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Kard63 12-18-2009 11:35 AM

0:5138 from 100% SEO traffic
 
I was just having a discussion with Brazzers and I was looking to get the GFY opinion. The content is old but the traffic is 100% SEO. Is 0:5138 reasonable?

Thanks in advance

Badmaash 12-18-2009 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Kard63 (Post 16660422)
I was just having a discussion with Brazzers and I was looking to get the GFY opinion. The content is old but the traffic is 100% SEO. Is 0:5138 reasonable?

Thanks in advance

You say SEO traffic - but is a tuned SEO traffic?

MaDalton 12-18-2009 11:37 AM

2 years ago not

today....

CunningStunt 12-18-2009 11:40 AM

Tageted traffic should get you 1:1000 at worst. That's if you know what you're doing, and who you promote are not fucktards.

Agent 488 12-18-2009 11:42 AM

maybe your terms and landing pages suck ass.

Jack Sparrow 12-18-2009 11:45 AM

Doesnt tell me much.

You can have 100% se traffic if you seo'd it for pissing girls, while having a gay site on it. Or promoting granny programs with it.

Either way, if i had those conversions i would leave and try something else the same second. And that isnt necessarily brazzers fault.

bdld 12-18-2009 12:30 PM

country of origin? that's more important than the source.

ganjaman 12-18-2009 12:36 PM

brazzers? i am at 1:1920 this year but at the start i was feeding them with mixed shit ...

Rice_Master 12-18-2009 12:38 PM

try sending it to yessignals

Lace 12-18-2009 12:42 PM

That's okay...I'm 0:9150 with Brazbucks from SE traffic. :) Gotta love it.

Robbie 12-18-2009 12:49 PM

Brazzers is everywhere and oversaturated. Every surfer in the world is aware of them. So trying to sell them isn't gonna work. They are victims of their own sucess as far as affiliates are concerned.

I'm assuming you are sending big tit traffic. Try something else. Give us a try, or Score, or Rachel Aziani. Trying to sell that L.A. same old, same old girls that Brazzers shoots over and over is the problem for you. There are sites that better serve guys who like big tits. :)

fuzebox 12-18-2009 01:01 PM

I don't get why "SEO traffic" is supposed to mean something special... Doesn't all traffic basically start at a search engine in some form or another (maybe with the exception of some extremely generic typeins). Even bookmarker traffic had to find the site somehow originally.

A google hit for "tranny porn" IMO is no higher quality than someone landing on a hub page and clicking a link called "tranny porn".

seeandsee 12-18-2009 01:02 PM

you are in wrong traffic

SomeCreep 12-18-2009 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kard63 (Post 16660422)
I was just having a discussion with Brazzers and I was looking to get the GFY opinion. The content is old but the traffic is 100% SEO. Is 0:5138 reasonable?

Thanks in advance

For Brazzers, yes, that ratio is reasonable even with SEO traffic. Brazzers web sites are the most over-exposed and over-saturated on the internet (as far as adult paysites are concerned.) That is why they convert poorly. I remember 2 - 3 years ago, before Tube8 and Pornhub, their sites converted very well. Not anymore.

ganjaman 12-18-2009 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 16660782)
I don't get why "SEO traffic" is supposed to mean something special... Doesn't all traffic basically start at a search engine in some form or another (maybe with the exception of some extremely generic typeins). Even bookmarker traffic had to find the site somehow originally.

A google hit for "tranny porn" IMO is no higher quality than someone landing on a hub page and clicking a link called "tranny porn".

there is seo traffic and seo traffic ... and i think people who are working with seo traffic when post about seo traffic dont mean traffic from baidu :winkwink: and traffic from google for "tranny porn" is of course much more valuated, cause its what the user exactly wants, if he click from hub page, he is driven there from who knows there and clicks cause he is only curious ... :2 cents:

rutra72 12-18-2009 01:23 PM

i'm 1:8870 this year
and 1:771 on HighDefRiches - Meat Melons with the same traffic

andrej_NDC 12-18-2009 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by CunningStunt (Post 16660444)
Tageted traffic should get you 1:1000 at worst. That's if you know what you're doing, and who you promote are not fucktards.

Dude, I have 1:500-1000 on untargetted tgp traffic...in 2009.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 12-18-2009 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by rutra72 (Post 16660885)
i'm 1:8870 this year
and 1:771 on HighDefRiches - Meat Melons with the same traffic

HDR converted awesome for me. So awesome they banned me for converting too well after only a half a dozen or so sales. No shit, they figured I was fucking them somehow. I was doing like 1:5 or something like that. I was promoting them via HDPornTrials.com with most of my traffic coming from terms like "$1 Porn" and "cheap porn trials". Of course it was converting well. Even the network didn't believe the ratios. Fucking idiots...

