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brassmonkey 09-15-2009 10:06 PM

Jimmy Carter: Wilson comments 'based on racism'
 
fuck all the racist!! :mad: :321GFY

ATLANTA ? Former President Jimmy Carter said Tuesday that U.S. Rep. Joe Wilson's outburst to President Barack Obama during a speech to Congress last week was an act "based on racism" and rooted in fears of a black president.

"I think it's based on racism," Carter said in response to an audience question at a town hall held at his presidential center in Atlanta. "There is an inherent feeling among many in this country that an African-American should not be president."

The Georgia Democrat said the outburst was a part of a disturbing trend directed at the president that has included demonstrators equating Obama to Nazi leaders.

"Those kind of things are not just casual outcomes of a sincere debate on whether we should have a national program on health care," he said. "It's deeper than that."

Wilson, a South Carolina Republican, was formally rebuked Tuesday in a House vote for shouting "You lie!" during Obama's speech to Congress last Wednesday.

The shout came after the president commented that illegal aliens would be ineligible for federal subsidies to buy health insurance. Republicans expressed their disbelief with sounds of disapproval, punctuated by Wilson's outburst.

Tuesday's rebuke was a rare resolution of disapproval pushed through by Democrats who insisted that Wilson had violated basic rules of decorum and civility. Republicans characterized the measure as a witch hunt and Wilson, who had already apologized to Obama, insisted he owed the House no apology.

Wilson's spokesman was not immediately available for comment, but his eldest son defended his father.

"There is not a racist bone in my dad's body," said Alan Wilson, an Iraq veteran who is running for state attorney general. "He doesn't even laugh at distasteful jokes. I won't comment on former President Carter, because I don't know President Carter. But I know my dad, and it's just not in him."

"It's unfortunate people make that jump. People can disagree ? and appropriately disagree ? on issues of substance, but when they make the jump to race it's absolutely ludicrous. My brothers and I were raised by our parents to respect everyone regardless of background or race."

South Carolina's former Democratic Party chairman said that he doesn't believe Wilson was motivated by racism, but said the outburst encouraged racist views.

"I think Joe's conduct was asinine, but I think it would be asinine no matter what the color of the president," said Dick Harpootlian, who has known Wilson for decades. "I don't think Joe's outburst was caused by President Obama being African-American. I think it was caused by no filter being between his brain and his mouth."

Harpootlian said he received scores of racial e-mails from outside South Carolina after he talked about the vote on Fox News.

"You have a bunch of folks out there looking for some comfort in their racial issues. They have a problem with an African-American president," he said. "But was he motivated by that? I don't think so. I respectfully disagree with President Carter, though it gives validity to racism."

Carter called Wilson's comment "dastardly" and an aftershock of racist views that have permeated American politics for decades.

"The president is not only the head of government, he is the head of state," he said. "And no matter who he is or how much we disagree with his policies, the president should be treated with respect."

kush 09-15-2009 10:13 PM

The race card is played way too often.

buck30 09-15-2009 10:13 PM

yea, some fucking rep from atlanta area started this today. hmmm liar, racist...

bunch of fucking retards

anything to keep attention from important matters..
wasnt carter a peanut farmer?

brassmonkey 09-15-2009 10:16 PM

calling obama a nazi over health care are u fuckin crazy

brassmonkey 09-15-2009 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kush (Post 16324390)
The race card is played way too often.

what other president have u heard called a damn nazi :helpme

abadfish 09-15-2009 10:19 PM

I also think the race card is played for too often. Although I also think that race fuels a lot of the criticism regarding president obama. Not just his outside appearance but also his muslim roots.

I know that if he was white there would be a lot less opposition.

EthnicLover 09-15-2009 10:26 PM

Jimmy Carter is the only white politician (he used to be one) willing to speak the truth on this issue.

brassmonkey 09-15-2009 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abadfish (Post 16324408)
I also think the race card is played for too often. Although I also think that race fuels a lot of the criticism regarding president obama. Not just his outside appearance but also his muslim roots.

I know that if he was white there would be a lot less opposition.

well said but fuck a race card there's still people being killed here because of color

Playing the race card is an idiomatic phrase that refers to the act of bringing the issue of race or racism into a debate, perhaps to obfuscate the matter. It is a metaphorical reference to card games in which a trump card may be used to gain an advantage. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_card
racist use the term :2 cents:

PurrrsianPussyKat 09-15-2009 10:30 PM

Good old jimmy and his lust filled heart!

brassmonkey 09-15-2009 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PurrrsianPussyKat (Post 16324430)
Good old jimmy and his lust filled heart!

are u huffin paint :1orglaugh what are u talking about

TheDoc 09-16-2009 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 16324403)
what other president have u heard called a damn nazi :helpme

The one that took away civil rights/freedoms, extremely lied to Americans to start a war, allowed war crimes to happen, and the list goes on.

