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Fletch XXX 10-01-2009 09:45 AM

why is it ok to have copywritten images from movies in your sig but tubes are bad?
 
just asking

BlackCrayon 10-01-2009 09:47 AM

If you want to be silly and go that far you have names in your sig that are tm'ed.

BVF 10-01-2009 09:48 AM

same reason it was ok to have thumbnails of copywritten content..

Tom_PM 10-01-2009 09:50 AM

Do you mean like, will someone in the afterlife judge them the same? or Karma be out of balance for each equally? Maybe!

Both are bad. One is just maybe millions of times worse.

TheDoc 10-01-2009 10:04 AM

Ok if not the avatars... how about the music videos, most of the satire videos, image shack photos, posting of motivational pictures with copyrighted content in them, hot linking of photos from google images, the sounds used in advertising here and other forums, funny pic/hot girls of myspace type threads... and I can go on for hours.

I agree, it's only bad when it's mine...

MetaMan 10-01-2009 10:05 AM

Go eat some vegetables faggot.

Agent 488 10-01-2009 10:07 AM

anyone who thinks there is any sort of ethical equivalence is a complete fucking idiot.

Fletch XXX 10-01-2009 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 16378461)
If you want to be silly and go that far

:1orglaugh yeah im not rly srs the internet was made for animations and free pr0n

Fletch XXX 10-01-2009 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 16378531)
anyone who thinks there is any sort of ethical equivalence is a complete fucking idiot.

all bout dem views dogg

CaptainHowdy 10-01-2009 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 16378531)
anyone who thinks there is any sort of ethical equivalence is a complete fucking idiot.

There we go...

Barefootsies 10-01-2009 10:17 AM

You never miss an opportunity to bring this issue up over the years Hollywood.

We get it. You don't approve.

:2 cents:

dyna mo 10-01-2009 10:18 AM

why do you care? you are still here on the board that supports the tubes and hanging out with posters with illegal images in their sigs.

Fletch XXX 10-01-2009 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 16378588)
You never miss an opportunity to bring this issue up over the years Hollywood.

We get it. You don't approve.

:2 cents:

? you misunderstanding me, i encourage everyone to make avatars and sigs from movies, you mistake me homie

Fletch XXX 10-01-2009 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 16378592)
why do you care?

i dont. but i sure know how to stir a bees nest with a thread title LOL :1orglaugh

Nautilus 10-01-2009 10:21 AM

Because it's fair use (well, mostly), and because it's not our money at stake.

Barefootsies 10-01-2009 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 16378594)
? you misunderstanding me, i encourage everyone to make avatars and sigs from movies, you mistake me homie

You are changing your position on this issue now?!? Whaaaaa

Flip flopping FletchXXX

:winkwink:

Fletch XXX 10-01-2009 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 16378606)
You are changing your position on this issue now?!? Whaaaaa

Flip flopping FletchXXX

:winkwink:

huh? ive always jut pointed at hypocrisy i never said it was illegal to make an avatar from a music video, ive done it on GFY! lol :1orglaugh

dyna mo 10-01-2009 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 16378599)
i dont. but i sure know how to stir a bees nest with a thread title LOL :1orglaugh

well, that's one way to advertise your banner design biz.

good luck eh.

Fletch XXX 10-01-2009 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nautilus (Post 16378605)
Because it's fair use (well, mostly), and because it's not our money at stake.

yeah fuck hollywood, do they even make movies worth buying?

wanna trade DVD copies of anime with me? :winkwink:

Fletch XXX 10-01-2009 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 16378616)
well, that's one way to advertise your banner design biz.

good luck eh.

i dont post here for any reason other than to make money, when i need entertainment i find that in the night with the freaks and addicts LOL :1orglaugh

Barefootsies 10-01-2009 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 16378612)
ive always jut pointed at hypocrisy

ive done it on GFY!

:winkwink:

TheDoc 10-01-2009 10:26 AM

You people and your double standards, ethics and bullshit moral values that only turn on when it's about you.

Piracy is Piracy whether done for profit, duty or fun.

alias 10-01-2009 10:27 AM

YO YO Fletch! I told u to stop making sense posts ago.. .

flip.green 10-01-2009 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 16378470)
or Karma be out of balance for each equally?.

Karma still owes me for stealing my bike when i was a kid :2 cents:

Fletch XXX 10-01-2009 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 16378628)
:winkwink:

i havent made many avatars for gfy but trying to recall what i did PIRATE, was a screengrab from psycho Killer vid from Talking Heads. Byrne is gonna sue my ass


Barefootsies 10-01-2009 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 16378631)
You people and your double standards, ethics and bullshit moral values that only turn on when it's about you.

