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RayVega 08-24-2010 08:08 PM

Ancestry.com has finally paid off! Look at this family tree!
 
OK This is crazy! This is the result of two years of research. It's AMAZING!I left the last four generations off to keep my family Private, you'll have to take my word for it. It starts at the bottom with me, and goes up...Gets real interesting around the 30th Great Grandparents.


Mariamne I ?the Hasmonean?[D29BCE] and Husband Herrod the Great [74-4BCE]
Aristobolus Arria and Wife Berenice Idumea
Titus Flavious Sabinus II and Wife Mariamne Ariia Elder
>>SPLIT Line - Mariamne Ariia Caecena Line


Gaius Julius Caesar I and Wife Unknown
Gaius Julius Caesar II and Wife Marcia Regia
Gaius Julius Caesar the Elder[140BC-85BC] and Wife Aurelia Cotta [120BC-54BC]
Gaius Julius Caesar Emperor of Rome[100BC-44BC] and Wife Lucia Calpurnia Piso
Marcus Julius Antonius Gneius Caesar and Wife Plancina
Gaius Calpernius Caesonius Piso and Wife Mariamne Ariia Caecena << SPLIT LINE
Arrius Antonius Piso and wife Bionia Procilla
Marcu Ulpius Trajan[80-117] and wife Pompeia Plotina Piso[B90]
Julianus Calpernius Piso[B100] and Wife Domitia Lucila Tranjanus[B100]
Marcus Flavius Valerius Constantius[250-306] and wife Saint Helena [248-330]
Flavia Fausta[289-326] and Husband Constantine I Holy Roman Emperor[285-337]
Constantius III Of Rome [D410] and Wife Aielia Galla Placidia [392-450]
Flavius Placidus Valentinianys [419-455] and Wife Eudoxia Lucinia [422-462]
Eudocia [439-474] and husband Hunneric the Vandals [477-484]
Hilderic The vandals [460-533] and Wife Amfleda The Younger[D496]
Hildis Af Vandals and husband King Cynric [534-560]
Moalda Digri Kinriksdatter[B594] and husband Halfdan ?The violent? Solfasson[590-650]
Solveig Halfdansson [B684] and husband Olaf Ingjaldsson [682-]
Halfdan Olafsson [704-] and wife Asa Eysteinsdatter [B708]
Gudrod Hunterking Halfdansson [738-810] and wife Asa Haraldsdtr [B742]
Mrs Olaf Gudrodsson and husband Olaf Gudrodsson [780-840]
Rognvald Olafsson [782-850] and wife Mrs Rognvald Olafsson
Ascrida Rognvaldsdatter[816-850] and Husband Eystein Glumra Ivarsson[B820]
Rognvald I Eysteinsson [852-890] and Wife Hildir Ragenhild [B858]
Rollo Viking King of Normandy [870-932] and Wife Poppa De Bayeux [B872]
William 1 longsword [893-942 ] and Wife Sporte DeBretagne [B911]
Richard 1 Fearless [935-996] & Mrs Richard I Concubine [D1033]
Geoffroy Count Brionne[D1015] & Mrs Geoffrey [D1015] (Normandy, France)
Gilbert Brionne(1000-1040) & Gunnora DaAunou [D1024] (Normandy, France)
Richard FitzGilbert[1024-1090] & Rohese Giffard [1034-1133]( Normandy, France)
Gilbert FitzRichard Declare[1065-1115] & Adeliza DeClermont[1058-1117] (London, England)
Richard Declare[1085-1136] & Alice DeMeschines[1094-1128] (Hertfordshire,England)
Roger Declare[1116-1173] & Maud DeSaintHilary [1132-1193] (Norfolk, England)
Richard Declare[1162-1218] & Amice Fitzrobert [1160-1225] (Kent, England)
Gilbert Declare[1182-1230] & Isabell Marshall [1200-1240](Bretagne, France)
Richard Declare[1222-1262] & Maud Delacy [1223-1289](Lincolnshire England)
Gilbert Declare[1243-1295] & Joan Plantagenet [1272-1307] (Suffolk, England)
Gilbert Declare ii[1291-1314] & Elanore Decastle [1291]( Gloucestershire, England)
Thomas Declarke[1350] & Elanore Rowlinge (1350AD)(Kent, England)
Thomas Clerke[1375-1446] & Sarah(Kent, England)
John Clerke[1394-1482] & Unknown (Kent, England)
John Clerke ii[1420-1480] & Alice Tatesham [1425-1480] (Kent, England)
John Clerke iii[1448-1497] & Lucia Moyle [1450-1494](Kent, England)
James Clerke[1485-1554] & Elizabeth Ferrers [1486-1558] (Kent, England)
John Clarke[1503-1559] & Margaret Clarke[1515-1565] (Suffolk, England)
John Clarke[1541-1598] & Dennisee Shene [1546-1595] (Suffolk, England)
Robert Clarke[1593-1619] & Mary Futter (1577-1617](Suffolk, England)
Robert Clarke ii[1610-1664] & Winifred Seyborne (1612-1656)(Maryland USA)
Robert Clarke iii[1652-1725] & Sara Combs (1657-1696) (Maryland USA)
Thomas Clarke[1690-1746] & Mary Jane Crispin (1686-1765AD) (Pittsylvania Virginia)
Thomas Clark [1720-1790 ] & Agnes Owens [1730-1803] (VA)
John Clarke [1736-1808] & Betty Gardener [1740-1800] (VA)
Agnes Clarke [1765-1795] & John Rudd [1763-1835] (VA)
Osborne Rudd [1800-1872] & Elizabeth Fisher [1805-1860](IN)
Louisa Jane Rudd [1836-1919] & James Madison Kirhkam [1833-1905](IN)
Alice Kirkham [1858-1944] & Samuel A Reives [1852-1934] (PA)
Bessie XXXXXX [1886-?] & Frank XXXXXXX [1885-?] (NY)--My great grand parents
Frank XXXXXXX [1908-1996] & Lila X XXXXXXX [1918-1977](NY)--My grandparents
XXXXXXX XXXXX & XXXXXXX XXXXXXX (NY) --My parents
Raymond XXXXXXXXX (AKA Ray Vega) (NY)--Me