Vs..

Obama wanting to provide healthcare for people that need it.....

Joe King 09-16-2009 12:12 AM

Jimmy Carter is still alive? Seriously?

PurrrsianPussyKat 09-16-2009 05:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 16324435)
are u huffin paint :1orglaugh what are u talking about

I guess you never read playboy for the articles! :thumbsup

Because I'm just human and I'm tempted and Christ set some almost impossible standards for us. The Bible says, "Thou shalt not commit adultery." Christ said, I tell you that anyone who looks on a woman with lust has in his heart already committed adultery. I've looked on a lot of women with lust. I've committed adultery in my heart many times.... This is something that God recognizes, that I will do and have done, and God forgives me for it. But that doesn't mean that I condemn someone who not only looks on a woman with lust but who leaves his wife and shacks up with somebody out of wedlock. Christ says, don't consider yourself better than someone else because one guy screws a whole bunch of women while the other guy is loyal to his wife. The guy who's loyal to his wife ought not to be condescending or proud because of the relative degree of sinfulness

http://www.arts.mcgill.ca/history/fa...yInterview.htm

brassmonkey 09-16-2009 05:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PurrrsianPussyKat (Post 16325207)
I guess you never read playboy for the articles! :thumbsup

Because I'm just human and I'm tempted and Christ set some almost impossible standards for us. The Bible says, "Thou shalt not commit adultery." Christ said, I tell you that anyone who looks on a woman with lust has in his heart already committed adultery. I've looked on a lot of women with lust. I've committed adultery in my heart many times.... This is something that God recognizes, that I will do and have done, and God forgives me for it. But that doesn't mean that I condemn someone who not only looks on a woman with lust but who leaves his wife and shacks up with somebody out of wedlock. Christ says, don't consider yourself better than someone else because one guy screws a whole bunch of women while the other guy is loyal to his wife. The guy who's loyal to his wife ought not to be condescending or proud because of the relative degree of sinfulness

http://www.arts.mcgill.ca/history/fa...yInterview.htm

so the fuck what :)

PurrrsianPussyKat 09-16-2009 05:25 AM

You asked me what I was talking about. So I edjumacated you! :winkwink:

Fletch XXX 09-16-2009 05:33 AM

funny thing is Joe Wilson wife asked him "who was the idiot who yelled out "YOU LIE" at Obama... when he got home that night LOL

it was him. Bet he felt like even more an idiot...

brassmonkey 09-16-2009 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PurrrsianPussyKat (Post 16325234)
You asked me what I was talking about. So I edjumacated you! :winkwink:

go fuck yourself :)

brassmonkey 09-16-2009 05:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 16325248)
funny thing is Joe Wilson wife asked him "who was the idiot who yelled out "YOU LIE" at Obama... when he got home that night LOL

it was him. Bet he felt like even more an idiot...

hahahahaha!!! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh damn im hoping people will get past the race and fix the damn problems give obama the chance and respect that past presidents have had. :thumbsup

u-Bob 09-16-2009 06:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 16324403)
what other president have u heard called a damn nazi :helpme

..... Bush?

u-Bob 09-16-2009 06:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 16324680)
The one that took away civil rights/freedoms, extremely lied to Americans to start a war, allowed war crimes to happen, and the list goes on.

* took away civil rights/freedoms
Obama voted for the Patriot Act

* extremely lied to Americans to start a war
Obama refuses to investigate these lies. Obama continues those wars. Obama lies about troop withdrawals in iraq (redrawing the city lines is not the same as withdrawing your troops form that city),...

* allowed war crimes to happen
Obama allows "rendition" (kidnapping people and shipping them to some 3rd world country to be tortured there)

WebCompanyInc 09-16-2009 06:49 AM

I am a white southern man and I will be completely honest here, The answer is yes. Yes the majority of president Obama's opposition is rooted in racism.

I know it, my dad knows it, my mother knows it and anyone with an IQ greater than 1 knows it. The only people we know who don't know it are black people. They have given us the benefit of doubt althoug it is not deserved among some sub group's within our culture.

Watching television, one thing jumps out at me right away, these people protesting Obama solely based on his race are the uneducated, the unlucky, the unpretty, the unwanted,

the lower people

Racist often times or actually most always belong to one of these unfortunate groups of people.

I nor my family do no not. And it shames us that we are associated with these neantherthalls as a result of us sharing the same skin color. White

So yes, I will admit right here today that Carter is correct.