Piracy is Piracy whether done for profit, duty or fun.


:2 cents:

alias 10-01-2009 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 16378661)

teh lulz

k and sly no offense but this shit is funny

Sly 10-01-2009 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alias (Post 16378679)
teh lulz

k and sly no offense but this shit is funny

LOL what does this have to do with me?

Nautilus 10-01-2009 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 16378618)
yeah fuck hollywood, do they even make movies worth buying?

wanna trade DVD copies of anime with me? :winkwink:

I don't care about Hollywood, protecting their content is their problem. Our problem is to protect OUR content, because WE make money out of it.

Some minor infringments do probably occasionally happen here, but nothing even close to what illegal tubes are doing to us.

SmokeyTheBear 10-01-2009 10:52 AM

I dont think anyone said either of them are "ok" but obviously they are vastly different.

i.e. Beating a mosquito to death is accepted
Beating a dog to death is "cruelty to animals"

TheDoc 10-01-2009 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 16378729)
I dont think anyone said either of them are "ok" but obviously they are vastly different.

i.e. Beating a mosquito to death is accepted
Beating a dog to death is "cruelty to animals"

Smokey, maybe you can explain it to me..

If I upload a music video to youtube.... how is that any different if I upload some other companies porn video to a tube?

It's not like it has to be posted here, but once it is... we kind of anchor it in.

Honestly, I'm confused..

ShellyCrash 10-01-2009 11:03 AM

"Cat Bite- The Movie!"

Hentaikid 10-01-2009 11:12 AM

It's copy RIGHT and copyrighted, writing copy is a completely different thing.

Jdoughs 10-01-2009 11:14 AM

If tube8 was full of 'screengrabs' or gif's (less then 100kb in size), nobody would complain about them either.

Sly 10-01-2009 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jdoughs (Post 16378802)
If tube8 was full of 'screengrabs' or gif's (less then 100kb in size), nobody would complain about them either.

Solo girls and dating sites.

BVF 10-01-2009 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 16378770)
Smokey, maybe you can explain it to me..

If I upload a music video to youtube.... how is that any different if I upload some other companies porn video to a tube?..

Youtube either takes the video down or the artist gets paid for their videos being run....

BlackCrayon 10-01-2009 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 16378570)
:1orglaugh yeah im not rly srs the internet was made for animations and free pr0n

Copyright violation is copyright violation but you can't compare screencaps to actual movies.

Tom_PM 10-01-2009 11:30 AM

From Youtube's Upload Video's page:

"Important: Do not upload any TV shows, music videos, music concerts, or commercials without permission unless they consist entirely of content you created yourself.

The Copyright Tips page and the Community Guidelines can help you determine whether your video infringes someone else's copyright.

By clicking "Upload Video", you are representing that this video does not violate YouTube's Terms of Use and that you own all copyrights in this video or have authorization to upload it."


Within that quick note are links to their Copyright Tips, Community Guidelines and Terms of Use.

Please paste us the upload video guidelines from a tube site. We'll wait, lol.

edit: does it need pointing out that you can only do this if you are a member with your information and IP stored in case they need it? Guess not :)

SykkBoy 10-01-2009 11:33 AM

because we're all hypocrites...
we only care about our own bottom lines being affected...

it's no different than people bitching about tubes yet bragging about catching the latest theatrical release on a torrent site or stocking up on MP3s...

SykkBoy 10-01-2009 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 16378859)
From Youtube's Upload Video's page:

"Important: Do not upload any TV shows, music videos, music concerts, or commercials without permission unless they consist entirely of content you created yourself.

The Copyright Tips page and the Community Guidelines can help you determine whether your video infringes someone else's copyright.

By clicking "Upload Video", you are representing that this video does not violate YouTube's Terms of Use and that you own all copyrights in this video or have authorization to upload it."


Within that quick note are links to their Copyright Tips, Community Guidelines and Terms of Use.

Please paste us the upload video guidelines from a tube site. We'll wait, lol.

edit: does it need pointing out that you can only do this if you are a member with your information and IP stored in case they need it? Guess not :)

so, if a tube site added those bits of text to their site, it would put them in the clear? interesting...

Tom_PM 10-01-2009 11:36 AM

No, and you know it's silly to presume since someone said one thing, that they mean 100000 other things.

dyna mo 10-01-2009 11:39 AM

is 1 single frame from a movie the same value as a full movie?


i know it's copyright and all but these are 2 different types, so the analogy does not work.

