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Shap 09-23-2010 08:47 PM

I'm Getting My Lawyers to contact St Kitts (Re: EPASS) tomorrow if you need help step inside
 
Hi Guys. I just read the news. I'm going to get my lawyers on this and find out what is going on. If you have over $1000 in your VV account and need some help in the matter let me know. I'll see what I can do to help out everyone who is in need.

If any other sponsors want to step in and join in on this with me let me know. I can tell from the posts that most people won't even call and are going to rely on others for the information.

I'd like to do my part to help you guys out and make sure if there is any money disbursed as many of you get paid out as possible.

moeloubani 09-23-2010 08:48 PM

i have none in VV ($9) but im happy someone is doing this because im curious :)

Meorazhar 09-23-2010 08:49 PM

hey Shap,
Count me in

BetChips 09-23-2010 08:50 PM

I definitely would like help trying to get my $6,000 from my epassporte account. Please let me know what you might need me to do to try to get the ball rolling. I have tried calling St. Kitts but their business hours arent happening right now. ICQ 471 716 991

Choker 09-23-2010 08:53 PM

Good idea. I'm still optimistic about this situation. Funds in the wallet are under epass control which is where my money is. What is scaring me is the recent ach withdrawels not working. I still think Chris will pull a rabbit out of his hat and save the day.

lol_cat 09-23-2010 08:54 PM

I have 30K in total on my VV, and my partners VV. If you have an email address or something, I can pass over all information. Forgive me if I "should" know, my business isn't adult it's server management and hosting.

Keep us informed!

Sharky 09-23-2010 08:54 PM

Good on you Shap. I don't have $1k in there, but I'd still like to know what the hell is going on.

Adraco 09-23-2010 08:55 PM

Way to take charge! I humbly salute and join in.

SomeCreep 09-23-2010 08:55 PM

I'd like to know what really happened that caused Visa to shut down Epassporte.

Tempest 09-23-2010 08:56 PM

I'm more concerned about the money in the wallet now..

Ethersync 09-23-2010 08:58 PM

It's good of you to offer help Shap. I know many need it.

sologirlcontent 09-23-2010 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choker (Post 17533384)
Good idea. I'm still optimistic about this situation. Funds in the wallet are under epass control which is where my money is. What is scaring me is the recent ach withdrawels not working. I still think Chris will pull a rabbit out of his hat and save the day.

he is saving the day..for his own ass, not yours

Shap 09-23-2010 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sharky (Post 17533389)
Good on you Shap. I don't have $1k in there, but I'd still like to know what the hell is going on.

I'll keep everyone posted. I don't expect any of us to get anything but a prepared statement tomorrow.

I'm hoping there is power in numbers and a legal route with a controlled organized approach may be better for the bank. If they will pay out I'm sure they'd rather deal with one large group which provides the proper documentation to the bank in an organized and timely manner vs 2000 smaller guys calling and blowing up their lines. It's all about jumping to the front of the line and getting a piece of any money that is paid out.

PSD 09-23-2010 08:59 PM

that's nice of you to offer and I'd appreciate any help. I emailed the bank and was going to call tommorrow morning.

Slap Dot 09-23-2010 08:59 PM

Hey,
I have over 1k in my VV account. I am down. Hit me up.

josh.jennings at gmail dot com

icq: 190444

Supz 09-23-2010 09:00 PM

Shap, I have a lot of respect for what you do in this business. You are obviously a smart guy. I am glad you are willing to help people who are having issues from this, hope real people in need come to you instead of someone trying to scam a couple of bucks. I just want to know how you feel about the fact that a week or so ago, you were verbally blowing mallick, you got your wire. Now this happens?

Fatalspeed 09-23-2010 09:01 PM

Sure, we could help each other out. Close to 20k stuck here... fatalspeed -at- gmail -dot- com if you want to get in touch. Everyone should be calling the bank tomorrow, at least we will know if we can get our funds out or not, or what they require us to do. It is our hard earned money for god sake. If they say we should be talking to Epassporte at least we know what we're into...

signupdamnit 09-23-2010 09:01 PM

Shap, nice gesture on your part. :thumbsup

wolfshade 09-23-2010 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 17533367)
Hi Guys. I just read the news. I'm going to get my lawyers on this and find out what is going on. If you have over $1000 in your VV account and need some help in the matter let me know. I'll see what I can do to help out everyone who is in need.

