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Paul Markham 10-16-2010 09:19 AM

Fibre optic cables' data capacity may soon be reached
 
Fibre optic cables' data capacity may soon be reached

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We may all increasingly need to get used to the idea that bandwidth - just like water and energy - is a valuable commodity to be used wisely?

End Quote David Richardson University of Southampton
Interesting article.

epitome 10-16-2010 09:22 AM

He is stating the obvious.

bronco67 10-16-2010 09:24 AM

If people would stop downloading blu ray copies of fucking Sandra Bullock movies, then maybe we wouldn't have a problem.

Machete_ 10-16-2010 09:25 AM

Japan doesn't seem to have this problem. Their cables capacity is 100x that of USA

Paul Markham 10-16-2010 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by epitome (Post 17613029)
He is stating the obvious.

It's not a new story, but increasingly being told.

zeuse 10-16-2010 09:32 AM

Looks like I'm going to be stuck on 750 kbps.

AdultEUhost 10-16-2010 11:34 AM

True but don't underestimate technology

Ethersync 10-16-2010 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 17613017)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_fibre

DamianJ 10-16-2010 11:59 AM

This 'story' has been repeated every couple of years since the internet started.

Ooh, we can't possibly have PICTURES, the network will collapse.

Oooh, we can't possibly have MUSIC, the network will collapse.


Oooh, we can't possibly have VIDEO, the network will collapse.


Oooh, we can't possibly STREAM VIDEO, the network will collapse.

Oh and then the stuff about running out of IP addresses.

Etc.

It's a non story.

Here's the BBC in 2007 saying we will run out by 2010.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/7103426.stm

And here is Cringely 3 years ago explaining about this bandwidth scarcity myth.

http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/2...05_003153.html

TidalWave 10-16-2010 12:00 PM

We havent even yet started deploying 40Gbps and 100Gbps ports over fiber... I really doubt we are anywhere near "close" to maxing out fiber optic cables. There's colored optics, etc. to use more bandwidth over existing cabling.

CyberHustler 10-16-2010 12:04 PM

In other news, the sky is falling.

Barefootsies 10-16-2010 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by TidalWave (Post 17613408)
We havent even yet started deploying 40Gbps and 100Gbps ports over fiber... I really doubt we are anywhere near "close" to maxing out fiber optic cables. There's colored optics, etc. to use more bandwidth over existing cabling.

That makes two of us champ.

There was an ENORMOUS glut of fiber laid in the 90's by all of those internet and telco companies that are now out of business. More than the U.S. could have possibly used. Even now Google is laying more, and there are government initiatives on the table to mandate increased access and speed.

Sounds like there was a sale on tinfoil this week.
:2 cents:

Brujah 10-16-2010 12:53 PM

"640K ought to be enough for anybody." - Bill Gates (1981)

CYF 10-16-2010 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Ethersync (Post 17613401)

A lot of the dark fiber doesn't run where the backbones are. For example, there's dark fiber from Kenosha, WI to Milwaukee, WI and what fucking good is that going to do?

Spudstr 10-16-2010 01:02 PM

I will sum things up.

Current DWDM will power 160 channels or waves as we call them them today. The standard for these waves is currently 10Gbps. 40Gbps and 100Gbps technologies are just now emerging. It is only a matter of time from when we go from having the ability to run 160 x 10G over a single pair of fiber to 160 x 40G and 160 x 100G over a pair of fiber.

If the technology, which some cases work on bi-di "bidi" or bi-directional fiber. I.e 1 strand instead of two making up a circuit you can go from 160x to 320x waves on 2 strands of fiber.

Whoever wrote that article doesn't understand how things work.

Spudstr 10-16-2010 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by CYF (Post 17613531)
A lot of the dark fiber doesn't run where the backbones are. For example, there's dark fiber from Kenosha, WI to Milwaukee, WI and what fucking good is that going to do?

Lots of good. You can achieve anything with fiber, tv signals, data, voice you name it.

Ethersync 10-16-2010 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by CYF (Post 17613531)
A lot of the dark fiber doesn't run where the backbones are. For example, there's dark fiber from Kenosha, WI to Milwaukee, WI and what fucking good is that going to do?

Well, Google has been buying it hand over fist for years. I'm sure the web hosts here can tell us pretty quick if this article is b.s. or not (some already have posted).

Doctor Dre 10-16-2010 01:07 PM

Like everytime a story like that breaks out, there is an agenda behind it. Mostly about net neutrality.

According to Gerry Butters,[2][3][4] the former head of Lucent's Optical Networking Group at Bell Labs, Moore's law holds true with fibre optics.[5] The amount of data coming out of an optical fibre is doubling every nine months. Thus, excluding the transmission equipment upgrades, the cost of transmitting a bit over an optical network decreases by half every nine months.[dubious – discuss] The availability of dense wavelength-division multiplexing DWDM and coarse wavelength division multiplexing CWDM is rapidly bringing down the cost of networking, and further progress seems assured.

munki 10-16-2010 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 17613031)
If people would stop downloading blu ray copies of fucking Sandra Bullock movies, then maybe we wouldn't have a problem.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:thumbsup

CYF 10-16-2010 01:17 PM

Bell Labs scientists have determined that the theoretical limit of a fiber is 100 TBPS.

1TBS has finally been reached.

And that's per strand, if you bundle a bunch of strands together then where's the issue? Article has no hard numbers just spews a bunch of FUD, IMHO the article is junk.

gideongallery 10-16-2010 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 17613017)

this is just the fud drum being beat to justify tiered internet again.

the fact is all that Bit torrent downloading could be solved by setting up reverse proxy, as local area nodes. Everyone would simply get their copy from the node, while the node would be the only one to communicate across the backbone.

The only reason telco don't implement such a solution is bacuase they want to justify tiered internet.


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