Will76 I know you prob. mean well?
 

You talk like you have many ideas and you know everyone's business better then they do. Lets see you do something. prove us all wrong.

I have many people always coming to me with ideas etc.

But Ideas are like Assholes everyone has one!

your good at talking the talk lets see you walk the walk.

at least I do what I preach if I fail its on me but I never talk until I've tried it myself:2 cents:

this pretty much goes for anyone on GFY who post out their ass

It almost sounds like you're challenging yourself. We always see something in someone else that we don't like about ourselves...give the guy a break. What's really the point? He matters that much to you?

Jesus christ not another Will76 thread..... i am so sick of hearing about that guy.

I don't know everyone's business better than them but I do know things that can help some people make their business better.

So because I want to help people make their membership sites better, I should go start my own membership site, make it a success and then come back with proof to show people my ideas where good? :upsidedow

How about 1 person take me up on my services? They give it a shot. I offered a money back guarantee and told them they could even keep the money, if you like what I have to say pay me, if you don't like my ideas don't pay me. What more could some one ask for. I can't make people take me up on my offer.

And no I am not going to go start my own membership site. I owed them and ran them myself several years ago. There was a reason I stopped running them and switched focusing on traffic and being an affiliate. When membership sites are going out of business left and right why would i go start now and build one. I am not proposing anyone do that. I am simply saying if you own one and want to try to make it better i can help you (money back guarantee). Can I help them make their sales go through the roof and make billions. Nope. but if I can help them increase sales, 10%, 20% or even 30% or helped their retention rates go a month longer, wouldn't that be a big benefit to them?

Honestly you couldn't pay me to start a membership site for myself, too much time and work goes into them. I rather spend the majority of my time generating traffic, not producing content, dealing with customers etc... But a lot of people aren't in the same position as me, their business relies on their membership site continuing to be profitable. They have no choice but to make it work.... i offered to help them try to do that... did i mention only pay me if you like what you hear?

what more do you people fucking want from me, find me a better deal than that from anyone. But yet you think i should walk the walk or what ever your bullshit was posted in this thread.

My latest rep; too tired to do a screenshot:

" It Is Now Offically... 10-31-2010 01:51 AM re-tar-ded(neg)
RogerV has the website... 10-31-2010 12:19 AM (pos)
This is the next... 10-28-2010 08:59 PM FUCK YOU CUNT(neg)
Sally Rand 10-28-2010 05:22 PM generally a moron(neg)
This is the next... 10-28-2010 03:06 AM whore(neg)"

Lots of valuable and intelligent repsonses there, eh, what?

And you got those guys on the Circle Jerk Rep thread jacking each other off in a daisy chain of Rep.

The current system sucks balls and needs fixing.

you only assume those things work. put them into effect and prove us wrong
you have no clue because you have no personal experience with what you post.

I have started about 15+ programs some have failed and some have done great. I post by experience.

you dont offer anything of value that anyone one of us hasnt tried:2 cents:

I've been here almost 15 years and I'm always trying to do my own thing that is original. before my websites were cookie cutter as you call them there wasnt any others so who copied who? thry became cookie cutter when you all copied us.
I also had therealworld.com which wasnt a cookie cutter before you even knew anything about adult.
what have you done that was original http://www.rogervadocz.com/ check out the realword video in 96 before cams sites were popular

either way I changed my model and dont rely on adult webmasters to make a profit.

Its getting old if you think you know it all just do it yourself:2 cents:

I'll take you up on your offer how much are we talking. and how much will it cost to do?

since you didnt succeed with your own members section why would I think you can make mine better. Mine are still going 8 years later

funny cause I have a business that makes people money now and all you can do is slam it. you have no clue how well I am doing.

I can give the same offer if people dont make money with my PB I will refund all there money. thats how sure I am of my business

LOL, i am not some noob that just watched a get rich scheme video that sold me on hype and now I have the answers to everything porn related.


I never claimed to do anything original. I simply take a couple common things and put them together or do every day things a little bit different. You don't need to be the first to do something to make a lot of money, you just need to do it right. Being the "first to do things" is typically for people with egos. No one cares who did what first, they care who did it right and who made money from doing it.

This is like the twilight zone I have the guy who sells hype and mlm shit telling me I need to prove what I am saying true. Can you prove that anyone has made money promoting your shit?

