After The Epass Shit I Hope You All Learned Your Lesson
 

Having a third party hold your money is just stupid when you can get a check.

I hope you guys aren't going to run to new middle men.

I for one am changing everything over to check. If you're a sponsor and you can't pay by check I will no longer promote you and I'll be changing or removing my links.

lol yeah right

buy your mom a trailer yet?

Good advice, for US webmasters only.

Check is safe ? Hmm, it can be lost, you can have car accident during your travel to bank, ufo can steal it etc. I think safest way is to walk personally to sponsor, take your money in gold nuggets and put them under your pillow.

Just keep a small balance at all times. Don't think of it as a bank account. :thumbsup

A better advice would be to continue using an e-money system, but make withdrawals on a regular basis. Then either deposit it on your bank or stuff it under your mattress, whichever you prefer.

Have a great weekend everyone...

have crack, will travel .

For many of us smaller webmasters $3-400 is still a nice chunk of money and having that much in a virtual account can't be helped when you can only draw out $300/day.

Saving up for that sex change operation I see, smart move Mike(or should I say Mickey).

Fuck you man, you're the biggest idiot on this board. everyone laughs at you and you keep coming back here. That shows that you're also psychotic.

I can't believe you guys are still looking for alternatives.

Try living in Europe for a while and deposit checks in USD, and you too will be looking for alternatives.

Enjoy getting screwed by the next industry run bro payment processor.

But isn't a check also allowing a third party to hold your money (temporarily)?

You still have to make sure your sponsor gives you the check, and has the account balance to back it up.

mike why dont you tell us the points story and how despite an entire forum tellling you you would lose your money you continued on anyways and ultimately lost all your money

hope you have learned your lesson

Dude, you are so out of the loop. I didn't collect all that money over years. It took me less than a year to get most of it from epass transfers. No one said anything to me until I passed 3k.

If anything everyone was transferring points to me without saying anything. Just shows you how scummy a lot of people in this industry are on both sides of the business.

Already knew this could happen so I only used it for smaller payments and withdraw fast. For bigger weekly payments I use SWIFT.

Sponsors however must fund with bigger amounts. Hopefully not too many of them are stucked.

Don't put all eggs in one basket. And that means ANYTHING related to this business.

epass is top notch. I'm sure they will have all this worked out soon.

It's been to long. They have already lost too much support. They will never come back from this even if everything is fixed tomorrow.

I'm just surprised that everyone is running to get another middle man.

Course Sponsors are ALL HONEST today, :1orglaugh:1orglaugh
Your money is safe as long as its not with an online bank right? :)

Omg lol :thumbsup

No but as I said, invariably any payment processor that works for adult is going to be run by adult industry people so you now have 2x chances of being screwed.

Any company in mainstream that deals with adult is going to find an excuse to screw them so you've got to run it through industry connections.

Unless you get one of the big programs with an almost stellar reputation to step up and start their own payment processor where their own company is on the line if it goes under you're going to get fucked.

Of course no one is going to do that because they know the bank could fuck them.

gotta be fdic insured

i think you are almost right mikesinner, but better go the whole way, and put a notice on your sites telling the customers you refer to affiliate programs to deduct your commission from their membership fee of the programs you support and send you a check direct... hmmmm or better cash, can't trust banks either.

fuck that going back to hahahahahahaha points.

mike when you are doing small $, p2p is best option and we must find solution

checks: slow, high fees and holds outside the US, bounce, get lost, have the wrong information on them.

i'm not going to send a $50 check to some guy in slovakia to try out some links or traffic.

it's 2010. checks suck.