If any other sponsors want to step in and join in on this with me let me know. I can tell from the posts that most people won't even call and are going to rely on others for the information.

I'd like to do my part to help you guys out and make sure if there is any money disbursed as many of you get paid out as possible.

Finally! I have no stake in this but it is good to see somebody standing up and taking this head on.

Respect and good luck!

Shap 09-23-2010 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SomeCreep (Post 17533393)
I'd like to know what really happened that caused Visa to shut down Epassporte.

My best guess is this.
- The bank pulled the plug on Epass.
- Epass tried to get things turned back on. The bank was playing games and refused or had good reason and refused.
- After 3 weeks Epass probably has seen that legally they won't get it turned back on and legally the bank is responsible (would be interesting to see if that's in our terms and conditions) for the money.

So what does epass do? They've been thrown in the mud and their business all but destroyed. Pass the buck and throw the bank under the bus. If legally the bank is responsible then Epass may have just played their last possible card in staying in business.

That's 100% guess based on nothing but my own imagination.

bloggerz 09-23-2010 09:05 PM

i have a few k's in VV .. please email me eroticweb>gmail with some details

AzteK 09-23-2010 09:08 PM

Shap, thank you for stepping in. I do have 1k+ or (had) and I look forward to your response here. If you need us to get a hold of you for whatever reason, please provide us with your contact information.

famous 09-23-2010 09:08 PM

I have over 1k in VV webmaster at famouspornstars.com or just have mike hit me up ;)

Kenny B! 09-23-2010 09:08 PM

Luckily all my money was in my wallet, but good on you shap for heading this

lagcam 09-23-2010 09:10 PM

Shap if you doing this WITHOUT having phoned them first to enquire as to the process fro getting your funds then you are being over dramatic for no reason.

If you have called them and dont like the proposed procedure then why are you not sharing that said procedure?

People with cards registered in names they can prove should be ok.

Personally for me the wallet has now become more vulnerable than virtual visa. Visa nd the bank will have procedures, and both have said the money is safe. (if you can prove id I imagine)

Lawyers should be directed at epassporte rather than the bank surely?

Shap 09-23-2010 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supz (Post 17533407)
Shap, I have a lot of respect for what you do in this business. You are obviously a smart guy. I am glad you are willing to help people who are having issues from this, hope real people in need come to you instead of someone trying to scam a couple of bucks. I just want to know how you feel about the fact that a week or so ago, you were verbally blowing mallick, you got your wire. Now this happens?

To be honest I blew every person I knew at epassporte, i blew every person I knew that knew someone at epassporte and then I blew every person that ever heard of epassporte. I've spent 14 years busting my ass working hard for my money. I do not let it get away from me easily. When it looked like a very real possibility I was going to lose that money I went to work around the clock to get paid. And after I got paid I went to work for everyone who hit me up asking for help and helped them get paid as well. I didn't post that here but I made a post that said use your connections and relationships to try to jump to the front of the line when there is a crisis.

I also feel I was very careful with my posts. My message was always the following.
- when wires starting going out that was a good sign. If you are going to pick up and run you don't send out $5,000,000 in wires.
- I still think in a situation like this there was benefit to having someone like Mallick who's pulled rabbits out of his ass in the past and has a reputation of getting his clients every penny they are owed.
- i never said start using epass. I just said don't throw dirt on their grave just yet. Especially don't hang the messenger (Michael O) because he was all we had and eventually after enough shit he'd leave.

Supz 09-23-2010 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 17533415)
My best guess is this.
- The bank pulled the plug on Epass.
- Epass tried to get things turned back on. The bank was playing games and refused or had good reason and refused.
- After 3 weeks Epass probably has seen that legally they won't get it turned back on and legally the bank is responsible (would be interesting to see if that's in our terms and conditions) for the money.

