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JFK 04-14-2010 10:11 AM

Check out this shot...............
 
I was driving back from golf in Phoenix and spotted this guy packing. I wonder if he's undercover, judging by his appearance..... or was :1orglaugh till I spotted him:winkwink:

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2012 04-14-2010 10:13 AM

nice work MacGyver good looking out:1orglaugh:thumbsup

Scott McD 04-14-2010 10:15 AM

If he was undercover he sure as hell isn't now. :1orglaugh

Honez 04-14-2010 10:15 AM

I would say not undercover. He has a permit to carry which is a smart move living in Phoenix. :)

TrainWreckContent 04-14-2010 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott McD (Post 17032319)
If he was undercover he sure as hell isn't now. :1orglaugh

another person exposed on gfy :1orglaugh

dyna mo 04-14-2010 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Honez (Post 17032321)
I would say not undercover. He has a permit to carry which is a smart move living in Phoenix. :)

eh? no permit required to have a holstered gun.

dyna mo 04-14-2010 10:19 AM

this is undercover:



ottopottomouse 04-14-2010 10:22 AM

He needs leathers.

Nice number plate placement though :thumbsup

pornguy 04-14-2010 10:26 AM

What the hell he think he is in the movies or something?? Going to get himself killed trying to pull that thing out.

JFK 04-14-2010 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Honez (Post 17032321)
I would say not undercover. He has a permit to carry which is a smart move living in Phoenix. :)

well, dressed hip as he was, with Converse and Monster shirt and jeans the gun just didnt make any sense. So that is why it came to mind, maybe he's an undervover drug cop or something:2 cents:

CIVMatt 04-14-2010 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Honez (Post 17032321)
I would say not undercover. He has a permit to carry which is a smart move living in Phoenix. :)

Until it's exposed... that's a huge violation right there son

Paper_Amar 04-14-2010 10:43 AM

saw that on the news....

no longer need permits to have a concealed firearm in phoenix

absurd

dyna mo 04-14-2010 10:45 AM

that's not a concealed weapon.

fyi.

jimmy-3-way 04-14-2010 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ottopottomouse (Post 17032352)
He needs leathers.

Nice number plate placement though :thumbsup

Sure, if you are begging to get pulled over.

JFK 04-14-2010 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paper_Amar (Post 17032442)
saw that on the news....

no longer need permits to have a concealed firearm in phoenix

absurd

No shit ?? Can you just go to a gun shop and pick one up, or do you have to have an overall permit ?

JFK 04-14-2010 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17032447)
that's not a concealed weapon.

fyi.

it would of been, if his shirt didnt ride up his back from the wind:winkwink:

John-ACWM 04-14-2010 10:47 AM

:1orglaugh He's either stupid or showing off.

Spudstr 04-14-2010 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CIVMatt (Post 17032394)
Until it's exposed... that's a huge violation right there son

No its not. AZ is a pre-emptive state which allows open carry. Which is no permit required.

a permit is only required to carry concealed. in a "golden state" you can open carry or conseal.

dyna mo 04-14-2010 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFK (Post 17032459)
it would of been, if his shirt didnt ride up his back from the wind:winkwink:

no, it's not considered a concealed weapon to carry a gun in a holster on your belt in arizona.

Spudstr 04-14-2010 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFK (Post 17032454)
No shit ?? Can you just go to a gun shop and pick one up, or do you have to have an overall permit ?

Like virginia you can goto a gun shop and buy it and then open carry it on your hip w/o a permit. You only need a permit to conceal.

JFK 04-14-2010 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17032468)
no, it's not considered a concealed weapon to carry a gun in a holster on your belt in arizona.

even if covered by a shirt ?

dyna mo 04-14-2010 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spudstr (Post 17032465)
No its not. AZ is a pre-emptive state which allows open carry. Which is no permit required.

a permit is only required to carry concealed. in a "golden state" you can open carry or conseal.

exactly.

dyna mo 04-14-2010 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFK (Post 17032477)
even if covered by a shirt ?