OH yea!:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

GTS Mark 08-24-2010 08:10 PM

So what you are basically saying is that you're related to Julius Ceasar?

RayVega 08-24-2010 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTS Mark (Post 17439553)
So what you are basically saying is that you're related to Julius Ceasar?

Thats what the tree says....Direct descendant. No cousins, or marriage, we are talking direct bloodline here.

CyberHustler 08-24-2010 08:15 PM

Now lets see who gives a fuck...

RayVega 08-24-2010 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NanoBot (Post 17439563)
Now lets see who gives a fuck...

...Jealous

Blackamooka 08-24-2010 08:19 PM

Dude, I think you been had, cause that doesn't just say you're related to Caesar. It also says you're directly related to Constantine, not to mention ties to the Merovingian bloodline. I'm pretty sure you would have known about that long before going to ancestry.com, not to mention, you would probably require some sort of executive security.

cam_girls 08-24-2010 08:19 PM

Yeh and I just got offered a Gig with the worlds most famous psychic on the TV show The Psychic Detective!

xmas13 08-24-2010 08:30 PM

http://www.arngren.net/APE-Hode.ww258_zm1.jpg

RayVega 08-24-2010 08:32 PM

Now, now, everyone just slow down here. It,s actually legit. I've had it checked by a professional historian/professor at stonybrook university here on the island. However, there are several points where assumptions are made, for example where the Viking line crosses over to the roman line. It's based on mentions in several works of writings which of course are not official accounts of history so a DNA test will have to be taken to help verify it. History, especially during the dark ages is pretty weak but as far as accuracy it's about as close as someone can get. DNA testing will show maternal markers that match strains that pinpoint geographic areas at certain times so then I'll be 99 percent. Right now it's a close 90 though. No shit.

RayVega 08-24-2010 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xmas13 (Post 17439580)

Uncle Fred!

Blackamooka 08-24-2010 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RayVega (Post 17439583)
Now, now, everyone just slow down here. It,s actually legit. I've had it checked by a professional historian/professor at stonybrook university here on the island. However, there are several points where assumptions are made, for example where the Viking line crosses over to the roman line. It's based on mentions in several works of writings which of course are not official accounts of history so a DNA test will have to be taken to help verify it. History, especially during the dark ages is pretty weak but as far as accuracy it's about as close as someone can get. DNA testing will show maternal markers that match strains that pinpoint geographic areas at certain times so then I'll be 99 percent. Right now it's a close 90 though. No shit.

