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xxxjay 07-06-2010 04:13 PM

How Pornhub gone legit?
 
I was looking around on the site and all of the newer stuff seems to be 5 minute and sponsored videos with links through to a paysite? (Something I thought all tubes should have been doing since the beginning)

Has pornhub gone legit?

I still see that the other tubes are pretty shifty though.

Major (Tom) 07-06-2010 04:25 PM

shoot me a an icq bro, i need to speak to you about something. *unrelated to this thread*
duke

AdPatron 07-06-2010 04:42 PM

I'm surprised they're not doing more with all the traffic they get.

DateDoc 07-06-2010 04:44 PM

they have 11 vids on the front page over 15 minutes. That is about what they have had for a while.

Klen 07-06-2010 04:45 PM

I see 5 videos with 40 minutes duration so i guess not.

wargames 07-06-2010 04:46 PM

Been more legit for months

arock10 07-06-2010 04:54 PM

legit stand up bros

Loch 07-06-2010 04:54 PM

Something has changed im sure, i have been seeing the same.
Not just on Pornhub, either

Dirty Dane 07-06-2010 04:58 PM

wtf.. I just went there and it showed advertising with cartoon child sex on first page. Isn't that shit illegal in many countries?

fatfoo 07-06-2010 05:12 PM

Based on what you say you saw, it could be legit.

mynameisjim 07-06-2010 05:14 PM

Most tubes started trending legit almost two years ago. Some tube owners know how to do it right, some still don't quite have the formula down right. It's all in the mix of videos. For the owners that have it right, conversions are better than 1:1000

Surfers just want good videos, they don't care much about length anymore. At first, they hated the short clips, but not anymore if the clip is good. Some tube owners don't realize that yet.

SomeCreep 07-06-2010 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 17314767)
I was looking around on the site and all of the newer stuff seems to be 5 minute and sponsored videos with links through to a paysite? (Something I thought all tubes should have been doing since the beginning)

Has pornhub gone legit?

What a sign of the times. Only in an industry which has been completely flushed down the toilet, could we even ask whether a site which still has 1000's of unlicensed/stolen videos on it, "has gone legit?"

colin farrell 07-06-2010 06:45 PM

no what has happened is that they need a constant influx of new videos to keep the bookmarkers happy and theres only so much shit out there to be uploaded to any given site. no new content = good bye loyal pornhub viewers to the next hot tube of the day. look at all the tubes, you'll find the same videos. so now what they're trying to do is legitimize and get programs to do the work and upload their own videos to their tube. they get two things, new vids and they don't have to upload anything. and they take no risk of their own people finding adult studios stuff and uploading it just to get it taken back down by DMCA. there will always be dumb studio owners who don't know any better who think if you give away your stuff someone will buy.

marketsmart 07-06-2010 07:26 PM

as tony montana would say:

first you steal the content, then you get the traffic, then you make the money, then you go legit....





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epitome 07-06-2010 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 17315235)
as tony montana would say:

first you steal the content, then you get the traffic, then you make the money, then you go legit....





.

Bingo!

I don't know why it would surprise anybody. They never cared that dating and cams would dry up, either ... that was just to supplement their income until they had more traffic than God in order to go legit.

MPGdevil 07-07-2010 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Dane (Post 17314877)
wtf.. I just went there and it showed advertising with cartoon child sex on first page. Isn't that shit illegal in many countries?

I am no expert and didn't see the adverts, but not sure how a drawing could be illegal?
You can buy maintream movies in all countries including rape, incest, murder and other scenes which are otherwise crimes.

Tons of Simpsons incest toons, Disney bestiality, hentai rape and other inappropriate stuff have floated the web for ages without consequences, so my guess would be it isn't illegal.

EliteWebmaster 07-07-2010 04:19 AM

Can anyone help fill me in as I don't know much about the history of Pornhub.

Were they an illegal tube site? Wouldn't they have gotten shut down? Sorry, this is one topic which I'm not too familiar with. Anyone care to tell me more please

seeandsee 07-07-2010 04:21 AM

all tubes are legit, did't you know that?

Agent 488 07-07-2010 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MPGdevil (Post 17315815)
I am no expert and didn't see the adverts, but not sure how a drawing could be illegal?
You can buy maintream movies in all countries including rape, incest, murder and other scenes which are otherwise crimes.

Tons of Simpsons incest toons, Disney bestiality, hentai rape and other inappropriate stuff have floated the web for ages without consequences, so my guess would be it isn't illegal.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_s...cting_mino rs

many have been jailed.

D Ghost 07-07-2010 07:36 AM

xshare also doing this

kristin 07-07-2010 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MPGdevil (Post 17315815)
I am no expert and didn't see the adverts, but not sure how a drawing could be illegal?
You can buy maintream movies in all countries including rape, incest, murder and other scenes which are otherwise crimes.

Tons of Simpsons incest toons, Disney bestiality, hentai rape and other inappropriate stuff have floated the web for ages without consequences, so my guess would be it isn't illegal.