A handgun carried in a belt holster which is wholly or partially visible or carried in luggage is not considered carrying concealed.

dyna mo 04-14-2010 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paper_Amar (Post 17032442)
saw that on the news....

no longer need permits to have a concealed firearm in phoenix

absurd

not true at all.

JFK 04-14-2010 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spudstr (Post 17032465)
No its not. AZ is a pre-emptive state which allows open carry. Which is no permit required.

a permit is only required to carry concealed. in a "golden state" you can open carry or conseal.

OK, what is a pre-emtive state vs a Golden state ?

MaDalton 04-14-2010 10:55 AM

pathetic...

borked 04-14-2010 10:58 AM

gonna wear out his tyre pretty quick rubbing on the license plate like that

dyna mo 04-14-2010 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by borked (Post 17032499)
gonna wear out his tyre pretty quick rubbing on the license plate like that

:1orglaugh

that license plate is breaking more laws than that holstered gun.

Honez 04-14-2010 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CIVMatt (Post 17032394)
Until it's exposed... that's a huge violation right there son

Read above :thumbsup

96ukssob 04-14-2010 11:28 AM

I know a few people in AZ that have a license to carry permit. Same here in PA and even friends that I had no idea until we go to the bank and they pull a gun out and say they need to leave it in the car :1orglaugh

Honez 04-14-2010 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17032468)
no, it's not considered a concealed weapon to carry a gun in a holster on your belt in arizona.

That is not entirely true. A portion of the gun or holster needs to be exposed enough to be recognizable as a gun. If a persons shirt, coat, whatever, covers the gun and holster entirely, it could be considered concealed.

dyna mo 04-14-2010 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Honez (Post 17032626)
That is not entirely true. A portion of the gun or holster needs to be exposed enough to be recognizable as a gun. If a persons shirt, coat, whatever, covers the gun and holster entirely, it could be considered concealed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17032486)
A handgun carried in a belt holster which is wholly or partially visible or carried in luggage is not considered carrying concealed.


:thumbsup

Spudstr 04-14-2010 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFK (Post 17032494)
OK, what is a pre-emtive state vs a Golden state ?


nothing they are the same. golden states are considered most gun friendly states with their local laws.

preemptive just means that the state has laws in place that prevent local jurisdictions from creating gun laws that would prohibit the right to bare arms. etc. So the state has a preemptive gun law which prohibits some town that would ban the carry of fire arms.

Phoenix 04-14-2010 12:08 PM

looks like a hoodlum...but he gets to carry a handgun...awesome

now i know why people in arizona are so friendly :)

you never know who is packin

Honez 04-14-2010 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17032637)
:thumbsup

Same, same :thumbsup

Nikki_Licks 04-14-2010 12:22 PM

Nope, he is not undercover. I carry a weapon all the time and do not need a lic to carry in this state.

Semi-Retired-Dave 04-14-2010 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spudstr (Post 17032465)
No its not. AZ is a pre-emptive state which allows open carry. Which is no permit required.

a permit is only required to carry concealed. in a "golden state" you can open carry or conseal.

Yup, Very true.
I was there once in a liquor store and I guy walked in behind me with his gun on him. First thing I thought of is that Shit was gonna go down and I was going to be in the middle of it. Then I told the clerk, did you see that guy, that fucker had a gun. He looked at me like I was nuts and said he knew, that it was legal. :Oh crap

Can you imagine down here in LA if a guy walked in with a Gun on him at a 7-eleven. :(

dyna mo 04-14-2010 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberAge-Dave (Post 17032822)
Yup, Very true.
I was there once in a liquor store and I guy walked in behind me with his gun on him. First thing I thought of is that Shit was gonna go down and I was going to be in the middle of it. Then I told the clerk, did you see that guy, that fucker had a gun. He looked at me like I was nuts and said he knew, that it was legal. :Oh crap

Can you imagine down here in LA if a guy walked in with a Gun on him at a 7-eleven. :(

clerk was wrong, it is against the law to carry a handgun in a liquor store in AZ.