Well, to put this into context, the descendants of the Merovingian kings are all under executive security protection. Even the nobodies. They don't exactly fuck around with that shit. There are legitimate security concerns.

lagcam 08-24-2010 08:39 PM

Your great grand parents are still alive aged 124 and 125?

Also, what exactly will you be matching your DNA to?

Did Caesar have the foresight to have a sample preserved?

RayVega 08-24-2010 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackamooka (Post 17439594)
Well, to put this into context, the descendants of the Merovingian kings are all under executive security protection. Even the nobodies. They don't exactly fuck around with that shit. There are legitimate security concerns.

Well I'm going in for that dna test in a week. We'll see. :thumbsup
I could deal with some security, and perhaps some inheritance if I have some coming...believe me I!ll be looking into it.

Rochard 08-24-2010 08:41 PM

My father died when I was nine months old, and I was never close to my father's side of the family. I never knew anything about my family history. I met the "family historian" when I was thirty-three, and it just so happen that she works full time at a college as a Genealogist - someone who traces family trees, etc.

I was stunned to learn I was Irish.

lagcam 08-24-2010 08:42 PM

How was this possible?

Agnes Clarke [1765-1795] & John Rudd [1763-1835] (VA)
Osborne Rudd [1800-1872] & Elizabeth Fisher [1805-1860](IN)

RayVega 08-24-2010 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lagcam (Post 17439600)
Your great grand parents are still alive aged 124 and 125?

Also, what exactly will you be matching your DNA to?

Did Caesar have the foresight to have a sample preserved?

Alive? Who said that? Read my entry above, also I explain the DNA thing.

Blackamooka 08-24-2010 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RayVega (Post 17439605)
Well I'm going in for that dna test in a week. We'll see. :thumbsup
I could deal with some security, and perhaps some inheritance if I have some coming...believe me I!ll be looking into it.

I don't think you understand. No inheritance. Some security. No more posting on the boards. No more drawing attention to yourself. Nice. Quiet. Existence....

Careful what you wish for. :2 cents:

BlackCrayon 08-24-2010 08:44 PM

these sites let you believe what you want, more or less. its not hard to make "mistakes" when you base these findings on often sketchy records at best.

RayVega 08-24-2010 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lagcam (Post 17439607)
How was this possible?

Agnes Clarke [1765-1795] & John Rudd [1763-1835] (VA)
Osborne Rudd [1800-1872] & Elizabeth Fisher [1805-1860](IN)

There are about ten spots where the years are wrong. Two explanations in at least two cases a mother dies in childbirth or while the child is young and the grand parent become parents of record in the church and in other cases they are just plain wrong. You can find the same person quoted as living give or take 20 years. I had the same question.

RayVega 08-24-2010 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 17439611)
these sites let you believe what you want, more or less. its not hard to make "mistakes" when you base these findings on often sketchy records at best.

Sketchy records, absolutely. But the bloodlines are as accurate as can be expected. One thing in my favor is from the 1600's back, it's all aristocrats and royalty so there are multiple sources to cross reference.

baddog 08-24-2010 08:53 PM

Interesting.

cambaby 08-24-2010 08:54 PM

Ray you noob.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_degrees_of_separation

One of those people in your list is related to Obama too.

RayVega 08-24-2010 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cambaby (Post 17439630)
Ray you noob.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_degrees_of_separation

One of those people in your list is related to Obama too.

Degrees of separation is one thing, we are talking direct bloodline here.

dyna mo 08-24-2010 09:02 PM

it's not impossible, although i am assuming there can be direct ascendants after all this time and that a family tree can be accurately determined that far back

cam_girls 08-24-2010 09:03 PM

I wouldn't rely on genealogical records carved in stone from those times.

Forget it! How on Earth could every single one of your ancestors along one line keep legitimate records throughout the medieval period? Were you 100 generations of royalty?

I'm not knocking your claim, but take it with a grain of salt.

RayVega 08-24-2010 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cam_girls (Post 17439648)
I wouldn't rely on genealogical records carved in stone from those times.

Forget it! How on Earth could every single one of your ancestors along one line keep legitimate records throughout the medieval period? Were you 100 generations of royalty?

I'm not knocking your claim, but take it with a grain of salt.

Well, at first I was like "bullshit" because I figured ancestry wants me to renew my subscription. But then my nanny put me in touch with her sister in law who is a professor of history and genealogical studies (or something like that) and she said she would look at it for me...I got an email today saying that aside from some of the years, the bloodline looks accurate. At this point I'm starting to believe. It could be...

