FreeNetPass scamming their adverts.
 

FreeNetPass owner (aka Adult Insider Dave) don't wanna pay advert's commission without explanation.
I chose a payment option 'wire transfer' (with minimum amount to pay $1000) and earned $1103 in period of 1 Jul 2009 - 15 Oct 2009. After hold of 2 weeks Dave had to pay this money (it should have happened at Nov 2). But he DID NOT PAY. As you see, it's 30 Nov 2009 now, but I still not received my money. Now it's time to pay money that was earned until 15 November 2009 ($1341). But as I see, Dave has not going to do it.

I tried to contact Dave many times via emails, ICQ, in topics of his forum (adultinsider dot com), via Private Messages on this forum but he did not answer.

At 11-23-2009 Dave decided to answer to one of my topics on his forum (he deleted another topics. UPD: today he banned me on his forum at all). There is his answer:


Of course, after this message I sent to Dave additional 2 emails and even one Private Message on forum (I saw that he was on forum 'online'). And... received NO REPLY.

So, Dave, maybe here you'll say why you don't wanna pay money? And when you'll think about it, I'll answer to your 'typically one of 3 things'.

1. he is scammer

Look. I worked with FreeNetPass since 16 Dec 2005. During this time until 30 Jun 2009, I earned with FreeNetPass on signups and rebills $48774. Yes, there were chargebacks during this time ($1280), they are inveritable. But Dave did not consider me a scammer. What happened now? Maybe something terrible happened in last payperiod? Ok, let's see. During 1 Jul 2009 - 15 Nov 2009 I made $1409 on 18 signups and 64 rebills. And there were 4 chargebacks ($68).
$1409 - $68 = $1341.

DOES IT MEAN THAT I'M SCAMMER??

2. he is owed $20 after 6 months and the minimum payout is $100

Yes, I earned my $1341 during 3,5 monthes. But I don't understand - don't you carry earned money to another payperiod (early you always carried)???.

IS IT THE REASON NOT TO PAY???

3. High chargebacks on the account.

Let's see: 18 signups and 64 rebills. And 4 chargebacks. Is it so high? Maybe you'll go to FreeNetPass's link list (go to freenetpass dot com and click on 'browse content') and check AVS sites represented here? Even on first page there are a lot of dead links, expired domains and bullshit sites. Of course, surfers don't wanna pay for bullshit and sometimes make chargebacks. It's really wonder that chargebacks are so few on my account.

DO YOU STILL THINK THAT CHARGEBACKS IN AMOUNT OF $64 ARE TOO MUCH FOR EARNED $1409???


At the same time, when Dave didn't pay, it was really funny that my account worked, I received email notifications of new rebills, my sites were active, etc.

And yesterday my account was deleted... without explanation. I begin to understand that 'without explanation' - is Dave's slogan.

I would like to warn people, who make business with Dave - BE CAREFULL, YOU WORK WITH SCAMMER.

Dave is owner of these projects:

adultinsider dot com
eroticinsider dot com
freenetpass dot com
annomate dot com

Dave's ICQ: 102858186

UPD: Today Dave banned me on his Adult Insider forum. :)
It happened when I asked on Adult Insider's (!!!) forum "Is someone work with FreeNetPass?". Of course, IMHO I was the last idiot, who worked there :)

I'll get the popcorn.... this seat is taken :) Nom Nom..

pretty intense first post....

d-null, do you know this anekdote?

- Son, are you not voiceless?
- There were just nothing to say for this time

:)

Damn, haven't seen fnp mentioned in years, used to promote them about 8 years ago. I was ready to go with the scammer explanation, but if you have indeed earned 48k with them then something seems fishy and its pretty crappy that you can't at least get a first hand specific explanation from Dave.

Have to admit, I did not know they were still around.

lazycash, yeah, I was shocked too.

Before submit this topic to public discussion, I tried to contact him (and his team) within a month, but received no reply.

It surprised me as well.

thanks for info, just wanted to build some sites there

thanks, I'm staying away from them..

You're welcome.

IMHO, if you are planning to close the project, it's good idea - to pay money that should be payed. But it's not for Dave :)

Interesting facts from FNP: since I begin to work with it (since 2005) there was old and poor design. But there were a lot of signups and rebills. FNP looked abandoned, but it brings money. And in Janury 2009 the wonder happened - FNP was redesigned. Adult Insider's team asked me - what I need to improve in FNP in order to increase my sales.

I even did not think that this is the beginning of the end.

Not surprised well, I am surprised they are still around but not that they are trying not to pay.
They are the one of very few programs that I've had problems getting paid from I used both FNP and the sister program they started never did much with the sister program had $50 in my account for more than 1 year then got a few sales to put me over the $100 minimum payout, never received the payout and when I asked about it I were told I had not made the minimum payout.
I told then I had $50 already from more than a year before and were told they did not keep keep stats that long or something similar to that.
I also got the run around and were sent from one guy to another and the answers I got from them left me with the impression that they were a couple of arrogant and not caring about their webmasters.

Michael O, when my account was active few days ago, I could see stats for 2005 year.

Yeah but this were in 2003 or something like that good luck with getting your money.

Michael O, yeah, luck - is all I need. Now I don't beleive in honesty.

Here's a bump ya.

Gary

Daaave, where are you? Don't be shy, answer :)

:( :(

Still no response from FNP. Here's a bump for ya.

Gary

Yep. I still can't beleive. Almost 5 years of common work and after that - so wonderful end :)

I offered my help to Dave (of course, not for free), to make FNP attractive both for adverts and surfers. But he decided to make FreeNetPass dead. Good choice :)

A thread where a guy is owed less than 500 is 13 plus pages and yours gets lost in the shuffle. Here's a bump for ya.

Gary

Bump for payment.

Gary

During 1 Jul 2009 - 15 Nov 2009 I made $1409 on 18 signups and 64 rebills.

The kick is the ass about all this is the 64 rebills that you not going to see. So your actually not getting paid for a whole lot more than what is owed to you right now.

Gary

i will also bump this as i hate assholes ...

Bump bump bump

I still don't understand - where's FreeNetPass' owner Dave?

Nothing to reply, Dave? :)

That's insane

they banned me there for asking questions as well

good way to cover things up

»Rob Content«, did you asked "who still works in FNP?" as I did?
Or what the questions?

Wow, that's shitty. Go with sexkey, they pay on time and without excuses..

Same here.

This is just the beginning. You're probably not going to get paid and one of these days they just won't be there anymore.

nickutis, I'm already there. But unfortunately SexKey don't have revshare program (as it was in FNP).

Man these program owners are scum, I'm always weary now before I sign up for a new program. Just file a BBB complaint as well as sue them in small claims court. IT DOES NOT TAKE THAT MUCH TIME! These pricks need to know that they can't just say, "Fuck you I'm not going to pay you, end of discussion."

I know that court - is very expensive pleasure. IMHO, Dave knows it too.

bump for a pissed affiliate :thumbsup

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Him not willing to respond pretty much says it all.....
Just odd that he wouldent think about his personal rep, especially if this is a case of 2 sides to one story.

Money is better than good personal reputation :)

They might be going belly up like SatanCash. Here's a Bump.

Gary

Gnus, there is a little difference: SatanCash' site tells us that affiliate program is closed.

And FreeNetPass' webmasters page tells us:
'Bi-weekly paychecks! We pay twice a month, on time, every time. Over $15 million paid since 2001!'

Yep, on time and every time. :)