Roger you don't know shit about me. Like I have said, I have owned and ran my own membership sites. I have tried a lot of my ideas out in the past and I am trying some of them out now. If I didn't think they would work do you really think I would be offering a money back guarantee to people??? Do you offer a money back guarantee to your members if they don't make fast easy money do you give them all of their money back???

So now you saying i didn't succeed with my own membership sites... I was phasing them out when ibill closing finished them off. I got tired of building up 100s of members rebilling just to have damn payment processor go out of business and keep it all. but that was just part of it, I wanted to utlize 100% of my time generating traffic, not spending 50% on running it and 50% on promoting. I made a choice and I succeed well by focusing on traffic. I was simply making more doing one thing than the other, but your retarded ass equates that to i failed. lol.

I can't help you. See you are wrong about me I don't think I know it all. There is no way in hell I could help you make your MLM business better. I think the entire concept if flawed, MLM and porn mix like oil and water. My advice to you would be to scrap it and do something else... and that was free btw.

No I'm just tired of people talking shit about my business when they have no clue about it or first hand experience. its all just BS presumptions!

you run a porn MLM business, get use to it. You sell hype and get rich quick bullshit... it is what it is accept it and move on. Anyone that goes to your site can see that in 30 seconds what it is all about. Its way over the top selling people on how easy it is to make their dreams come true and porn makes more money than microsoft and ebay and the nba and nfl combined. and you do all the work for them blah blah... it's all bullshit.

just like you said yourself you failed with your own members section. thats all I need to hear if you knew what you were doing you would still be doing it. those who cant teach lol


you would rather someone else pave the way and spend the money to be first to market so you can copy them or make it better lol.

just stay off my threads cause you dont know shit about my business or me.

lol you are insane scrap PB. its doing great like I said you have no clue it converts under 1/100 on my SE traffic and retains about 6 months on ave.
just goes to show you have no clue what you are talking about.

PB has been live almost a year now:thumbsup growing stonger everyday.

What I offer is a business if someone has the work ethic to make money they can easy with PB like I said just ask anyone already in the system. no one has complained so I havnt had to give a refund yet. also like I posted above chase bank approved our merchant for PB. thats how well its doing.

what do you sell? nothing

kool whatever you say either way I dont care I'm just having fun talking shit cause I feel sorry for you.

Focus on your business and not others offering them a pie in the sly solution becasue we have heard it all and seen it all you arnt special.

I will focus on My Porn MLM:thumbsup

why dont you ask someone in the PB susystem if its bullshit or join and find out. till then like I said you only have presumtions no facts.

If you dont make money with PB the first week I will refund your money no prob.

Here is RogerV credibility on display (click on thread):

those who think Epassporte will go under are kookoo !!!

http://images.cheezburger.com/comple...4502575260.jpg

ADG

I don't post out of my ass but I'm willing to give it a shot - thanks for ther challenge!

Here we go. I will now stick a pen up my ass, bend over, and use that pen to reply to Roger V.

Give me a second... Here we go. A pen up my ass, typing.

hjkkklkkkkkkkopomol;lè;éè

p^;;éloololkiokkojuu7ujkolol l.è;éèp;;l.é

That is the result of me sticking a pen up my ass reverse humpng my keyboard.

Thank you. It felt pretty good actually.

I will only reply to people who are willing to reply with a pen shoved up their assholes.

Shit. I have to reboot because my ass-typing fucked something up. BRB. KFC!

you are completely and utterly clueless.

name one person who has made money from your porn MLM shit.

show me what I would be promoting before making me signup, produce the list of 22 sites that you claim are not cookie cuter and white labels.

The only thing you have succeed here is wasting my time as usual. good job, congrats you win.

ok. I'm back. As (or should I say ASS ROFL) you were.

YES I can prove people are making money just hop in the chat system and talk to anyone you want.

Yes if you join and cant make money I will refund your money.
but you have to try not just join and think I'm going to send you checks its like any other business.

I can prove my business can you? who has taken you up on your offer?

I said I would do it for one on my members sections I have 22 right now.
lets see what you can do. if it doesnt help I will post it on GFY if you dont make money in PB you can post it on GFY:2 cents:

I shoved a pen up my ass and replied to Roger V in your defense. Unfortunately, my ass-typing was incoherent.

In the words of RogerV...

those who think ePassporte will go under are kookoo !!!

