British Boeing's new 787 Dreamliner passenger aircraft
 

Boeing's new 787 Dreamliner passenger aircraft is 1/4 British made/developed.

Mainly all the clever stuff in it.

is it that why it's 3 years late?

probaly

but if anything breaks, i bet it will be the usa made parts.

What makes it so great? Cliffnotes please.

I have heard a little about this aircraft.
I still think the 747 is the most impressive passenger aircraft ever.

I thought Boeing was American?

I might be wrong,

you've ever seen the A380 in real life?

Too many tea breaks:1orglaugh

No I have not, but I found this:
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/image...380vs787_2.gif

It's 80% reinforced carbon fiber, lighter, more fuel efficent

It can´t take off or touch down in my backyard. Obviously my backyard is too small, or that aircraft is too big. Anyway, I don´t need it.:2 cents:

I think it is ,the british part I guess is the Rolls Royce engines.

Useless without pics.

daaaaamn, airbus is still killin it in the massive department. thing can damn near seat my entire town! :1orglaugh

i think the british bits are the technology develped and made in some british firms.

it was n the news about it today, but i cannot find the links to what firms were involved.

anyway this plane is super dooper thanks to the british.

i think basicly we did the clever stuff then the americans put it together.

that said, i am not sure i would fancy going in a plane that is basicly a tube of tin foil.

Boeing has announced that its long-delayed 787 Dreamliner aircraft has passed final structural tests and is almost ready for its first flight.

The company said in June that a side body section of the plane's structure needed reinforcing. It is now satisfied that the modifications are a success.

There has been a series of delays in the 787's development, which is running almost two years behind schedule.

Boeing has said it hopes to deliver the first plane by the end of 2010.

Fuel efficient

"I am happy to report that the programme has validated the airplane structure for the 787 Dreamliner," said Scott Fancher at Boeing.

"We are very pleased with the results of this final functional testing. With the successful completion of static testing and this functional testing, our focus now moves to the first flight."

The 787 Dreamliner is a hugely important plane for US-based Boeing in its long-standing rivalry with Europe's Airbus.

It was first unveiled in July 2007 and is the firm's first all-new jet since 1995.

It is designed to make use of carbon fibre to make it much lighter and more fuel-efficient than traditional aluminium planes.

Earlier, Airbus's A400M military transport plane finally took to the skies in Spain for its first test flight.

The programme was launched by parent company EADS six years ago, but has also been dogged by a series of delays and soaring costs.

The first plane was due to go into service this year, but is running more than a year behind schedule.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8408144.stm

I was driving by Sydney (Australia) airport a month or so aho and there was a Singapore Airlines A380 right next to the road. It was massive...it's amazing the thing can even get off the ground.

A380 is impressive... saw one on my trip to dubai last month... fucking massive aircraft.. everyone at the airport was looking out through the window.. sick stuff.

saw it on the news last night, they say it is a terrible time for it to come out because airlines are seriously strapped for cash


spaz

You can't compare the A380 to the 787. Airbus and Boeing went in two different directions. Airbus went big to carry huge loads of passengers whereas Boeing decided the future was in a lightweight, fuel efficient, long range plane that will carry 200 - 300+ people depending on cabin configuration. Even 2+ years late to market, the 787 has Boeing's highest number of pre-orders and probably more than any Airbus ever had.

787's 1st flight yesterday:

i love to watch plans land as they seem to come down so slow.

i am not sure how they can stay up in the air to be honest.

its not realy natural is it?

just look how thin those wings are.

how the heck can the hold the engines on.


basicly your just sat in a tube.

its not natural.

any second those wings will rip off and you will be sucked out on the plane, or crash to earth in a ball of fire.

lets face it, no one realy knows how planes stay up in the air.

true dat..

Airbus is working on the A350 as 2 engine jet comparable to the 787 which is scheduled for 2014

and regarding numbers - if you add up all orders for all jets of each company... :winkwink:

lol @ allnuck.. i love airplanes, i know all about them.. heck the air disaster series which re-enacts plane crashes is a good show. ive seen ALL episodes/seasons..

Basically its all action/reaction... fill a balloon with air, let go of it, what happens? yup same shit.. jet plane pulls fuel + air, burns it at high temperature, and the resulting thrust + wing lift, etc lift it up..