I have a B.A. my dad has his M.A. and my brother attends Columbia University now

We are educated, attractive and happy with ourselves and our lives. Thus we have no need to be racist.


My only wish is that while watching us from the outside, that the world realize that these people do not represent me or my family nor the majority of the white race.

Although I did vote for President Obama, he is my President and we love and respect him 100 percent.

-- Nicholas Chambers

brassmonkey 09-16-2009 07:05 AM

damn well said Mr. Chambers :thumbsup
Quote:

Originally Posted by WebCompanyInc (Post 16325492)
I am a white southern man and I will be completely honest here, The answer is yes. Yes the majority of president Obama's opposition is rooted in racism.

I know it, my dad knows it, my mother knows it and anyone with an IQ greater than 1 knows it. The only people we know who don't know it are black people. They have given us the benefit of doubt althoug it is not deserved among some sub group's within our culture.

Watching television, one thing jumps out at me right away, these people protesting Obama solely based on his race are the uneducated, the unlucky, the unpretty, the unwanted,

the lower people

Racist often times or actually most always belong to one of these unfortunate groups of people.

I nor my family do no not. And it shames us that we are associated with these neantherthalls as a result of us sharing the same skin color. White

So yes, I will admit right here today that Carter is correct.

I have a B.A. my dad has his M.A. and my brother attends Columbia University now

We are educated, attractive and happy with ourselves and our lives. Thus we have no need to be racist.


My only wish is that while watching us from the outside, that the world realize that these people do not represent me or my family nor the majority of the white race.

Although I did vote for President Obama, he is my President and we love and respect him 100 percent.

-- Nicholas Chambers


cykoe6 09-16-2009 07:09 AM

Of course anyone who does not agree with the messiahs big government schemes is a racist. It is soooo obvious. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

LiveDose 09-16-2009 07:20 AM

I didn't vote for Obama, I don't agree with most of his policies and I hope he's a one termer.

If you want to call me I racist I could give fuck.

ShellyCrash 09-16-2009 07:22 AM

Jimmy Carter has dissapointed me.

I'm quite sure that having a black president can be very unnerving for more than a few members of congress as well as entire segments of the country's population. And while it is entirely possible that race may have been a factor in the internal motivations that caused Wilson to shout "You Lie!" at the president, shouting those words is not in itself racist.

To bring race into the arguement on this particular issue only helps to stir comments like this:

Quote:

Originally Posted by cykoe6 (Post 16325537)
Of course anyone who does not agree with the messiahs big government schemes is a racist.

:disgust

Democrats as a whole, just need to play this shit stronger. One thing I will give to republican administrations- when someone talks shit about them they just don't acknowledge it.

Someone overheard Obama call Kanye West a Jackass, so fucking what? He wasn't picked up on a mic, it's fucking hearsay, don't acknowledge it.

My message to the democratic party- No applogies. No fucking excuses. Just do the damn job and quit trying to grease the squeaky wheels, you're wasting time and just giving them more fodder.

brassmonkey 09-16-2009 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiveDose (Post 16325572)
I didn't vote for Obama, I don't agree with most of his policies and I hope he's a one termer.

If you want to call me I racist I could give fuck.

haha that doesnt make you a racist the man yelled out in protest when obama his president was giving a speech. I dont know if he is a racist but he doesnt respect his superior.

brassmonkey 09-16-2009 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cykoe6 (Post 16325537)
Of course anyone who does not agree with the messiahs big government schemes is a racist. It is soooo obvious. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

your a russian :helpme

GatorB 09-16-2009 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kush (Post 16324390)
The race card is played way too often.

Let's face it there IS in fact a sizable % of Americans who hate Obama just because he's black.

FACT

# whites that hate Obama only beause he's black > # of blacks that hated Bush only because he's white

TheDoc 09-16-2009 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 16325326)
* took away civil rights/freedoms
Obama voted for the Patriot Act

Aye, of course he did... Bush was equal to hitler, and with hitler in power you do as your told or you get cut off.

... and we know it happened if you didn't agree.


Quote:

Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 16325326)
* extremely lied to Americans to start a war
Obama refuses to investigate these lies. Obama continues those wars. Obama lies about troop withdrawals in iraq (redrawing the city lines is not the same as withdrawing your troops form that city),...

Well yeah, if Obama was to go after bush, what would the right be doing and saying then? What type of image would he leave for our Country?

Personally, I wouldn't touch Bush either, it just isn't worth taking your Country down because of one douche bag.

Obama didn't say in 6 months I would pull everyone out of Iraq. Obama isn't lieing about pulling troops out of Iraq, huge amounts of have been moved. And they shouldn't all be gone yet.

