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oldboy 06-24-2009 03:54 AM

Porn vs prostitution
 
There are more money in prostitution so why do girls choose to do porn?

frankie_gunn 06-24-2009 04:02 AM

They get to fuck hot young guys, and don't have to do it every day for the same amount of money.

voa 06-24-2009 04:02 AM

Because they think they are more save in porn

Klen 06-24-2009 04:06 AM

Maybe because prostitution is still illegal in most of countries?Plus there are many pornstar who provide escort services.

notime 06-24-2009 05:32 AM

They can watch it again later....

smutnut 06-24-2009 05:54 AM

This is a joke question, right?

Just in case. Most pornstars don't get beaten by their pimps or awaken with their throats slit in the back of some dark alley.

Unless you're talking about high class escorts with just a few select clients, and then I'm sure it's a matter of going where the best profit is.

Also I'd question where most money really is. It all depends on who you are and what you have to do.

EscortBiz 06-24-2009 05:59 AM

A few things:

A) many girls who do porn have done escorting before they started porn and continue to do so, remember porn is shot at hours that escorts dont get many calls

B) Just like mainstream actresses think that once they land in Hollywood and people see her natural acting skills that her mother brags about everyone will rush to hire her, same goes with porn most girls who get into porn, they all throw around the same lame words "my goal is to get a contract" or "im doing it to get content to start my own site" both very sad dreams as it never translates into what they are expecting. Once they see that the only way to make any money worth wiriting home about is to do hardcore they either quit or do it and as time goes on they will start doing "privates" and possibly fizzle out of shooting porn all together.

C) Many do stripping, escorting, porn etc. You may ask isnt shooting porn enough money? But between sometimes trying to satisfy some pimp to the fact girls who do this spend money 5X as fast as it comes in on shoes handbags etc (many cases to calm the depression) they always seem to be broke, even girls brining in 5K + a week.

D) When you see hot escorts that dont do porn dont always think the reason is because they dont want to be on camera (althou that can be the case yet they have no problem having their photo on 5000 escort sites) the escort might simply have dirty tests and god knows how dirty, and thats why she cant shoot for anyone normal.

E) Shooting porn for 800+ a day "sounds way better" then going from house to house sucking cock for 150 bucks, they also feel its safer security wise and health wise.

When you see a girl do hardcore today remember when she started she use to wear a wig to try to hide who she is, maybe even dyed her hair, she maybe refused to even talk much in the porn, its a gradual process, as they see other girls on set doing hardcore and hardcore girls always seem to push the non hardcore girls into doing hardcore and the cycle keeps on repeating itself.

The truth:

For a girl that will work with a normal agent porn is great money, she simply needs to decide her boundaries way in advance and stick to those.

Remember most girls in these days anyway go on many dates a week get played by guys that fuck them with no condom and no tests and they dont get paid for it.

So for many girls after being bullshitted over and over they are like what the fuck, I might as well get paid to have sex and who cares that its on cam, at least they will fuck guys that have big dicks and in many cases look good.

EscortBiz 06-24-2009 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smutnut (Post 15991940)

Unless you're talking about high class escorts with just a few select clients, and then I'm sure it's a matter of going where the best profit is.

you watch to many movies, this really only applies to 0.1% of escorts out there, yet 99% of escorts will tell you they only see a few people a week and thats it, they will describe them as very well known sports stars and actors or political connected people, most men will buy their bullshit too.

They might even go as far as saying that "Celeb A" (someone real rich and famous) wants to marry them but they dont feel its a right connection.

Here is a tip "Never under any circumstances believe a SINGLE work a stripper, escort, porn girl tells you" about money offers and marriage offers she gets etc.

Even the super hot ones and im talking REALLY hot seem to be always out of money, part being is because they only work when they need to cover a certain bill, so they have 0 buffer.

smutnut 06-24-2009 06:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EscortBiz (Post 15991954)
you watch to many movies, this really only applies to 0.1% of escorts out there, yet 99% of escorts will tell you they only see a few people a week and thats it, they will describe them as very well known sports stars and actors or political connected people, most men will buy their bullshit too.

They might even go as far as saying that "Celeb A" (someone real rich and famous) wants to marry them but they dont feel its a right connection.

Here is a tip "Never under any circumstances believe a SINGLE work a stripper, escort, porn girl tells you" about money offers and marriage offers she gets etc.

Even the super hot ones and im talking REALLY hot seem to be always out of money, part being is because they only work when they need to cover a certain bill, so they have 0 buffer.

Which pretty much proves my point.

P.S. I never believe anything a woman says period so I'm covered in the trust department unless I turn gay. :1orglaugh

u-Bob 06-24-2009 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notime (Post 15991916)
They can watch it again later....