DateDoc 08-24-2010 09:31 PM

Ray Caesar!

Supz 08-24-2010 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTS Mark (Post 17439553)
So what you are basically saying is that you're related to Julius Ceasar?

No, He is saying he is related to John Clarke. Ex-GFY tubesite and design mastermind

Mr. Cool Ice 08-24-2010 10:37 PM

I am directly related to Jesus Christ.

2012 08-24-2010 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xmas13 (Post 17439580)

http://i37.tinypic.com/2vcez40.jpg

Agent 488 08-24-2010 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cam_girls (Post 17439648)
I wouldn't rely on genealogical records carved in stone from those times.

Forget it! How on Earth could every single one of your ancestors along one line keep legitimate records throughout the medieval period? Were you 100 generations of royalty?

I'm not knocking your claim, but take it with a grain of salt.

words of wisdom.

d-null 08-24-2010 11:37 PM

it is in ancestry.com's best interests to take those leaps and assumptions, it's good for business

I say fuck ancestry.com, you should be going straight to the church records yourself, and the instant you have to make any leaps or assumptions is where your trail can be assumed inaccurate (but from what I've seen these leaps and assumptions are ancestry.com's bread and butter)

surprisingly church records are extremely accurate and go back far in the centuries

The Ghost 08-24-2010 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 17439611)
these sites let you believe what you want, more or less. its not hard to make "mistakes" when you base these findings on often sketchy records at best.

:2 cents:

There's multiple ways to follow the family trees. It's almost like one of those 'choose your own adventure' books.

CyberHustler 08-25-2010 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RayVega (Post 17439565)
...Jealous

Of what?

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 08-25-2010 01:42 AM

The only famous person I think I am somehow related to (by six degrees of separation) is:

http://thetoplistonline.com/images/T...evin-Bacon.jpg

Actually, I am related to the actress Shirley Temple and the great inventor James Watt.

ADG

cam_girls 08-25-2010 03:53 AM

I'm going to call BS.

21 Centuries * 3 generations per century = 63 generations
You have shown 60 to 100BC.

So the AVERAGE age of your ancestors when they had their child was about 35.

200 years ago the average life expectancy was 35.

ottopottomouse 08-25-2010 04:03 AM

My mum has done a load of family history research and i've lost count of the amount of times she has gone off in completely the wrong direction only to find out later and have to start again.

Horny Joe 08-25-2010 04:10 AM

Hey, you are related to Flavius Placidus Valentinianys, too!! :D

erooup 08-25-2010 04:29 AM

I'm sorry to break this to you, but the 3 first Caesar's were not blood related. It was a titel given to them, and they took on the last persons name.

bloggerz 08-25-2010 05:02 AM

funny thread lol

Quagmire 08-25-2010 05:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 17439606)
My father died when I was nine months old, and I was never close to my father's side of the family. I never knew anything about my family history. I met the "family historian" when I was thirty-three, and it just so happen that she works full time at a college as a Genealogist - someone who traces family trees, etc.

I was stunned to learn I was Irish.

I am not going to lie. This is the first thing I thought of when I read your post

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_DS7SHpfvEs...00/TheJerk.jpg

area51 - BANNED FOR LIFE 08-25-2010 05:08 AM

rofl classic thread

fris 08-25-2010 05:28 AM

im related to the pope

RayVega 08-25-2010 05:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cam_girls (Post 17440008)
I'm going to call BS.

21 Centuries * 3 generations per century = 63 generations
You have shown 60 to 100BC.

So the AVERAGE age of your ancestors when they had their child was about 35.

200 years ago the average life expectancy was 35.

Hate all you want...I know the truth. Hail ceasar!

ShellyCrash 08-25-2010 05:35 AM

I'm italian, curious to see if it gives me the same result.

cam_girls 08-25-2010 06:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShellyCrash (Post 17440121)
I'm italian, curious to see if it gives me the same result.

If a woman with a dick is called a tranny, what do you call a man with a cunt?



An Italian woman

CaptainHowdy 08-25-2010 06:18 AM

That is much more believeable than a "past lives" report...

Jman 08-25-2010 06:24 AM

Don't let it get to your head.... LOL

RayVega 08-25-2010 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jean-Francois (Post 17440178)
Don't let it get to your head.... LOL

Kind of hard, I mean...I am royalty ya know:pimp

RayVega 08-25-2010 06:50 AM

50 Royal Relatives


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