And people don't have a problem with Afgan, they had a problem with Iraq. And "fighting" in Iraq. Most people understand we can't just up and leave, but the 'war' is over.


Quote:

Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 16325326)
* allowed war crimes to happen
Obama allows "rendition" (kidnapping people and shipping them to some 3rd world country to be tortured there)

The Difference? With Bush he was so deep into the shit, other Countries reported on it. So much so, other Countries consider Bush to be a war criminal.

At this point, the world isn't bitching about Obama's war crimes, hell not even Google returns anything worthy. Probably because he hasn't done anything worth talking about.

cykoe6 09-16-2009 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 16324680)
The one that took away civil rights/freedoms, extremely lied to Americans to start a war, allowed war crimes to happen, and the list goes on.

Vs..

Obama wanting to provide healthcare for people that need it.....

In summary........ demonizing a Republican president and calling him a Nazi because you disagree with his policies is patriotic and a legitimate form of protest........ demonizing a Democratic president and calling him a Nazi because you disagree with his policies is racist and un-American.

Everyone got that?

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 16325602)
your a russian :helpme

Actually I am a Colorodoan. I had some Russian in my sig so people have incorrectly assumed I was a Russian. Now I have some Latin my sig so I guess people will start assuming I am a Roman. :1orglaugh

TheDoc 09-16-2009 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cykoe6 (Post 16325675)
In summary........ demonizing a Republican president and calling him a Nazi because you disagree with his policies is patriotic and a legitimate form of protest........ demonizing a Democratic president and calling him a Nazi because you disagree with his policies is racist and un-American.

Everyone got that?

Are you stupid? This has nothing to do with protests.. I 100% support any protesters.

I don't support stupidity... and it doesn't make a shit which side of the fence it's on.


I'm not demonizing Bush, the American people and the World did that for me. People didn't call Bush - Hitler because they disagreed with him, they called him Hitleri because he did 'exactly' what the Nazi's did. Even the name of the bills were the related.


People are calling Obama a Nazi because they 'disagree' with him, but can you explain how Obama is like the Nazi leader?

brassmonkey 09-16-2009 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cykoe6 (Post 16325675)
In summary........ demonizing a Republican president and calling him a Nazi because you disagree with his policies is patriotic and a legitimate form of protest........ demonizing a Democratic president and calling him a Nazi because you disagree with his policies is racist and un-American.

Everyone got that?



Actually I am a Colorodoan. I had some Russian in my sig so people have incorrectly assumed I was a Russian. Now I have some Latin my sig so I guess people will start assuming I am a Roman. :1orglaugh

that explains it the rocky mountains :disgust

cykoe6 09-16-2009 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 16325690)
I'm not demonizing Bush, the American people and the World did that for me. People didn't call Bush - Hitler because they disagreed with him, they called him Hitleri because he did 'exactly' what the Nazi's did. Even the name of the bills were the related.


People are calling Obama a Nazi because they 'disagree' with him, but can you explain how Obama is like the Nazi leader?


I know it is hard for you to understand this...... but some people supported Bush's polices for fighting the war against the Islamic extremists and many of these same people actively oppose Obama's attempts to dramatically increase the size and scope of the federal governments involvement in the economy.

I know in the mind of the leftist it is inconceivable that certain people cannot grasp the obvious "truth" that we need Obama's progressive big government agenda....... while at the same time it is even more inconceivable that certain people support Bush's security polices (which ironically are still being used by the Obama administration)...... but it is still the case.

Some of us stubborn right wing reactionaries just cannot get with the program. I guess it is because we are all racists.

What can be done about these dangerous right wing racists and their un-progressive ideas? :helpme

brassmonkey 09-16-2009 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cykoe6 (Post 16325732)
I know it is hard for you to understand this...... but some people supported Bush's polices for fighting the war against the Islamic extremists and many of these same people actively oppose Obama's attempts to dramatically increase the size and scope of the federal governments involvement in the economy.

I know in the mind of the leftist it is inconceivable that certain people cannot grasp the obvious "truth" that we need Obama's progressive big government agenda....... while at the same time it is even more inconceivable that certain people support Bush's security polices (which ironically are still being used by the Obama administration)...... but it is still the case.

Some of us stubborn right wing reactionaries just cannot get with the program. I guess it is because we are all racists.

What can be done about these dangerous right wing racists and their un-progressive ideas? :helpme

:thumbsup

TheDoc 09-16-2009 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cykoe6 (Post 16325732)
I know it is hard for you to understand this...... but some people supported Bush's polices for fighting the war against the Islamic extremists and many of these same people actively oppose Obama's attempts to dramatically increase the size and scope of the federal governments involvement in the economy.