JFK 04-14-2010 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spudstr (Post 17032711)
nothing they are the same. golden states are considered most gun friendly states with their local laws.

preemptive just means that the state has laws in place that prevent local jurisdictions from creating gun laws that would prohibit the right to bare arms. etc. So the state has a preemptive gun law which prohibits some town that would ban the carry of fire arms.

thanks:thumbsup

Spudstr 04-14-2010 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberAge-Dave (Post 17032822)
Can you imagine down here in LA if a guy walked in with a Gun on him at a 7-eleven. :(

You can OC in Cali.. in the suburbs.. just not in places like LA :P

michael.kickass 04-14-2010 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John-ACWM (Post 17032460)
:1orglaugh He's either stupid or showing off.

Most likely the first one.

jimmy-3-way 04-14-2010 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17032830)
clerk was wrong, it is against the law to carry a handgun in a liquor store in AZ.

Sounds bogus, you can bring a gun into a bar but not a store?

dyna mo 04-14-2010 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmy-3-way (Post 17032947)
Sounds bogus, you can bring a gun into a bar but not a store?

it has been a while since i've been to AZ with my guns so i just checked and the law has been changed recently-

Quote:

Wednesday, September 30, 2009


NRA-ILA is pleased to announce that three new pro-gun laws officially go into effect today in Arizona.

The employee protection/parking lot law requires employers to allow the lawful storage of firearm(s) in employees? locked motor vehicles while they are at work. Employers are not allowed to ban the storage of firearms in vehicles unless they offer an alternate location to park immediately adjacent to the standard parking area. If your employer violates this new law, please contact us immediately at 703-267-1240 or email state&[email protected].

Also effective today, concealed carry permit holders can carry a concealed firearm for self-defense while in an establishment that serves on site alcoholic beverages as long as they are not consuming alcohol. A restaurant or bar can ban possession by posting a sign next to the liquor license. It is important to note that posting the sign at the entrance of an establishment is not sufficient and one is legally protected to enter the premises and see if the sign is posted in the proper place next to the liquor license. If it is not, the establishment is not in compliance with the law and you may remain inside even if a sign is posted at the entrance. It is important for gun owners to politely let restaurant owners know you prefer to patronize those restaurants who do not post their premises.

Finally, a new law allows for a concealed carry permit holder to ?display? their weapon to de-escalate what would otherwise be a violent altercation. It has been designed to stop problems in the past where the passive display of a firearm was considered brandishing and not a means of self defense. It will prevent law abiding citizens from violating the law when lethal force is not required to prevent a violent incident. It is important to note that this law does not allow for you to remove your handgun from its holster to intimidate another individual or gain leverage on a situation.

st0ned 04-14-2010 01:29 PM

I ride with my gun on my hip every time I am on my street bike as well. Though I do have my CCW you would not in fact need one if the gun is not being concealed.

TheDoc 04-14-2010 01:31 PM

I love seeing people standing in line at the bank here with a holstered gun...

Semi-Retired-Dave 04-14-2010 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17032830)
clerk was wrong, it is against the law to carry a handgun in a liquor store in AZ.

Really, shit. :Oh crap Even if it's concealed.

jimmy-3-way 04-14-2010 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17032993)
I love seeing people standing in line at the bank here with a holstered gun...

I used to do that until I forgot to take off my motorcycle helmet and they called the SWAT team.

Also I guess I shouldn't have asked for my withdrawal to be in small non-sequential bills.

dyna mo 04-14-2010 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberAge-Dave (Post 17033001)
Really, shit. :Oh crap Even if it's concealed.

i was wrong, the law has been relaxed since. :thumbsup

dyna mo 04-14-2010 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmy-3-way (Post 17033002)
I used to do that until I forgot to take off my motorcycle helmet and they called the SWAT team.

Also I guess I shouldn't have asked for my withdrawal to be in small non-sequential bills.

:1orglaugh :thumbsup

speaking of, i was recently kicked out of a retail store for not removing my motorcycle helmet when i entered, 1st time that has happened in 25 years of riding.

nation-x 04-14-2010 01:53 PM

baddog showed me a pic of someone carrying at TPF


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