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Originally Posted by split_joel
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First off I went to watch the game with family today hoping the chargers would win even though most chargers fans sicken me to my soul.
The chargers fans cannot blame nick for missing 3 fgs he is still the best kicker in the NFL, you cannot blame your D for ALLOWING 1 touch down and another TD at a bullshit call by the refs.
Fact is Turner lost the chargers the game. Chargers D was shutting out the Jets and did not go for it on forth and 1, ran LT up the MIDDLE THE ENTIRE GAME when it has not worked in 2 years and decided to go for an onside kick which if didnt happen chargers would of tied or won the game. The onside kick was the final blow of horrible coaching. You had them stopped 3 and 1 if you would of punted the ball and stopped them 3 and 1 on the chargers 35 they would of not went for it on 4th and 1 and punted the ball giving the chargers an entire minute to put points on the board.
The chargers organization is a joke, and today proved it anyone watching the game knows the chargers were 10 times better then the Jets but played like shut due to bullshit play calling and coaches not able to control there players conduct.
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As another Charger fan, I'll say this:
Kaeding - I'll spot him the 57 yard miss for obvious reasons. i will however NOT forgive 2 misses of field goals he has made without fail the entire fucking year. This is THE game where you do NOT miss...you miss 2 of those and unless your team has been blowing out the other, you are probably going home. The first one may have seemed unimportant, but look at it from a morale standpoint - halftime up 10-0 would have the Jets feel a bit downtrodden going into the 2nd half, but as-is they were only down a score with their offense picking up steam in the 2nd quarter - very easy to strongly believe they had much more than a slim possibility to win the game.
To be honest, as much as we have him to thank for our regular season record being what it was, these playoff butterflies are really serious with him. I don't want to look up his attempts vs. made field goals in the playoffs since after this game it would be a tragic statistic. I personally wouldn't fire him just yet, but I wouldn't be surprised if he loses his job over this and they get another kicker...maybe an established pro with some successful playoff experience. Edit: I couldn't help myself - he's 8 for 15 in the playoffs. 2 of the misses are 50+ as far as I'm aware.
Tomlinson - Good point about the play calling...inside inside inside...and every time he found the hole, a defender was easily able to get off the block and get him. Every...fucking...time. I'll say half Turner's fault for being such a dumbass (and MetaMan, we were booing the calling of plays that were dead before they started...booing in hopes that Turner would snap out of it and call the plays we needed to get back in it. Some people may have been booing Tomlinson too, who before this game was so adamant about being at 100%, being ready to make a difference if needed, etc. The other half fault really does go to Tomlinson just not being the same. Old Tomlinson would have made it through half those times he found the hole and he is now about as far from "explosive" as any RB I've seen. The only positive thing I can say about him now is that he's willing to take a beating and keep going. Strong determination in him, but the legs/feet aren't doing what he needs.
The onside kick - First off, I must confess...I fucking forgot to set my DVR to go an hour over just in case and I didn't see this part of the game. Seeing in recap what happened and thinking about it for awhile, I'm inclined to agree with you even though initially I was 50/50 on it. I can't blame him for the thought of it entering his mind because the defense WASN'T stopping them in the 2nd half very well...all 17 Jets points came in that 2nd half. It was a very outcome-based move and Rex Ryan being the cocky guy he is, may have gone for it on 4th and 1 even if they were in their own territory...it's 1 yard and game if they get it, and Rivers had been finding ways to win 11 games in a row, a number of them comeback wins, and he generally tends to make shit happen when it's needed. Bottom line - my DVR cut out with I think 5 and a half minutes left in the 4th quarter, and I knew they didn't have a chance. They kept getting significant pressure on Rivers and covering everything deep...so at best we would have been relying on Nate Kaeding to not miss a 4th field goal, and the way he was going he couldn't kick a hot dog into Octomom's hallway from 1 yard out.
Some points of my own:
Penalties...good god. If Kaeding alone didn't fuck us, the fucking penalties did. I'd like to know the total yards we negated on offense by our penalties...one play that comes to mind was Floyd's illegal (and unnecessary) block to the back on a 20+ yard gain by Vincent Jackson.
Tomlinson - If he wasn't seriously contemplating retirement, he should. He had IT and has since lost IT, and it's not mental but physical, which means IT is probably gone for good. I really hope not, but things are not looking too bright here.
Miracle interception by Revis. Absolutely ridiculous that it wasn't caught to begin with, let alone that it wasn't simply an incompletion but fell right into his fucking lap. I've never ever seen anyone laying on their back make an interception, but I guess there's a first time for everything.
Jets: Established run, which helped get their passing game going. Before that, they were completely fucked. We on the other hand never established shit on the run and had our running game to blame for a lot of punts. If only we had kept the Jet's running game in check. That TD run was major but the way they were gearing up at that point, they'd have gotten that TD eventually anyways.
Chargers: You guys blew your chance. Manning would have choked again against you and you know it...this win would have put you in the Super Bowl for the first time in 15 years. You have so much talent that will very soon be requiring way too much money to pay, and thus will lost most of it. Rivers is great, certainly an MVP-caliber QB, but he can't carry a team through the playoffs. He did his part today with more talent on our team than we'll be able to have in the next 5+ years and the team and Norv let him down...how are we going to get close at all to getting to the Super Bowl with LESS talent than what we've got now?