We aren't talking about a war against Islamic Extremists, most people support that.

The Majority of people, did not and still do not, support the Iraq War. Right and left.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cykoe6 (Post 16325732)
I know in the mind of the leftist it is inconceivable that certain people cannot grasp the obvious "truth" that we need Obama's progressive big government agenda....... while at the same time it is even more inconceivable that certain people support Bush's security polices (which ironically are still being used by the Obama administration)...... but it is still the case.

Aye, that's how it normally happens. Most presidents don't come in and undo everything the other presidents did. Overtime things change, but it isn't like it just happens.

Again, the twisted argument isn't about 'Bush's security policies.'

When a republican president wants to grow the Military, even during peace time. Why isn't that considered growing the Government?

Just wondering, what has Obama done to grow the Government, that other presidents haven't done? Say, like Bush?

Watch what you say now, bailouts, auto industry, banks, markets, etc... all done by other Presidents too.


Quote:

Originally Posted by cykoe6 (Post 16325732)
Some of us stubborn right wing reactionaries just cannot get with the program. I guess it is because we are all racists.

I guess so.


Quote:

Originally Posted by cykoe6 (Post 16325732)
What can be done about these dangerous right wing racists and their un-progressive ideas? :helpme

Who said something should be done about them?

It's at the point now were we just laugh at them....

Tom_PM 09-16-2009 08:39 AM

What would Kanye do?

Actually I think people should pick their battles and I think Carter talks too much, just like he did about palestine/israel back during the election campaigns. In other words, while it MAY be true as true, it was and is not necessary to engage that conversation now for ANOTHER day (or more) of distraction from the issue!

ShellyCrash 09-16-2009 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShellyCrash (Post 16325579)
Someone overheard Obama call Kanye West a Jackass, so fucking what? He wasn't picked up on a mic, it's fucking hearsay, don't acknowledge it.


I stand corrected:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=XdEBCnzqe18

GatorB 09-16-2009 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 16325822)
What would Kanye do?

Actually I think people should pick their battles and I think Carter talks too much, just like he did about palestine/israel back during the election campaigns. In other words, while it MAY be true as true, it was and is not necessary to engage that conversation now for ANOTHER day (or more) of distraction from the issue!

Carter is 85 fricken years old. And last time I checked MOST 85 year old men spout off and say shit they probably shouldn't. Just goes with the terriotry.

Tom_PM 09-16-2009 08:55 AM

Yeah I agree, GatorB. I think he may not be savvy enough to understand why someone might want an interview or comment on a topic. All it's doing now is getting all the news people to talk about crazy old man.

Sarah_Jayne 09-16-2009 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 16324403)
what other president have u heard called a damn nazi :helpme

Rush Limbaugh pointed the world at Bill an Hillary must of his presidency. He just 'cuted' it up my making it feminazis and stuff like that.

Anyway, I have a huge amount of respect for Jimmy Carter and most for what he has done since being president.

PurrrsianPussyKat 09-16-2009 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 16325277)
go fuck yourself :)

:1orglaugh

You sure you're not the one huffing paint? :thumbsup

baddog 09-16-2009 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 16324403)
what other president have u heard called a damn nazi :helpme

You don't have a very good memory, do you? I guess it is just selective. Are you a chick?

PurrrsianPussyKat 09-16-2009 10:12 AM

Obama's the first baddog! ;)

http://viralpolitics.com/wp-content/...azi_hitler.jpg

baddog 09-16-2009 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 16324435)
are u huffin paint :1orglaugh what are u talking about

Must be pretty young too.

brassmonkey 09-16-2009 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 16326406)
You don't have a very good memory, do you? I guess it is just selective. Are you a chick?

nevermind

Daddy Big Nuts 09-16-2009 10:21 AM

Jimmy Carter was one of the worst Presidents ever. His credibility is barely above ZERO.

dyna mo 09-16-2009 10:22 AM

no one took carter seriously when he was president, not sure why anyone should now.

baddog 09-16-2009 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WebCompanyInc (Post 16325492)
We are educated, attractive and happy with ourselves and our lives. Thus we have no need to be racist.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

baddog 09-16-2009 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PurrrsianPussyKat (Post 16326412)

Everyone always loved all our white presidents.

</sarcasm> added for brassmonkey

brassmonkey 09-16-2009 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daddy Big Nuts (Post 16326438)
Jimmy Carter was one of the worst Presidents ever. His credibility is barely above ZERO.

im sure u voted for bush :1orglaugh well i have to work its been nice chatting have a good 1


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