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mvidio 06-22-2010 07:40 AM

Are tube sites buying anymore content?
 
It seems like tube sites are going up everywhere and curious to know whether or not tube sites are still buying up content and what the market is for it.

area51 - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-22-2010 07:53 AM

stupid question

Paul Markham 06-22-2010 08:00 AM

The price they want to pay it isn't worth the hassle or the loss of business.

Barefootsies 06-22-2010 08:06 AM

They are buying up content like hot cakes.
:pimp

gideongallery 06-22-2010 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 17269309)
The price they want to pay it isn't worth the hassle or the loss of business.

that because you don't know how to sell it to them.

L-Pink 06-22-2010 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 17269506)
that because you don't know how to sell it to them.

Oh shut the fuck up you parasite.


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eastwood 06-22-2010 09:33 AM

I think we have been buying from paul too.
And yes they are buying.

Davy 06-22-2010 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mvidio (Post 17269245)
Are tube sites buying anymore content

The popular ones sure don't.

Choker 06-22-2010 10:45 AM

Tube sites are about the only sites buying content right now, they are paying less than $5 a full scene. Ive seen a few blowout sales for like $1 per video, unreal

gideongallery 06-22-2010 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choker (Post 17269816)
Tube sites are about the only sites buying content right now, they are paying less than $5 a full scene. Ive seen a few blowout sales for like $1 per video, unreal

if they understood the new economy they would be betting between $35-60 per 5 minute scene.

they just don't understand how much power of the new marketplace.

btw hit me choker, i have one of the training videos layed out, i just need to record it
i would like to get your pov on it before i release into the wild (since it targeted to your market not my normal one)

BAKO 06-22-2010 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 17269322)
They are buying up content like hot cakes.
:pimp

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Cyber Fucker 06-22-2010 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by area51 (Post 17269282)
stupid question

Of course it's stupid!

They take it for free! And if someone claim something they say it's user submitted content! :pimp

TheDoc 06-22-2010 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 17269506)
that because you don't know how to sell it to them.

Umm... they're willing to buy, he isn't willing to sell his stuff for that cheap.


Quote:

Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 17269988)
if they understood the new economy they would be betting between $35-60 per 5 minute scene.

they just don't understand how much power of the new marketplace.

Speaking of marketplace, nobody is going to buy old, trash content for $35-60 per 5 minutes.. The best sales person in the world isn't selling it for that price when you can buy an entire DVD for less than $100 or an entire scene for $1.

The $35-$60+ range is newer and good content, and no reason to sell that to tubes when membership sites will pay $100's to $1000's per scene, per year and tubes won't touch that price range.

You're way out of your game here...

harvey 06-22-2010 04:33 PM

yes.
8 char

MaDalton 06-22-2010 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17270818)
Umm... they're willing to buy, he isn't willing to sell his stuff for that cheap.




Speaking of marketplace, nobody is going to buy old, trash content for $35-60 per 5 minutes.. The best sales person in the world isn't selling it for that price when you can buy an entire DVD for less than $100 or an entire scene for $1.

The $35-$60+ range is newer and good content, and no reason to sell that to tubes when membership sites will pay $100's to $1000's per scene, per year and tubes won't touch that price range.

You're way out of your game here...

no one is paying "$1000s" for a non-exclusive scene and for sure not per year - but if you know one please let me know and i pay you a commission.

and tube sites don't buy exclusive content - yet

so you are comparing apples to oranges here

but some tubes seem to be willing to pay a pretty good price for non-exclusive content while good paying membership site clients become less and less - so there is definitely something shifting.

TheDoc 06-22-2010 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 17270865)
no one is paying "$1000s" for a non-exclusive scene and for sure not per year - but if you know one please let me know and i pay you a commission.

and tube sites don't buy exclusive content - yet

so you are comparing apples to oranges here

but some tubes seem to be willing to pay a pretty good price for non-exclusive content while good paying membership site clients become less and less - so there is definitely something shifting.

Exactly... his $35-60 per "5" minutes, is a shit load per scene/DVD.. He's either talking about exclusive, or he's even more in left field than I thought.