So what does epass do? They've been thrown in the mud and their business all but destroyed. Pass the buck and throw the bank under the bus. If legally the bank is responsible then Epass may have just played their last possible card in staying in business.

That's 100% guess based on nothing but my own imagination.

Then why did the blame Visa and not the bank in the first place and not the bank?

MobiusMike 09-23-2010 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 17533367)
Hi Guys. I just read the news. I'm going to get my lawyers on this and find out what is going on. If you have over $1000 in your VV account and need some help in the matter let me know. I'll see what I can do to help out everyone who is in need.

If any other sponsors want to step in and join in on this with me let me know. I can tell from the posts that most people won't even call and are going to rely on others for the information.

I'd like to do my part to help you guys out and make sure if there is any money disbursed as many of you get paid out as possible.

Shap, I think that's a really great offer on your part. If I could stick my two cents in:

To add pressure to the situation, I would also suggest that your local counsel make a formal demand for an investigation of SKNA by the St. Kitts Financial Regulatory Agency and by VISA International for violation of VISA Rules/Regulations/By-laws concerning the appropriate administration of VISA card programs.

SKNA should be under the charter of VISA South/Central America region (offices in Miami). Further, SKNA is an extremely large merchant acquiring bank for adult and continuity. I would further demand that, in light of the irregularities with e-Passporte, that VISA conduct a full investigation of their licensure of SKNA both on the issuing and acquiring side.

VISA is big on "Protecting Their Brand", so perhaps adding pressure from the licensing authority (VISA) and the regulatory authority would move things along faster.

Shap 09-23-2010 09:12 PM

Btw Keep your eye on this thread. I'm not going to hit up anybody until I know what the situation is. I'll be on the phone with my lawyer first thing in the morning and getting him going on this. I won't need any details until he gets an idea of what we are dealing with.

Shap 09-23-2010 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supz (Post 17533434)
Then why did the blame Visa and not the bank in the first place and not the bank?

If you have a problem with someone and you are trying to sweet talk them would you throw them under the bus? By throwing visa under the bus they were probably hoping to get St Kitts to cooperate.

Visa flat out said they did what st kitts asked them to do. It was a banking problem from the beginning.

18teens 09-23-2010 09:16 PM

Count me in Shap. I have $1300.00 in my Virtual Visa.

USA 09-23-2010 09:16 PM

I have $1.1k on my VV card

SJCollegeboy 09-23-2010 09:17 PM

I would definitely like help. I have over $10k on my VV.

maxpower 09-23-2010 09:20 PM

I have about 3k

my ICQ is 565734147

I am sure its a loss, but thax for at least trying

st0ned 09-23-2010 09:21 PM

Count me in Shap. I have around over 1k locked in my account.

Good to see someone stepping up to the plate and doing something.

Contact is in sig. :thumbsup

bigalownz 09-23-2010 09:24 PM

i only got about $25 but money is money no mater how much it is

Phoenix66 09-23-2010 09:24 PM

I had only $700 in my VV, but I have much bigger amount on the wallet and can't get anything out of it, though I requested wire a long time ago. I suspect those money are gone as well.

Supz 09-23-2010 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 17533430)
To be honest I blew every person I knew at epassporte, i blew every person I knew that knew someone at epassporte and then I blew every person that ever heard of epassporte. I've spent 14 years busting my ass working hard for my money. I do not let it get away from me easily. When it looked like a very real possibility I was going to lose that money I went to work around the clock to get paid. And after I got paid I went to work for everyone who hit me up asking for help and helped them get paid as well. I didn't post that here but I made a post that said use your connections and relationships to try to jump to the front of the line when there is a crisis.

I also feel I was very careful with my posts. My message was always the following.
- when wires starting going out that was a good sign. If you are going to pick up and run you don't send out $5,000,000 in wires.
- I still think in a situation like this there was benefit to having someone like Mallick who's pulled rabbits out of his ass in the past and has a reputation of getting his clients every penny they are owed.
- i never said start using epass. I just said don't throw dirt on their grave just yet. Especially don't hang the messenger (Michael O) because he was all we had and eventually after enough shit he'd leave.

