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Juicy D. Links 08-08-2009 01:37 PM

Investors, momentum, and desperation
 
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...,803639.column

There's a "jump in window" when it comes to investing. Gauging it is a bitch though.

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EscortBiz 08-08-2009 01:41 PM

this rally will wipe out people who truly truly cant afford to be wiped out, avoid at all costs unless you are a day trader with serious experience

Mr. Billy 08-08-2009 01:46 PM

This is the time to get into the market. The actions the government has taken to strengthen the economy and prevent collapse take time to have any effect. They are beginning to take hold now and will continue to kick in over the next few months. If you wait until you see everyone else buy into the market you may pass up some great gains.

Juicy D. Links 08-08-2009 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by EscortBiz (Post 16162281)
this rally will wipe out people who truly truly cant afford to be wiped out, avoid at all costs unless you are a day trader with serious experience

When do you see the market tanking?

EscortBiz 08-08-2009 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links (Post 16162302)
When do you see the market tanking?

I know as much as the next guy, what I do know is that many people invest in the market because it sounds cool, I know many wealthy guys none made their money buying stocks as a private person (they only lost), yeah some people make a buck here and there kinda like vegas but at the end its a loss.

Now yes there are billionaire fund managers etc but dont think they base their stuff off basic research these guys have teams of PI's and other crap and they invest big lose big and win big.

Avg guy with 50,000 to invest even if the market goes up what are the chances all the stuff he purchased will go up? and if they do how much did they go up? and if they tank he will lose tons of cash.

Invest money you are perfectly ok with losing and only if you can stand to hold on to it a long time.

So the gov took actions and things are getting better, for example giving people money to buy new cars, ok great, what happens a year from now to the automakers? another bailout? another injection of cash for people to buy cars?

Home loans are in shambles, recent research shows that by 2011 about 50% of homeowners will be backed up on their home loan, you dont think that will fuck shit up?

http://www.housingwire.com/2009/08/0...water-in-2011/

Right now its about 20%

Unemployment because its summer is doing a bit better but again do you think we will be back to say 5.5% a year from now?

I mean look at real numbers.

Now is it possible this rally will continue a bit more, hell yeah, but what are the chances you will be able to pull out when it starts tanking.

Those are the things sane people would look at before joining the herd and start throwing money in the market.

L-Pink 08-08-2009 02:06 PM

EscortBiz .... nice post.

woj 08-08-2009 02:43 PM

As long as you are a long term investor you will be fine, the rally may continue, or it may dip a little, but as long as you are not looking to make a quick buck trying to time the market you will be fine... :2 cents:

EscortBiz 08-08-2009 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by woj (Post 16162446)
As long as you are a long term investor you will be fine, the rally may continue, or it may dip a little, but as long as you are not looking to make a quick buck trying to time the market you will be fine... :2 cents:

long term investor can be dangerous too as many so called solid companies will be gone as in history in the coming years yet now seem like a staple in everyone's portfolio, avoid those in the newspaper business, blockbuster, any company that relies on offline advertising radio stations etc, unless piracy laws are passed most big movie production companies will be destroyed, retail chains that sell items people can buy online cheaper (old populaion keeping them alive and the part of the population that dont feel comfortable buying online, old dieing and more and more people feel more comfortable ordering online) barnes and noble, banks with tons of big branch locations wont be able to compete with the online banks, again the old people are keeping these big banks open as the young population dont go to the banks much and are ok banking with online banks with better CD rates etc. (thats why there are so many holdups in banks, who will stop you the people in line with canes? who will run after you the people in wheelchairs?) telecom companies that rely on landline service, internet companies that dont offer and or dont have plans to offer fiber etc etc

anyway my point is think long term the world is changing and changing fast.

L-Pink 08-08-2009 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by EscortBiz (Post 16162481)
unless piracy laws are passed most big movie production companies will be destroyed

:2 cents:


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