Tubes buy trash content at trash prices... no way anyone is selling content to them for that price, I couldn't agree more.

If you want clients, hit up every dvd/porn download site. They purchase high quality DVD's (not exclusive) from $100-$1000+ per, download rights of course - many renew yearly.

harvey 06-22-2010 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 17270865)
no one is paying "$1000s" for a non-exclusive scene and for sure not per year - but if you know one please let me know and i pay you a commission.

and tube sites don't buy exclusive content - yet

so you are comparing apples to oranges here

but some tubes seem to be willing to pay a pretty good price for non-exclusive content while good paying membership site clients become less and less - so there is definitely something shifting.

this.
8 char

Why 06-22-2010 04:53 PM

i ono, that the $5 per scene is all crappy content, been picking up 2007-09 titles for close to that price lately.

Barefootsies 06-22-2010 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Why (Post 17270912)
i ono, that the $5 per scene is all crappy content, been picking up 2007-09 titles for close to that price lately.

Yep. Plenty of sweet deals toe be had.
:pimp

TheDoc 06-22-2010 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Why (Post 17270912)
i ono, that the $5 per scene is all crappy content, been picking up 2007-09 titles for close to that price lately.

That's just sad... guess that really means the market place isn't picking up then.

LickMyBalls 06-22-2010 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 17270920)
Yep. Plenty of sweet deals toe be had.
:pimp

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:thumbsup

$5 submissions 06-22-2010 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choker (Post 17269816)
$5 a full scene. Ive seen a few blowout sales for like $1 per video, unreal

Wow! Would be unthinkable a few years ago.

gideongallery 06-22-2010 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17270891)
Exactly... his $35-60 per "5" minutes, is a shit load per scene/DVD.. He's either talking about exclusive, or he's even more in left field than I thought.

Tubes buy trash content at trash prices... no way anyone is selling content to them for that price, I couldn't agree more.

If you want clients, hit up every dvd/porn download site. They purchase high quality DVD's (not exclusive) from $100-$1000+ per, download rights of course - many renew yearly.

three words "content as traffic"

sell content as traffic and it really easy to get those kinds of results.

MaDalton 06-22-2010 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Why (Post 17270912)
i ono, that the $5 per scene is all crappy content, been picking up 2007-09 titles for close to that price lately.

the problem with that is, that many producers desperately need money. and i'd say that 80% of them don't care anymore how their business looks like in 3, 5 or 10 years - they need money by the end of the month to pay rent. and this destroys the biz for the rest of us. anyone who ever produced content knows, that $1 or even $5 is not an appropriate price for a scene. but still the desperation seems strong.

and btw - we still sell a HD boy/girl at $130 per scene and it gets bought - because it's not on every tube and every other website. and before i'd sell it for $1 i rather shoot myself.

gideongallery 06-22-2010 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 17271106)
the problem with that is, that many producers desperately need money. and i'd say that 80% of them don't care anymore how their business looks like in 3, 5 or 10 years - they need money by the end of the month to pay rent. and this destroys the biz for the rest of us. anyone who ever produced content knows, that $1 or even $5 is not an appropriate price for a scene. but still the desperation seems strong.

and btw - we still sell a HD boy/girl at $130 per scene and it gets bought - because it's not on every tube and every other website. and before i'd sell it for $1 i rather shoot myself.

how many times do you sell it at that rate.

TheDoc 06-22-2010 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 17271069)
three words "content as traffic"

sell content as traffic and it really easy to get those kinds of results.

I don't think you understand how the adult content market works when it comes to buying and selling content.

MaDalton 06-23-2010 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 17271636)
how many times do you sell it at that rate.

definitely less than i would sell it for $5 - but this is exactly my goal. i have to deal with less people and people get content that is almost like exclusive for a fraction of the price.

gideongallery 06-23-2010 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17271751)
I don't think you understand how the adult content market works when it comes to buying and selling content.

yes

the price point is based on test in the music industry but the principle is industry agnostic

infact what i am talking about actually works better in adult because there is already a valid established substitution to compete against.


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