:1orglaugh

smutnut 06-24-2009 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EscortBiz (Post 15991944)
A few things:

A) many girls who do porn have done escorting before they started porn and continue to do so, remember porn is shot at hours that escorts dont get many calls

B) Just like mainstream actresses think that once they land in Hollywood and people see her natural acting skills that her mother brags about everyone will rush to hire her, same goes with porn most girls who get into porn, they all throw around the same lame words "my goal is to get a contract" or "im doing it to get content to start my own site" both very sad dreams as it never translates into what they are expecting. Once they see that the only way to make any money worth wiriting home about is to do hardcore they either quit or do it and as time goes on they will start doing "privates" and possibly fizzle out of shooting porn all together.

C) Many do stripping, escorting, porn etc. You may ask isnt shooting porn enough money? But between sometimes trying to satisfy some pimp to the fact girls who do this spend money 5X as fast as it comes in on shoes handbags etc (many cases to calm the depression) they always seem to be broke, even girls brining in 5K + a week.

D) When you see hot escorts that dont do porn dont always think the reason is because they dont want to be on camera (althou that can be the case yet they have no problem having their photo on 5000 escort sites) the escort might simply have dirty tests and god knows how dirty, and thats why she cant shoot for anyone normal.

E) Shooting porn for 800+ a day "sounds way better" then going from house to house sucking cock for 150 bucks, they also feel its safer security wise and health wise.

When you see a girl do hardcore today remember when she started she use to wear a wig to try to hide who she is, maybe even dyed her hair, she maybe refused to even talk much in the porn, its a gradual process, as they see other girls on set doing hardcore and hardcore girls always seem to push the non hardcore girls into doing hardcore and the cycle keeps on repeating itself.

The truth:

For a girl that will work with a normal agent porn is great money, she simply needs to decide her boundaries way in advance and stick to those.

Remember most girls in these days anyway go on many dates a week get played by guys that fuck them with no condom and no tests and they dont get paid for it.

So for many girls after being bullshitted over and over they are like what the fuck, I might as well get paid to have sex and who cares that its on cam, at least they will fuck guys that have big dicks and in many cases look good.

Just curious. You're not claiming prostitution isn't dangerous, are you?

Not trying to start something up, but what I know has nothing to do with the movies, and statiscally it's probably safer than most life threatening jobs, but it is a fairly dangerous business.

EscortBiz 06-24-2009 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smutnut (Post 15991973)
Just curious. You're not claiming prostitution isn't dangerous, are you?

and what did I say that even remotely says none of this isnt dangerous?

Manowar 06-24-2009 06:26 AM

listen to ugk - the game belong to me.... sums it up pretty well, although escortbiz has already done a great job

smutnut 06-24-2009 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EscortBiz (Post 15991978)
and what did I say that even remotely says none of this isnt dangerous?

It's what you didn't say. Like I said, I was just curious. I realize an escort business operates differently than typical prostitution, which is the majority of the business, but even a service doesn't gaurantee shit.

I'm not anti-prostitution, anymore than I'm anti physical sports or bounty hunting or parachuting (etc), but there is an element of danger and I think that might be a factor that makes girls more inclined to porn.

Damn, I thought he was asking a joke question, but I guess not after all.

GatorB 06-24-2009 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frankie_gunn (Post 15991760)
They get to fuck hot young guys,.

I agree

http://www.iwoulddothatsortathing.co...11-475x606.jpg

EscortBiz 06-24-2009 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smutnut (Post 15992004)
It's what you didn't say. Like I said, I was just curious. I realize an escort business operates differently than typical prostitution, which is the majority of the business, but even a service doesn't gaurantee shit.

I'm not anti-prostitution, anymore than I'm anti physical sports or bounty hunting or parachuting (etc), but there is an element of danger and I think that might be a factor that makes girls more inclined to porn.

Damn, I thought he was asking a joke question, but I guess not after all.

You are assuming that most girls did their first gig by going thru a agent and dealing with a normal pro crew.

In most cases their first gig was just as dangerous as showing up to some strangers house at 3AM, their first gig might of been some ad they replied to on CL whereas some guy was shooting POV in his moms basement.

Its all risky no doubt

smutnut 06-24-2009 06:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 15992010)

:1orglaugh not really a good example! Was he ever? I don't think he'd survive in today's porn world.

CaptainHowdy 06-24-2009 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notime (Post 15991916)
They can watch it again later....

:1orglaugh best response EVER...

smutnut 06-24-2009 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EscortBiz (Post 15992026)
You are assuming that most girls did their first gig by going thru a agent and dealing with a normal pro crew.

In most cases their first gig was just as dangerous as showing up to some strangers house at 3AM, their first gig might of been some ad they replied to on CL whereas some guy was shooting POV in his moms basement.

