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Glenn Beck 09-22-2009 10:42 PM

Do You Consider Yourself To Be A Socialist?
 
Are you now, or have you ever been, a member of the Socialist Party?

Owner 09-22-2009 10:45 PM

Did you rape and murder a woman? Are you an alcoholic?

Glenn Beck 09-22-2009 11:20 PM

I would appreciate honest answers. I am very interested in how infested this industry is with Socialists.

Cherry7 09-23-2009 01:15 AM

"infested" glad to see you have an open mind...

Do you have a definition on socialism in mind?

Marx, the Webbs, Lenin, Blair ?

pimpware 09-23-2009 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherry7 (Post 16351265)
"infested" glad to see you have an open mind...

Do you have a definition on socialism in mind?

Looks like he has the USA definition of socialism :1orglaugh


It's like football ... in the US it's a totally different thing

CaptainHowdy 09-23-2009 06:37 AM

I'm a maoist...

StuartD 09-23-2009 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by pimpware (Post 16351327)
Looks like he has the USA definition of socialism :1orglaugh

Yup, the rest of the free world sees universal health care as a great way to take care of some of it's own people.
The US sees it as a tool of dead evil dictators still bent on world domination by means of curing the cold of an uninsured neighbour. Those bastards!

MaDalton 09-23-2009 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by pimpware (Post 16351327)
Looks like he has the USA definition of socialism :1orglaugh


It's like football ... in the US it's a totally different thing

yeah, i was going to say that. according to the US definition of socialism we all are probably. so, guilty as charged, i like things like health insurance, unemployment insurance or welfare because everyone might need help at some point. i only say: fight those who misuse it.

nation-x 09-23-2009 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 16351834)
yeah, i was going to say that. according to the US definition of socialism we all are probably. so, guilty as charged, i like things like health insurance, unemployment insurance or welfare because everyone might need help at some point. i only say: fight those who misuse it.

:2 cents: I voted yes.

mikeyddddd 09-23-2009 07:28 AM


BestXXXPorn 09-23-2009 07:41 AM

I'm a Libertarian, definitely not a Socialist or even hold any Socialist ideals...

I've found today's America to be littered with people who hold Socialist ideals... very few people actually consider themselves Socialists but they certainly support and promote their ideals... At what point should a person be considered a Socialist anyway?

What % of their ideals need to be aligned with Socialism in order to be considered a Socialist?

Or does it come down to a few key points? Like, believing it's the government's job to redistribute wealth...

Cherry7 09-23-2009 08:01 AM

Socialism as a system where the wealth of a country is democratically controlled for the benifit of all its citizens and not for the private greed of the top 5%.

The old slogan of "from each according to ability, to each according to needs" would apply.

The nature of production would also change from production for profit to production for need, culture, education or pleasure. Taking into account the other costs that capitalists ignore such as CO2 emissions or whether it is benifical to the society as a whole.

Glenn Beck 09-23-2009 10:04 AM

Interesting to see the amount of Socialist infiltration in this industry

DaddyHalbucks 09-23-2009 10:17 AM

You are seeing the effects of our increasing socialism in our current economy. Do you like it?

nation-x 09-23-2009 10:39 AM

I voted yes because the US is Socio-Capitalist and has been ever since The New Deal.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_capitalism
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Social capitalism, as a theory or political or philosophical stance, challenges the idea that socialism and capitalism are inherently antagonistic. The essence of social capitalism is that markets work best and output is maximized through sound social management of the macroeconomy. Social capitalism posits that a strong social support network for the poor enhances capital output. By decreasing poverty, capital market participation is enlarged. Social capitalism also posits that government regulation, and even sponsorship of markets, can lead to superior economic outcomes, as evidenced in government sponsorship of the internet or basic securities regulation.
Almost all Democrats are Socio-Capitalists.

StuartD 09-23-2009 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 16352623)
You are seeing the effects of our increasing socialism in our current economy. Do you like it?

And here I thought it had to do with a mortgage collapse and costly wars. How foolish of me.

nation-x 09-23-2009 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by StuartD (Post 16352759)
And here I thought it had to do with a mortgage collapse and costly wars. How foolish of me.

