?

»Rob Content« 03-03-2009 03:59 PM

One could argue that facebook, or playboy could have been considered generic when they first started.

youtube sounds generic, but I assure you you'll get some legal issues

Sands 03-03-2009 04:00 PM

i sale one touch advice

Shap 03-03-2009 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by »Rob Content« (Post 15577881)
One could argue that facebook, or playboy could have been considered generic when they first started.

youtube sounds generic, but I assure you you'll get some legal issues

Exactly. Which is why you have to research before developing a domain.

d-null 03-03-2009 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 15577876)
What do you guys think? Good or bad advice?

definitely something to think about, especially if you are going to invest alot into a project


I think there are alot of people that actually go the opposite way, and think of all the ways they can infringe on trademarks as they register a bunch of names :1orglaugh

munki 03-03-2009 04:03 PM

Business is business... people bitch to much

Shap 03-03-2009 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d-null (Post 15577890)
definitely something to think about, especially if you are going to invest alot into a project


I think there are alot of people that actually go the opposite way, and think of all the ways they can infringe on trademarks as they register a bunch of names :1orglaugh

Definitely. But when you do that you have to be sure you make your money and are aware that you may lose it one day.

CyberHustler 03-03-2009 04:06 PM


g$$$ 03-03-2009 04:07 PM

great advice shap.

i think register it though first..only 10 bucks..then do the research. if u are good to go...go for it!

Brujah 03-03-2009 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 15577876)
What do you guys think? Good or bad advice?

Was it from a buddy, or a domain lawyer? :winkwink:

d-null 03-03-2009 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 15577904)
Definitely. But when you do that you have to be sure you make your money and are aware that you may lose it one day.

agree with you there, often it can be a game of hoping to attain a price that is somewhere in between nothing and what the legal costs might be to the "rightful" owner..... unfortunately it is easy to get "attached" to a project once some time passes and work gets put into it

Shap 03-03-2009 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 15577951)
Was it from a buddy, or a domain lawyer? :winkwink:

My wife :1orglaugh

Brujah 03-03-2009 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 15577972)
My wife :1orglaugh

The wife is always right, and trumps everything. :2 cents:

starpimps 03-03-2009 04:35 PM

two threads about this is enough

ktnx

Juicy D. Links 03-03-2009 04:38 PM

Shap u have exceeded the MAD VIEWS quota for today , please no more posts till after midnight we (the bros) cannot let you have all these mad views. Thank you for you cooperation


-Head Br0

uno 03-03-2009 04:41 PM

Shap, hit me on icq, i lost it in the switch from trillian to pidgin.

EscortBiz 03-03-2009 04:43 PM

fact is you are being a asshole for no reason and I sure hope you get bitten by the same type one day real bad

you can write all day long, you are wrong the people didnt do it to fuck you and will not cost you anything, you just decided to be a prick

I dont know you or those you are hurting but you pulled something dirty, anyone agreeing with you is just a typical ass kisser no clue why

notime 03-03-2009 04:45 PM

Shap, when you registered sextube, why did you choose the word "tube" back then?
Did youtube exist back then already ?
Where did the word "tube" originate from by the way (in web context I mean) ?
I know tubes are a mean of underground transportation when I was in London a long time ago and learned what it was.

Shap 03-03-2009 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notime (Post 15578142)
Shap, when you registered sextube, why did you choose the word "tube" back then?
Did youtube exist back then already ?
Where did the word "tube" originate from by the way (in web context I mean) ?
I know tubes are a mean of underground transportation when I was in London a long time ago and learned what it was.

I registered it before youtube. I was thinking boob toob as it is a popular term to refer to tv.

HorseShit 03-03-2009 04:51 PM

http://www.legalzoom.com/trademarks/...s-pricing.html

notime 03-03-2009 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 15578179)
I registered it before youtube. I was thinking boob toob as it is a popular term to refer to tv.

Smart thinking back then :thumbsup
I just wondered where the whole "tube" names & ideas came from in those years since it's not logical to have the underground subway system name in a porn site, unless the stuff "goes down the tube" as an old saying :winkwink:

u-Bob 03-03-2009 04:59 PM

Evidence of Bad Character....

WiredGuy 03-03-2009 05:03 PM

You should be selling you sig shap. every thread u start or about you is on fire lately. you cant buy that kind of exposure!
WG

EscortBiz 03-03-2009 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 15578268)
You should be selling you sig shap. every thread u start or about you is on fire lately. you cant buy that kind of exposure!
WG

anyone with a brain will stay away from him and you should to

seeandsee 03-03-2009 05:05 PM

shap blackhole 4 domains :)

Shap 03-03-2009 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 15578268)
You should be selling you sig shap. every thread u start or about you is on fire lately. you cant buy that kind of exposure!
WG

Good advice ;)

Splum 03-03-2009 05:06 PM

Hey Shap can you link to your trademark please? Sure would like to see it.

Shap 03-03-2009 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Splum (Post 15578287)
Hey Shap can you link to your trademark please? Sure would like to see it.

It's easily found on the US Trademark site
http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield...003:214ulh.2.4

HorseShit 03-03-2009 05:13 PM

i've started a number of mainstream sites and you can bet they are all in the process of being trade marked.. takes a while though

Shap 03-03-2009 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdavis (Post 15578342)
i've started a number of mainstream sites and you can bet they are all in the process of being trade marked.. takes a while though

Will you turn a blind eye if someone violates your trademark to be a nice guy?