:1orglaugh

ADG

Are you an idiot or what I said talk to one of my associates who are paying and making money in pleasurebuilder. very simple


even if I named someone you would'nt know them but you can talkj to them live right now http://www.pleasurebuilder.com/chat/

lol thats pretty funny. your life must suck if you have this much time on your hands. I feel like I'm wasting my time just typing to respond

Every post you make is 100% win.

This kind of hate is 100% uncalled for and 100% out of line. I talk shit to people about their attitudes, you guys are talking shit about someones legitimate business. This holier than thou attitude from some of you, when we all know what you sell / sold and how you do it is un fucking believable. I just woke up and need some coffee so I will disecting some specific comments (in multiple threads) when my brain is firing all the way. Looks like it could take awhile but seriously, calm the fuck down.

Will76's ideas are so cash! Just look at his last 2 projects:

http://www.referralmatrix.com
http://www.viraldiscussion.com

you guys and your dramas.

welcome to the internet. a couple projects that I spent a few months working on 3-4 years ago. I didn't like the initial results so I stopped working on them. Congrats, you just proved I am a nobody by digging up a couple old small projects that didn't work out. I have other even bigger projects that I tried that i spent tens of thousands of dollars on that didn't work out, would you like me to share those with you too so your cock can get a little hard at my failures. I am not the one saying I know it all or always get it right, it is my haters saying that.

Who are you again? thats right an anonymous pussy hiding behind a fake nick they had to buy for $200.

Those who can, do; those who can't, teach.

Roger -
I went to your chat system.. People in the chat that said they were using the product seemed like outsource chat workers ..
*I'm only guessing but seemed like they would be out of CR.*

NO I can't prove that they are, I'm just saying that is the way they talked etc.. just lead me to feel that way..

I did ask for and get a url to someone site that they are using to promote

http://www.palace-playground.com/

At the end of the day my question to you is simple... Is this the type of site / whitelables users have to push/market?

so glad i don't participate in this shit any more.

Isnt Pleasure Builder the same logo as Cash University?.. just asking.


Is there a post showing how Pleasure Builder works?... i'm curious on how it works.

Will do you wish you had have rebuilt your members sites ?
Plelnty of us lost a ton of members due to processing over the years. I know I am happy to have rebills atm

I admire the shit out of RogerV.
Dude does not give up.
Been in the game for ever and keeps hustlin.

Good shit

HyBred .............?

they are real people and most will even call you. none on them are outsource. they are all real associates in the PB system making money. I send all my traffic to the chat room.. When you join the team leaders will train you right away.

I agree I enjoy alot of his posts aswell but he needs to focus that on his own biz. or he will end up like alienq:2 cents:

thanks at least someone gets it:winkwink:

ya but you talk shit about my biz like you know what you are talking about. saying porn and mlm don t work. well guess what its working for me and many people in PB:2 cents:
Some of us actually keep tweaking our product and biz till its successful.

even alienq realized he could profit from his deranged personality by posting his rants off the board.

AlienQ is a lot smarter than people give him credit for. 99% of the shit he posts is just therapy to him or outright trolling.

You must have missed the thread where he was so broke, he offered sucking cocks for $$$

Yeah, he's really smart.

Believe whatever you want, seems he's smart enough to fool you.

Paul, I can vouch these are real guys and not outsourcers. There are some high level MLM guys that are taking Rogers system and running with it on their own. They have organized their own systems for building the downlines and so on.

I'm not big on MLM's however there are MANY who are and know how to make money with MLM regardless of the product. As long as Roger continues to tweak his system as it grows, It's going to be around a long time.

You should join PB and make some money with all your great ideas:thumbsup

I would rather listen to someone talk about something he or she has tried.

Thanks Sharky..
And Roger I saw you post kind of the same thing...

I guess it's just the way the guy that was talking to me must have come off.. Like I said they seemed to be chatters I was not 100% sure nor did I really try and find out.

As for the quality of the sites Roger hit me up on ICQ There maybe a way to drastically improve the look and feel of the sites using Ajax to build/edit/manage them.

I'm always down for constructive criticism and ideas for improvement.

what sites are you talking about the turnkey sites or the splash page site that have all there sites under one url.

everyone can change the look of their sites depending on their skills or use our one click template system to change the look.

I have people that completly redesigned their website

I dont use ICQ anymore just email and phone

I agree 100%:thumbsup

Does he really

Will is going to be busy when he's done celebrating the Saints win.