Anyway your chances of DYING in an airplane are so fucking slim its not even funny.. there are backup systems for the backup systems.. I bet most of you didnt know this, but if AN airplane loses all power suddenly, a little propeller fan will fall from the bottom of the airplane, powered by the wind, and it will be enough to power the control systems of the airplane...

ALso there is no one single point of failure in the engine.. basically lets say one pipe breaks, or the fuel pump stops working, it is NOT enough to bring the airplane down..

Ive seen about 100 of those episodes about airplane crashes, and bottom line is its always a LOT of things going wrong that cause crashes, a lot of them were human error too.. you wouldnt believe how safe the new airplanes are now..

The airbus a380 is amazing.. i can foresee it going next 100 years with no crash... heck some airbus models are yet to see a crash, anyway..

I can go on and on, PS i have taken flight sessons too.. what fun

Don't bother. Allan was trying to troll gfy with his anti-american nonsense. He is mentally ill.

He wishes he could do as good as my handegg thread.

He wishes he was me.

i do

thats true

but i never will be as great as you.

how sad.

http://www.concordesst.com/accident/...es/flames1.jpg

Also, that propeller thingy you mentioned that is used to power the instruments... isn't that what the crash investigators reckon failed in the recent Air France crash that was never found?

not all planes are perfect, the Concorde certainly had some bad constructive failures. in this case the tanks in the wings.

also the 747 had a bad potential failure in the beginning: wiring for the air condition inside the tanks. a shortcut brought one machine down.

the good thing is that most accidents happen just once because of the enormous efforts they put into investigations. and in 90% of the cases probably worse could have been prevented if the pilots reacted correctly - humans are still the biggest source for errors.

i have a friend who works for Lufthansa Technik where they service all kinds of planes and i tend to believe him when he says that nothing is more tested, double checked and failure safe than a plane

but nothing is perfect of course

someone care to expalin why this plane is so special, looks very similar to 777 and 330 to me according to specs know

It uses composite parts...which reduces weight and as a result uses 20% less fuel...for starters.

Most flights are low or moderate in terms of passenger fullness.

So, the Boeing makes alot of sense for that average use.

eh Concorde was a flawed airplane.. the reason airplanes are so safe is because we learned from mistakes.. there was silly crashes decades ago and they found faults like bad cargo door design, etc... and thats why the airplanes are so safe..

An airplane maintained very well will reduce crashes..

i mean there are some AIRLINES that are yet to see a fatal crash, Virgin atlantic comes to mind...

Remember like i said, these airplanes are built amazingly well.. like i said, its not like your car where the radiator goes bad before you fix it.. airplanes get inspected and shit gets replaced before it even goes bad.. if cars were maintained this way they would never go bad..

Imagine getting new transmission at 10k miles, new engine at 20k miles, new axle/suspension at 15k miles, new radiator/compressor at 5k miles, etc.. this is how airplanes work.. they dont wait for the part to go bad, they replace them on a maintenance schedule..

just another useful tip, if you are on an airplane, say an airbus a330, and one engine goes bad.. you are not dead.. the airplane can FLY on that other engine for hours.. they would just have to decrease altitude, and the auto pilot will actually fuck with the controls so it adjusts for the side with the dead engine since its creating drag..

basically one engine lost doesnt mean death in today's aircrafts..

plus chances of losing 2 engines in a single flight are like one in a billion. not gonna happen.. the engines are independent of each other, have seperate systems, fuel tanks, etc...
anyway i can go on and on, but everytime iget on an airplane i feel safer than when i get in a car...

and ps airplanes are much much safer than driving.. if you decide to drive from NY to CALI, you have a way greater chance of dying than if you boarded a flight from NY to cali..

did few long flights in last few months (Philippines, US, SA) and all planes were 100% full

yep, I own a plane (together with few friends - a Piper Tohamawk - old plane but super fun to fly) and are also a pilot. We do our service every 50 hours. Last bill was over 10k usd (1000 hour service). Also changing engine next year, about 20k or more charge.

Biggest problem I has so far was faulty oil pressure gauge

the USA still makes stuff?

hehe i wanna get my own plane someday.. but ive heard if it flys, floats or fucks, rent it.. $10k is a shit load..

true, but we anticipated that when we bought it, so the price was lover originally. Calculations is only good if there are more people involved. Otherwise you are right, rent it.

after all the delays i am sure not flying on that piece of shit.. i bet there is a crash in the 1st two years after release..