Tom_PM 10-01-2009 11:43 AM

What recourse does a current complainer have if they want a video off a tube site? Email them and ask for it to be removed? Fine. What if it's multiple videos? Wouldnt someone want to know who the fuck uploaded them all? Nobody wants any legal cover, OR legal recourse? Well for fuck sakes just say so and be done with it entirely.

LEGAL sites that accept user submitted content have to cover themselves and make the good faith effort of requiring uploaders to be in posession of the rights to distribute the content. Thats it! Thats all there is to it. Someone not going that half-step is clearly not intending to run a real legal operation, thats that.

TheDoc 10-01-2009 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 16378859)
From Youtube's Upload Video's page:

"Important: Do not upload any TV shows, music videos, music concerts, or commercials without permission unless they consist entirely of content you created yourself.

The Copyright Tips page and the Community Guidelines can help you determine whether your video infringes someone else's copyright.

By clicking "Upload Video", you are representing that this video does not violate YouTube's Terms of Use and that you own all copyrights in this video or have authorization to upload it."


Within that quick note are links to their Copyright Tips, Community Guidelines and Terms of Use.

Please paste us the upload video guidelines from a tube site. We'll wait, lol.

edit: does it need pointing out that you can only do this if you are a member with your information and IP stored in case they need it? Guess not :)


You mean like? (first adult tube I looked at)
Please follow these rules so we can all enjoy the site.Respect copyright. Only upload videos that you made or that you are authorized to use.

Do not attempt to upload child pornography or any videos exploiting children. We take this very seriously and will advise the appropriate authorities to deal with the matter.

Do not upload animal abuse, drug abuse, or bomb making or any related content.

We do not tolerate predatory behavior, stalking, threats, harassment, invading privacy, or the revealing of other members' personal information. You will not get any warning before you are banned from the site.

- NO SPAM - Do not create misleading descriptions, tags, titles or thumbnails in order to increase views. Spammers will be banned without any warnings.



You need an account to upload content to any tube software... unless someone has anon uploads. If you think it's not user uploaded, like all one user, you can nail the tube to the wall.

It's not different because it's youtube.

Tom_PM 10-01-2009 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 16378915)
You mean like? (first adult tube I looked at)
Please follow these rules so we can all enjoy the site.Respect copyright. Only upload videos that you made or that you are authorized to use.

Do not attempt to upload child pornography or any videos exploiting children. We take this very seriously and will advise the appropriate authorities to deal with the matter.

Do not upload animal abuse, drug abuse, or bomb making or any related content.

We do not tolerate predatory behavior, stalking, threats, harassment, invading privacy, or the revealing of other members' personal information. You will not get any warning before you are banned from the site.

- NO SPAM - Do not create misleading descriptions, tags, titles or thumbnails in order to increase views. Spammers will be banned without any warnings.



You need an account to upload content to any tube software... unless someone has anon uploads. If you think it's not user uploaded, like all one user, you can nail the tube to the wall.

It's not different because it's youtube.

There you go! I could respect a tube site like that if it was not just lip service. Now please dont say it was from what people call an "illegal" tube site?

BVF 10-01-2009 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 16378915)
It's not different because it's youtube.

It's different because YOUTUBE TAKES ACTION!!

Barefootsies 10-01-2009 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SykkBoy2 (Post 16378871)
because we're all hypocrites...
we only care about our own bottom lines being affected...

it's no different than people bitching about tubes yet bragging about catching the latest theatrical release on a torrent site or stocking up on MP3s...

Exactly right.
:thumbsup

TheDoc 10-01-2009 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVF (Post 16378937)
It's different because YOUTUBE TAKES ACTION!!

My content has been removed from every tube I have sent a notice to.

Forums, that's a different story.

Tom_PM 10-01-2009 11:55 AM

Hey I'll tell you right now that I withdraw every complaint I ever made if every request for content removal was honored 100% of the time and promptly and efforts are made to prevent a reoccurence of the violation.

But it sure seems people got/get pretty riled when mention is made of just a few tube sites, so whats the difference with those sites?

Imortyl Pussycat 10-01-2009 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 16378516)
Ok if not the avatars... how about the music videos, most of the satire videos, image shack photos, posting of motivational pictures with copyrighted content in them, hot linking of photos from google images, the sounds used in advertising here and other forums, funny pic/hot girls of myspace type threads... and I can go on for hours.

I agree, it's only bad when it's mine...

head hits nail. no one is innocent of piracy or "stealing content" in one form or another. be it this industry or all those you named. take away every post, in every tube thread, made by someone that has done any of the above "stealing" and you are left with an empty thread.


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