Its all risky no doubt

I disagree. I think most girls get into porn through someone they are at the very least a casual aquaintance with.

I think a lot (I won't say most) girls get into prostitution with a complete stranger, or at least make the transaction with one.

Not that this makes any difference. Sooner or later all prostitutes that stay in the business have to change their personal rules and most end up meeting even stranger people.

In the porn business they get to know people who are more and more legit and become part of a community (generally, until they overstay their welcome)

porn is not as dangerous as prostitution. it's just not possible and the statistics wouldn't support that at all.

Farang 06-24-2009 06:41 AM

I love hookers... I love I love I love them!!

EscortBiz 06-24-2009 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smutnut (Post 15992045)
I disagree. I think most girls get into porn through someone they are at the very least a casual aquaintance with.

I think a lot (I won't say most) girls get into prostitution with a complete stranger, or at least make the transaction with one.

Not that this makes any difference. Sooner or later all prostitutes that stay in the business have to change their personal rules and most end up meeting even stranger people.

In the porn business they get to know people who are more and more legit and become part of a community (generally, until they overstay their welcome)

porn is not as dangerous as prostitution. it's just not possible and the statistics wouldn't support that at all.

You think and I know thats the difference here

smutnut 06-24-2009 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EscortBiz (Post 15992061)
You think and I know thats the difference here

Actually, we should lure Jenna Jameson and the "local crackwhore" into this thread and get some actual real world perspective on this :1orglaugh

Vicious_B 06-24-2009 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 15992010)

Quote:

Originally Posted by smutnut (Post 15992028)
:1orglaugh not really a good example! Was he ever? I don't think he'd survive in today's porn world.

Hard to believe but he wasn't bad looking when he started out. Of course today he would have probably waxed the hell out of his chest. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_kSm0wRTRwg...n-jeremy-1.jpg

http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/dai...eremy-nude.jpg

Chicks Delivery 06-24-2009 07:06 AM

Because in Porn they become famous!

Iron Fist 06-24-2009 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 15992010)

That why those girls demand like $1500 a set... that troll is one ugly mother.. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

seeandsee 06-24-2009 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 15992010)

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

pornlaw 06-24-2009 08:27 AM

When a woman does porn she gets to increase her rates for escorting, dancing and webcamming.

A lot of pornstars do escort and they can charge $1500 or more per hour as opposed to perhaps $500 to $750 if they never did scenes.

It really is a question of chicken vs. the egg. I know al lot of women that started on the escort/dancer side and moved over as a business decision to make more money. There are more that go from porn to escorting to make up income gaps when shooting tails off.

Either way, it is usually tied to an increase in income either way.

Deesnuts 06-24-2009 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by voa (Post 15991762)
Because they think they are more save in porn

true true

robfantasy 06-24-2009 09:23 AM

listen to escortbiz he knows his shit

DWB 06-24-2009 09:51 AM

What makes you think they all choose one or the other? Many of them do both.

tonyparra 06-24-2009 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smutnut (Post 15991940)
This is a joke question, right?

Just in case. Most pornstars don't get beaten by their pimps or awaken with their throats slit in the back of some dark alley.
.

I never beat my hoes. Im not sure if they wake up after their throats get slit though.

smutnut 06-24-2009 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robfantasy (Post 15992573)
listen to escortbiz he knows his shit

Great! Now, I have a contact when if I need to start selling my ass!

Emma 06-24-2009 10:26 AM

I found this http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/08/12/co...phy/index.html

Robbie 06-24-2009 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornlaw (Post 15992359)
When a woman does porn she gets to increase her rates for escorting, dancing and webcamming.

A lot of pornstars do escort and they can charge $1500 or more per hour as opposed to perhaps $500 to $750 if they never did scenes.

It really is a question of chicken vs. the egg. I know al lot of women that started on the escort/dancer side and moved over as a business decision to make more money. There are more that go from porn to escorting to make up income gaps when shooting tails off.

Either way, it is usually tied to an increase in income either way.

I was reading all the answers in this thread made by guys who seem to be just theorizing about the girls in the adult business. I was getting my typing fingers ready to tell you guys the real deal about it...

But then Michael reached out his pimp hand and bitch slapped me by beating me to the punch. :1orglaugh

That is 100% correct Michael. You'd think that some of the people on GFY would have some knowledge of marketing, but in this thread it appears that only you and I do.

CM gets offers via email everyday. Most recently was an offer for her to go on a world cruise with a six figure payday for her time. She certainly wouldn't get these kind of offers if she wasn't a pornstar.

