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SykkBoy 07-13-2010 01:02 PM

Sponsors Seem To be Forgetting Something These Days...
 
I'm constantly trying out and evaluating new sponsors these days, but something I'm finding, and this might be a part of the reason for declining revenues...
landing/sales pages have gotten lazy.

Sponsors are falling all over themselves to provide RSS feeds, hosted galleries, content, FLV content, etc. etc. and are providing these new tools for affiliates, but they seem to be skimping on the most important part of the equation: landing/sales pages.

They are full of grammar errors, slopping spelling, sales messages that are generic and bland.

Is anyone watching the ebook/biz opp guys these days? Look at those landing pages.....they are well thought out, well written and actually SELL the product. They are full of hype and smoke and mirrors and fancy talk, but most importantly, they add little things that keep you there and pay $20-50 for an ebook or piece of software that you might not have even really thought about buying before.

Part of this "adapt or die" mantra is being forgotten...adapt doesn't mean you have to have all of your content on tubes and pray for some dating upsells. It means improving your sales message. Just adding a short video clip and an order form with a couple sales words isn't going to cut it.

If you are selling penis pills, a picture of a kindly old doctor, a couple testimonials and an order form aren't going to make the cut. The ratios will drop and sales are being left on the table for those who actually sell the product itself and not just the "try it free" aspect.

Adult used to be full on innovators and leaders in new media and new ideas, but have fallen behind. They've shipped all of the design/coding/text jobs overseas to the lowest bidder and are shocked that sales are down. Sure tubes and such aren't helping, but just throwing shit against a wall and hoping some will stick doesn't make it these days.

Look at the companies that have been dropping like flies. Have any of them honestly done much innovating? Have the tried anything new? Most were bored and left because they were out of ideas, didn't give a shit or just relied on cross sales and 10 console exit chains.

Social networks are doing well and people are using them every day, but has anyone in adult really embraced the idea of community sites and actually giving some..gasp...value to their sites? A couple webcams and a social network script isn't going to work there either.

I talked about this years ago, how porn was going to become a loss leader and it was met with skepticism and in some cases, a head in the sand approach. Not that I was this great prophet. There were other voices regarding this change too.

Hmm, maybe I should turn this into an article? ;-)

If any alternative sponsors (non-porn membership) want to work with me on setting up some custom/semi-custom landing pages, let's talk. Ebooks, software downloads (non-toolbar, spyware), social networking/communities, pills, etc. I'm not asking for the world here and demanding everything under the sun, but if a couple sponsors want to work with me, I'll show them what we can do together. Hell, I'm even offering to do a lot of the work here. I also don't expect these pages to be turned around in a couple hours. It's fine if it takes a little time to get your designers on them to make them work right. I want QUALITY landing pages/sales pages, and don't want something that is turned out by your philippino design team in 2 hours. I might even take a few select porn membership site sponsors, but that will be on a rare, case by case basis.

That said, if I don't feel my traffic will do well with a product, I won't waste my time or yours.

Stef. 07-13-2010 01:23 PM

Great article man! :)
You stand up strong

Amputate Your Head 07-13-2010 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SykkBoy2 (Post 17332492)
a picture of a kindly old doctor, a couple testimonials and an order form aren't going to make the cut.

So, what you're saying is we should use pics of hot young female doctors then? :Graucho

ThumbLord 07-13-2010 01:30 PM

very nice, can I copy this to my little board?

B2BwithJoeD 07-13-2010 01:32 PM

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Brujah 07-13-2010 02:51 PM

Great read, and a nice reminder for all of us to freshen up our sales pitch.

SykkBoy 07-13-2010 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThumbLord (Post 17332577)
very nice, can I copy this to my little board?

Quote:

Originally Posted by B2BwithJoeD (Post 17332581)
Excellent post.

Can I reprint the article? :)

By all means.

SykkBoy 07-13-2010 03:23 PM

It also hasn't escaped me that this post about spelling mistakes, sloppiness, etc. has a couple themselves ;-)

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ThumbLord 07-13-2010 03:28 PM

thank you for the permission, it is noted.

SykkBoy 07-13-2010 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17332573)
So, what you're saying is we should use pics of hot young female doctors then? :Graucho

That probably wouldn't hurt ;-)

SykkBoy 07-13-2010 03:44 PM

Here is an example of a sales page that converts like mad...granted it's not porn and fairly genre specific (it's a gaming guide for WOW)

http://www.zygorguides.com/

Look and read and UNDERSTAND what is going on with the sales message here. Granted, porn surfers might have shorter attention spans and won't read an extra long scroll, but something similar can work with adult.

This would be a nice change of pace in adult over the standard tour page/tour page/join page design for tours now. Imagine a porn surfer hitting something similar....it doesn't even look like a typical porn tour, so those who automatically click the back button when they see a standard generic tour...just might be curious and stick around longer and be disarmed.

closer 07-13-2010 03:53 PM

I always liked those comparison tables! Often the only thing I look at, no matter what type of site I am at

Barefootsies 07-13-2010 03:53 PM

Good read buddy. Thanks for taking the time.

:thumbsup

SykkBoy 07-13-2010 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by closer (Post 17332906)
I always liked those comparison tables! Often the only thing I look at, no matter what type of site I am at

Yup, I could see those being used on porn sites for sure...plus dating and cam sites....hmm....

alias 07-13-2010 04:48 PM

We were just talking about this today, landing pages are king. Case in point: 2nd page SERP for a decent term with 0 join page hits ever. Meanwhile we watch way less prominent terms converting at under 1:200 all time.

SykkBoy 07-14-2010 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alias (Post 17333030)
We were just talking about this today, landing pages are king. Case in point: 2nd page SERP for a decent term with 0 join page hits ever. Meanwhile we watch way less prominent terms converting at under 1:200 all time.

Yeah, too many sponsors (even the "big boys") often managed to find success with one or two methods and stuck with those and rode them out until the end. Even if tubes weren't around, there are a lot of new things we simply aren't doing in adult and if we did, ratios would rebound. Not to 1999 ratios, but better than they have been.

All the traffic to a landing page in the world won't work if the sales message isn't getting through.

Nick-Mindgeek 07-14-2010 09:49 AM

Well said

:winkwink:

ilbb 07-14-2010 10:01 AM

I've to agree with you...mainstreem biz is for miles in front of adult

Dating Port 07-14-2010 08:16 PM

Great read! Thanks for a very well putr article.

Ninja Scripts 07-15-2010 01:27 AM

I'm convinced that 99% of site owners are complete morons. I'm not sure how big of a bounce new landing pages would give but it would be significant. Problem is, these monkeys couldn't figure out how to make a good landing page if one bit them on the dick. They definitely aren't going to pay someone to figure it out for them.


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