You know... I have been putting alot of thought into the corporate/right wing propaganda machine lately. It has occurred to me that they were successful in placing the blame for the financial collapse on bad mortgages when this is really a smoke screen for what really occurred. The real truth is that in 1999-2000 right before Bush took office the Republican controlled Congress passed the "Commodity Futures Modernization Act" that Clinton signed into law (obviously without reading the fucking bill).

At the beginning of the 20th century, Bucket Shops lined NYC's streets. These Bucket Shops were, essentially, casinos where people could bet on whether the stock market would go up or down. It's called "speculating," when you can bet on something where you don't own any involved party. For example, if I bet on Microsoft stock doing well, I do it by buying the stock. Now I own part of the company. If I'm betting on a football game, though, I don't own the Jets or Cowboys (yet), so I've got no horse in that race. That bet is called "speculation" and a "derivative."

Well, at the turn of the century, these Bucket Shops were hugely popular, and they are linked, directly, to the extent of the 1907 market crash. Lawmakers were appalled at Bucket Shops' influence, and they passed state laws that, essentially, said, "This can never happen again." States made Bucket Shops, or any venue where you speculate on the economy, a felony.

Time went by, and we evolved into the current system of government, drenched with lobbying and love for big business -- the administration and Congress. Congress rolled back the Bucket Shop laws in a bill called The Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000, which pulled derivatives and credit default swaps from federal oversite. It also clearly laid out that states couldn't enforce Bucket Shop laws. Done. Of course, the financial businesses were big backers of this bill, throwing millions at lobbyists to make it happen. And it did happen. Gambling and speculation on the economy was legal again! That is your government looking after you. Free market mentality at it's best.

So who was responsible for fucking us? Everyone! It was a truly bipartisan bill.

Dems voting Yes: 186
Reps voting Yes: 193
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=h2000-540

Btw... since the bailout AIG has allegedly traded up to $50 Trillion in derivatives.... and the current market value of the derivatives market is $513 Trillion... think about that for a minute in perspective with the total value of US Real Estate (housing) - $14 Trillion.

kowalsky 09-23-2009 11:06 AM

I consider myself socialist, however I never joint to the socialist party...

ContentSHOOTER 09-23-2009 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Glenn Beck (Post 16350939)
Are you now, or have you ever been, a member of the Socialist Party?

FUCK OFF YOU DOUCHE BAG:disgust

2012 09-23-2009 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glenn Beck (Post 16350939)
Are you now, or have you ever been, a member of the Socialist Party?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Chosen 09-23-2009 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeyddddd (Post 16351964)

:1orglaugh

SimonScans 09-23-2009 01:47 PM

There are no socialists, only communists, and I am NOT one of them.

PurrrsianPussyKat 09-23-2009 01:56 PM

What I'd like to know is.. How did you spend the $23 million you made last year while the gov't was holding you back? :winkwink:

Oh, and why did you tell katie couric that Obama was the better choice for president, even though you bust his balls every night?

Glenn Beck 09-23-2009 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by PurrrsianPussyKat (Post 16353602)
Oh, and why did you tell katie couric that Obama was the better choice for president, even though you bust his balls every night?

A choice between bad and worst does not make the bad choice a great one by default.

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Cherry7 09-23-2009 03:22 PM

The US is a communist society in a way, in the sense that for the top richest 10% of the society they live in a communist society. They have all their material desires forfiled. They can travel, eat what they want, their children have the best education, and best health care.

This is also brought about by massive state support in the form of tax breaks for the rich, State funding for military and space industries.

With Credit Cards they even don't use money.

The problem is the other 95% of the pop who still live in the capitalism of poverty, unemployment, poor wages, bad diet, and no health care....

The problem for revolutionary communists like me and Obama is how to give communism to the 6 billlion humans on this planet.

My plan is to distroy the US porn industry from within by making erotic films that make porn a poor 2nd best.

Obama's plan I'm not sure about.

J. Falcon 09-23-2009 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Glenn Beck (Post 16350939)
Are you now, or have you ever been, a member of the Socialist Party?

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