I appreciate the honesty.
I don't think anyone should blame michael o, maybe not even mallick,

Here are a few things I think might have happened

-To much gambling action, money transfers between people. Visa caught up with them.
-They were out of compliance for Visa
-The bank was out of compliance for Visa
-St Kitts Bank stole the money and beat epassporte

Just some thoughts.

If you have ever dealt with PCI compliance, there is no 1st warning.

Nurgle 09-23-2010 09:27 PM

good luck gettng some info mate!!!

Shap 09-23-2010 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supz (Post 17533478)
I appreciate the honesty.
I don't think anyone should blame michael o, maybe not even mallick,

Here are a few things I think might have happened

-To much gambling action, money transfers between people. Visa caught up with them.
-They were out of compliance for Visa
-The bank was out of compliance for Visa
-St Kitts Bank stole the money and beat epassporte

Just some thoughts.

If you have ever dealt with PCI compliance, there is no 1st warning.

Everything I've read about St Kitts bank is bad news. That part scares me.

Adam_M 09-23-2010 09:29 PM

I had a few thousand in my personal VV. Hit me up Shap

georgeyw 09-23-2010 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 17533485)
Everything I've read about St Kitts bank is bad news. That part scares me.

Any links you could share with re to St Kitts?

I only have a few hundred in epass, however would like to know what is actually going on.

Nurgle 09-23-2010 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 17533485)
Everything I've read about St Kitts bank is bad news. That part scares me.

http://www.fptci.com/index.php?optio... cal&Itemid=26

might scare u more

Slutboat 09-23-2010 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 17533430)
To be honest I blew every person I knew at epassporte, i blew every person I knew that knew someone at epassporte and then I blew every person that ever heard of epassporte. I've spent 14 years busting my ass working hard for my money. I do not let it get away from me easily. When it looked like a very real possibility I was going to lose that money I went to work around the clock to get paid. And after I got paid I went to work for everyone who hit me up asking for help and helped them get paid as well. I didn't post that here but I made a post that said use your connections and relationships to try to jump to the front of the line when there is a crisis.

I also feel I was very careful with my posts. My message was always the following.
- when wires starting going out that was a good sign. If you are going to pick up and run you don't send out $5,000,000 in wires.
- I still think in a situation like this there was benefit to having someone like Mallick who's pulled rabbits out of his ass in the past and has a reputation of getting his clients every penny they are owed.
- i never said start using epass. I just said don't throw dirt on their grave just yet. Especially don't hang the messenger (Michael O) because he was all we had and eventually after enough shit he'd leave.

Shap always seems to school people who fuck with him...

TzarJorge 09-23-2010 09:47 PM

My wife has about 1k in the account, thanks! let me know what we can do to help.

will76 09-23-2010 09:47 PM

You sure you still feel the same way ????

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 17490382)

First.. I’ve said this before and I think it’s worth repeating. This industry has had it’s fair share of companies that have gone under and disappeared with people’s money. Chris has been involved in a few situations where his companies ran into difficulties but EVERY single time those companies survived and paid everybody every single penny that was owed. I have never heard of a single person that Chris Mallick has screwed over. You may not like the guy but everything I’ve ever read shows that in a situation like this you WANT Chris Mallick involved. He’s our best chance at survival and getting paid. He fights his ass off and does whatever possible to make sure his clients get paid. That is huge in my opinion.


btw, did you at least get all of those wires you were waiting on ?

Also, since we haven't heard from Chris one time, is that because he is too busy fighting his ass off for us or hiding from us ?

will76 09-23-2010 09:51 PM

What happened to " the money is on the card" If the money is on the card then how can the bank show $0.00 balances.... so is the money really on the card and the cards are frozen or there is no money on the cards...

Supz 09-23-2010 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 17533485)
Everything I've read about St Kitts bank is bad news. That part scares me.

I believe it.

Well, I don't need any epass reimbursement, but if you are ever interested in giving out some knowledge, im sure your knowledge is worth a lot more then what i had in epass.

Good luck with your efforts.

V_RocKs 09-23-2010 10:00 PM

I would be very interested in seeing where this goes!

NaughtyRob 09-23-2010 10:01 PM

Just VV? Now I have $2,300 stuck in wallet.


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