So it's not a case of either/or, but rather a symbiotic relationship between the two. If you gain some notoriety as a porn star and develop a big fan base, then you can make a lot more money at the strip club and/or you will get outrageous money offers for sex BECAUSE you are a pornstar and have some level of fame.

smutnut 06-24-2009 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 15992842)
I was reading all the answers in this thread made by guys who seem to be just theorizing about the girls in the adult business. I was getting my typing fingers ready to tell you guys the real deal about it...

But then Michael reached out his pimp hand and bitch slapped me by beating me to the punch. :1orglaugh

That is 100% correct Michael. You'd think that some of the people on GFY would have some knowledge of marketing, but in this thread it appears that only you and I do.

CM gets offers via email everyday. Most recently was an offer for her to go on a world cruise with a six figure payday for her time. She certainly wouldn't get these kind of offers if she wasn't a pornstar.

So it's not a case of either/or, but rather a symbiotic relationship between the two. If you gain some notoriety as a porn star and develop a big fan base, then you can make a lot more money at the strip club and/or you will get outrageous money offers for sex BECAUSE you are a pornstar and have some level of fame.

Like the OCTO MOM and BOBBIT and that BLACK CHICK that sucked off the movie star that should have been home fucking Elisabeth Hurley...

Robbie 06-24-2009 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smutnut (Post 15992918)
Like the OCTO MOM and BOBBIT and that BLACK CHICK that sucked off the movie star that should have been home fucking Elisabeth Hurley...

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
Actually...as sick as it is...yeah. :pimp

tranza 06-24-2009 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notime (Post 15991916)
They can watch it again later....

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA, sure!

pornlaw 06-24-2009 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 15992842)
I was reading all the answers in this thread made by guys who seem to be just theorizing about the girls in the adult business. I was getting my typing fingers ready to tell you guys the real deal about it...

But then Michael reached out his pimp hand and bitch slapped me by beating me to the punch. :1orglaugh

That is 100% correct Michael. You'd think that some of the people on GFY would have some knowledge of marketing, but in this thread it appears that only you and I do.

CM gets offers via email everyday. Most recently was an offer for her to go on a world cruise with a six figure payday for her time. She certainly wouldn't get these kind of offers if she wasn't a pornstar.

So it's not a case of either/or, but rather a symbiotic relationship between the two. If you gain some notoriety as a porn star and develop a big fan base, then you can make a lot more money at the strip club and/or you will get outrageous money offers for sex BECAUSE you are a pornstar and have some level of fame.

Since both of us have significant others that are pornstars we get an insiders look at how the industry works for the girls that do have a following.

I have a lot of strippers as well as escorts that contact me wanting to do scenes because they know it only helps their bottom line.

Its only a matter of time until a house dancer sees a feature performer at her club make $5000-$10,000 in a weekend to realize that that doing scenes means more money. And it is the same for an escort who learns that the guy she just charged $500 for an hour paid $1500 for the same sex acts a week before to a pornstar.

And I would never bitch slap you !!! :1orglaugh

czarina 06-24-2009 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frankie_gunn (Post 15991760)
They get to fuck hot young guys, and don't have to do it every day for the same amount of money.

was Ron Jeremy ever young and hot?

AaliyahLove 06-24-2009 02:19 PM

oh please..

smutnut 06-24-2009 02:28 PM

I can't believe anyone here is even "kind of" promoting prositution over porn. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Big Red Machine 06-24-2009 02:44 PM

Prostitutes do Porn for exposure, Pornstars do Prostitution to bank $......same coin

smutnut 06-24-2009 02:57 PM

First of all, if prostitution ever even starts to beat out porn, you are all unemployed. Everyone better pray there is a surplus of losers out there who would rather pay almost the same amount to jerk off to bullshit than add a buck or two and go out and get the real thing :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Robbie 06-24-2009 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smutnut (Post 15994292)
First of all, if prostitution ever even starts to beat out porn, you are all unemployed. Everyone better pray there is a surplus of losers out there who would rather pay almost the same amount to jerk off to bullshit than add a buck or two and go out and get the real thing :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

If you read what Michael said...it's not a case of prostitution vs. porn It's a case of prostitution and porn and stripping and signings and adult convention appearances and even mainstream t.v. and movie opportunities as well as magazines and music videos all go together. As long as a girl has the fame of being recognized as an adult star worldwide...she has opportunities to further monetize her fame.
Not choose one over another.

smutnut 06-24-2009 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 15994310)
If you read what Michael said...it's not a case of prostitution vs. porn It's a case of prostitution and porn and stripping and signings and adult convention appearances and even mainstream t.v. and movie opportunities as well as magazines and music videos all go together. As long as a girl has the fame of being recognized as an adult star worldwide...she has opportunities to further monetize her fame.
Not choose one over another.

Wow!

This is really making getting laid into a complex scientific and economic equation :Oh crap


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