HorseShit 03-03-2009 05:16 PM

http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?...004:hlqcqf.3.1

HorseShit 03-03-2009 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 15578351)
Will you turn a blind eye if someone violates your trademark to be a nice guy?

Of course not... I like you both though so I don't want to get in the middle of it

uno 03-03-2009 05:18 PM

Damn I think I missed your approval because of spam requests.

digitaldivas 03-03-2009 05:21 PM

Even if a company owns a federally registered trademark, someone else may still have the right to the domain name. For example, many different companies have federally registered the trademark Executive for different goods or services. All of these companies may want www.executive.com but the first one to purchase it"in this case, Executive Software"is the one that acquired the domain name and has the rights to it. If it is an active domain, getting traffic with content, ICANN will usually side with the domain owner. Furthermore, most of these cases are handled by arbitration.

TheDA 03-03-2009 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notime (Post 15578235)
Smart thinking back then :thumbsup
I just wondered where the whole "tube" names & ideas came from in those years since it's not logical to have the underground subway system name in a porn site, unless the stuff "goes down the tube" as an old saying :winkwink:

'Tube' in the UK and Eire at least has been used as a slang term for the TV for decades.

A guy called Paul Raymond, in the mid to late 80's, played with the idea of expanding onto TV with a late night slot for his adult business

The name going to be used for the show was...wait for it... Sex Tube, to follow the format of an already running, ground-breaking music show with a similar name - The Tube :)

Shap 03-03-2009 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDA (Post 15578402)
'Tube' in the UK and Eire at least has been used as a slang term for the TV for decades.

A guy called Paul Raymond, in the mid to late 80's, played with the idea of expanding onto TV with a late night slot for his adult business

The name going to be used for the show was...wait for it... Sex Tube, to follow the format of an already running, ground-breaking music show with a similar name - The Tube :)

No shit. Cool stuff.

BlackCrayon 03-03-2009 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 15577751)
Is RockBand a generic word?
Penthouse?
Playboy?
FaceBook?
MySpace?

Rock band definitely is. Apple (iphone.com), facebook and many others have all paid big money to secure their domains.

notime 03-03-2009 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDA (Post 15578402)
'Tube' in the UK and Eire at least has been used as a slang term for the TV for decades.

A guy called Paul Raymond, in the mid to late 80's, played with the idea of expanding onto TV with a late night slot for his adult business

The name going to be used for the show was...wait for it... Sex Tube, to follow the format of an already running, ground-breaking music show with a similar name - The Tube :)

Ok, so tube=tv
I thought it was underground transportation/metro.
Thanks for the clarification :thumbsup

mynameisjim 03-03-2009 05:29 PM

There was a small hot dog stand near me called "Wee-Dee's" and I guess had been around forever.

The maker of the cereal "Wheaties" sued them to force them to change their name.

You never know when a big company will get a bug up it's ass or bad advice from lawyers on the payroll who could care less about their image and decide to sue someone.

Obviously, don't go making a fruit juice called PepsiJuice but you never know what a big company will do or waste it's resources on.

BlackCrayon 03-03-2009 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notime (Post 15578235)
Smart thinking back then :thumbsup
I just wondered where the whole "tube" names & ideas came from in those years since it's not logical to have the underground subway system name in a porn site, unless the stuff "goes down the tube" as an old saying :winkwink:

yeah right. i very much doubt it. probably was some random reg thinking in terms of pussy or dick being a "sex tube" or something similar

TheDA 03-03-2009 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notime (Post 15578448)
Ok, so tube=tv
I thought it was underground transportation/metro.
Thanks for the clarification :thumbsup

Tube also = underground/metro :)

Older TV's were basically a huge cathode ray tube, I guess that's where they got that from.

In my earlier post, the TV show, The Tube, didn't actually derive it's name from tube = TV though. :)

Dood 03-03-2009 05:47 PM

I haven't read all of the other threads about this but from your logic...

Shouldn't,
sex.com sue you
tube.com sue you
or any other domain with sex or tube in it sue you
?

If you registered sextube before youtube shouldn't you,
sue youtube.com
sue redtube.com
or any other domain with tube in the name
?

Shap 03-03-2009 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dood (Post 15578586)
I haven't read all of the other threads about this but from your logic...

Shouldn't,
sex.com sue you
tube.com sue you
or any other domain with sex or tube in it sue you
?

If you registered sextube before youtube shouldn't you,
sue youtube.com
sue redtube.com
or any other domain with tube in the name
?

Do they have the trademark?

Guys I don't make the law. I'm just following it.

Shap 03-03-2009 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 15578462)
yeah right. i very much doubt it. probably was some random reg thinking in terms of pussy or dick being a "sex tube" or something similar

LOL you guys are great for a laugh. Yeah I was thinking of a tube to put your dick in. Sure. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Splum 03-03-2009 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 15578592)
Do they have the trademark? Guys I don't make the law. I'm just following it.

Thats ok I see your full videos on "sex tube" sites all the time! :thumbsup
So maybe its karma you did what you did. :1orglaugh

Shap 03-03-2009 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dood (Post 15578586)
I haven't read all of the other threads about this but from your logic...

Shouldn't,
sex.com sue you
tube.com sue you
or any other domain with sex or tube in it sue you
?

If you registered sextube before youtube shouldn't you,
sue youtube.com
sue redtube.com
or any other domain with tube in the name
?

btw are you really as stupid as your post? We have a trademark on SexTube. How is that related to RedTube?

uno 03-03-2009 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notime (Post 15578448)
Ok, so tube=tv
I thought it was underground transportation/metro.
Thanks for the clarification :thumbsup

Depends where you are from.


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