It can be illegal if it depicts CP or other content considered "obscene" by law.

DateDoc 07-07-2010 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EliteWebmaster (Post 17315888)
Can anyone help fill me in as I don't know much about the history of Pornhub.

Were they an illegal tube site? Wouldn't they have gotten shut down? Sorry, this is one topic which I'm not too familiar with. Anyone care to tell me more please

Why didn't they get shut down if it is an 'illegal' tube? You'd have to prove they stole and uploaded the movies themselves for it to be illegal. No one has been able to do that yet.

Anna_Miller 07-07-2010 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DateDoc (Post 17316582)
Why didn't they get shut down if it is an 'illegal' tube? You'd have to prove they stole and uploaded the movies themselves for it to be illegal. No one has been able to do that yet.

They say.. "Oh that was a user submission. We didn't do that." Then they may or may not remove it. Then they continue to allow that user to post 2000 videos.

And/or they host overseas and just ignore you.

Anna_Miller 07-07-2010 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DateDoc (Post 17316582)
Why didn't they get shut down if it is an 'illegal' tube? You'd have to prove they stole and uploaded the movies themselves for it to be illegal. No one has been able to do that yet.

They say.. "Oh that was a user submission. We didn't do that." Then they may or may not remove it. Then they continue to allow that user to post 2000 videos.

And/or they host overseas and just ignore you.

punkpred 07-07-2010 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ The Kid (Post 17316394)
xshare also doing this

I noticed that too. They still do have a few very long vids though.

MPGdevil 07-07-2010 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17316193)

Quote:

Originally Posted by kristin (Post 17316566)
It can be illegal if it depicts CP or other content considered "obscene" by law.

Thanks, as said I haven't studied laws about this.
I was thinking about setting up a cartoon TGP but I see this a huge gray zone then. Anime/hentai sites pictures lot of sex with young schoolgirls and what about all the sites containing content from series like Simpsons, many Disney movies etc?

If above is correct then galleries and sites like these are illegal?

http://galleries.drawn-sex.com/tour4_2/index.html

http://cartoon-hentai.net/incredibles-porn/

gideongallery 07-07-2010 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EliteWebmaster (Post 17315888)
Can anyone help fill me in as I don't know much about the history of Pornhub.

Were they an illegal tube site? Wouldn't they have gotten shut down? Sorry, this is one topic which I'm not too familiar with. Anyone care to tell me more please

it because ther not illegal that just a made up term for tube sites protected by the safe harbor provision of the DMCA.

it like saying all porn is illegal if you ignore the bill of rights.the protection of the bill of rights.

EliteWebmaster 07-07-2010 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DateDoc (Post 17316582)
Why didn't they get shut down if it is an 'illegal' tube? You'd have to prove they stole and uploaded the movies themselves for it to be illegal. No one has been able to do that yet.

Oh I see :(

xxxjay 07-08-2010 12:57 AM

By "legit" - I mean I am seeing a lot more 5-8 minute videos linked through to a sponsor (which is something they could have done all along and made decent $$$).

Kind of similar to what redtube has done.

Dirty Dane 07-08-2010 03:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MPGdevil (Post 17316775)
Thanks, as said I haven't studied laws about this.
I was thinking about setting up a cartoon TGP but I see this a huge gray zone then. Anime/hentai sites pictures lot of sex with young schoolgirls and what about all the sites containing content from series like Simpsons, many Disney movies etc?

If above is correct then galleries and sites like these are illegal?

http://galleries.drawn-sex.com/tour4_2/index.html

http://cartoon-hentai.net/incredibles-porn/

People have been convicted for simply possessing obscene Simpson cartoons. As 488 refered to it's illegal in several countries no matter what, including U.K., Canada, Australia, Sweden. More countries will follow soon.

I could care less if some kids at school think it's funny to draw Bart Simpson with a huge fucking cock. But the moment you put it on an adult site, like pornhub, it's another context. It's the fastest way to get your site blocked on search engines and ISP filters. It's not good for this industry, it gives anti-porn politicians another excuse to target the industry. And seriously, you have to ask yourself, even if it's legal and virtual, what exactly does it endorse? :disgust

Agent 488 07-08-2010 03:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MPGdevil (Post 17316775)
Thanks, as said I haven't studied laws about this.
I was thinking about setting up a cartoon TGP but I see this a huge gray zone then. Anime/hentai sites pictures lot of sex with young schoolgirls and what about all the sites containing content from series like Simpsons, many Disney movies etc?

If above is correct then galleries and sites like these are illegal?

http://galleries.drawn-sex.com/tour4_2/index.html

http://cartoon-hentai.net/incredibles-porn/

go ahead. what could go wrong?

Paul Markham 07-08-2010 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seeandsee (Post 17315892)
all tubes are legit, did't you know that?

If they take down a video after getting a DMCA they are legal according to the law and upheld in court.


When the industry realises Tubes are here to stay and the only way to get customers back is to win them back, the industry might survive. If not it will go down. :(


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