Regardless of that little issue, I'd still say go promote them. Their sites sold very well, and seeing ratios like that, it's pretty hard to accuse anyone of shaving...

Silvercash and Python converted very well on that site too. Not quite those ratios, but not far off either. Then during a server move something fucked up and I lost the whole site. If I were to start promoting adult again, that would be the first domain I started rebuilding on...

Kard63 12-18-2009 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Badmaash (Post 16660427)
You say SEO traffic - but is a tuned SEO traffic?

Each site is SEO'd to a specific pornstar's name. The content of the site is of that pornstar.

MikeFold 12-18-2009 01:59 PM

even seo needs to be targetted and filtered....
http://www.exwifeporno.com/mc-now.jpg

these ratios still exist :winkwink:

these sites that send traffic here start with only 1K a day...and filtered down to less than 50 a day to the sposnor
the rest are sent away to freebies

Adam X 12-18-2009 02:05 PM

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3178/...fb2b509c44.jpg

andrej_NDC 12-18-2009 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Kard63 (Post 16661100)
Each site is SEO'd to a specific pornstar's name. The content of the site is of that pornstar.

Well, in that case...the ratio sucks a lot.

woj 12-18-2009 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeFold (Post 16661101)
even seo needs to be targetted and filtered....
http://www.exwifeporno.com/mc-now.jpg

these ratios still exist :winkwink:

these sites that send traffic here start with only 1K a day...and filtered down to less than 50 a day to the sposnor
the rest are sent away to freebies

:winkwink:

http://www.smilingsite.com/wp-conten...r-gangster.jpg

RTP 12-18-2009 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Kard63 (Post 16661100)
Each site is SEO'd to a specific pornstar's name. The content of the site is of that pornstar.

It's filtered then...but you're sending it to wrong target. if they are searching for a specific pornstar name and you're seeing traffic, my advice is to send it to that particular pornstar site (if they have one) or a site that has many scenes on the individual.

sending to a huge network is giving them too many "outs" not to buy, if it was value traffic i'd send there or traffic that wants particular scenes/themes. pornstar traffic converts well (looks like you may know this already with what you are doing)

i actually did the same thing this week as you did, wasted alot of traffic but it proved my theory i took a sponsor i convert with seo traffic on 1:90 and threw at it teen traffic...500k+ raw (230k on monday) it converted horribly and this was my best conversion ratio based sponsor also...so it really isn't the program or site, it's the traffic

sending filtered traffic to a giant network is diluting it.

NetHorse 12-18-2009 03:46 PM

You guys are insane, I drop a sponsor if I convert less than 1:500. :1orglaugh

ganjaman 12-18-2009 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by NetHorse (Post 16661601)
You guys are insane, I drop a sponsor if I convert less than 1:500. :1orglaugh

pimpin ... :upsidedow

teomaxxx 12-18-2009 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kard63 (Post 16660422)
I was just having a discussion with Brazzers and I was looking to get the GFY opinion. The content is old but the traffic is 100% SEO. Is 0:5138 reasonable?

Thanks in advance

as the rest of people say here its reasonable. you can have 100% original content and still convert bad, since their stuff is everywhere.
i still think if sponsors gave only 50 percent of what they give now, they would be in better position, 0:5000 speak for itself...of course they have most traffic, but most traffic doesnt mean more bucks...

Robbie 12-18-2009 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by teomaxxx (Post 16661622)
as the rest of people say here its reasonable. you can have 100% original content and still convert bad, since their stuff is everywhere.
i still think if sponsors gave only 10 percent of what they give now, they would be in better position, 0:5000 speak for itself...of course they have most traffic, but most traffic doesnt mean more bucks...

teomaxxx! You are the king of blogging brother! :pimp
Much respect.

MikeFold 12-18-2009 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by woj (Post 16661333)


woj....where's the love.....?

:winkwink:

WiredGuy 12-20-2009 01:26 PM

Get better keywords. 0:5k is simply horrendous on SE traffic.
WG

chupachups 12-20-2009 01:33 PM

Guess its the traffic and old sites. I dont send much but I am @ 1:415 for Mofos this year.

Cyber Fucker 12-20-2009 01:47 PM

Mine stats were so bad I stopped to check them a while ago... and my traffic dropped to about 1000 uniques/ month... they blocked free content area so I can't promote them and I am not sure if I want... I am pretty sure they don't need small affiliates like me and my 10k-50k uniques a month since they own tubes that bring them millions uniques every hour


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