I Upgraded my website. Now it makes no money. Any tips?

[DumpManager]

Hey everyone,

I have a bit of a problem and I was hoping some of you could help me out with it. About 5 or so months ago I decided I would upgrade my website to be fully mobile responsive etc and switch from using FHG's to using a video player. Surprisingly.. this was the worst thing I've ever done.

Before upgrading google would tell me that my website was not mobile responsive so I did a total remake. I get lots of mobile traffic and I figured people would appreciate it more if my website actually worked for them when they were on it. I also switched from using FHG's to using a video player with hosted video files. I did this so that everyone could access the videos instead of just PC users (FHG's wouldn't work for mobile / tablet). Since doing this my website has gone from making 7 or 8 membership sales per month to 0 sales per 5 months.

I did make some mistakes and had some issues which caused a traffic problem, but I still do get traffic and for some reason I am seeing no sales at all ever.

The big difference I think is that with the FHG's as soon as someone loaded a page they would be linked to my affiliate code so if they joined or left and came back a few days later and joined directly from the site I was promoting I would still get credit for it. With a video player there is no way to link the viewer to my affiliate code, they would have to click on a banner. The thing is they never click on the banners. If they want to join a website it's like they watch the video and then type in the website url and go directly to it and join and I get no credit whatsoever. I even load the banners in a way where they get past ad-block but nobody seems to click banners anymore.

When using FHG's I would usually see 200 - 300 uniques a day in the stats screen on programs I am affiliated with. Since switching to a video player I usually get between 5 and 10 uniques a day now. I use twitter and check the analytics and if they show 200 or so people have clicked the link and gone to a video on my site, the stats screen for that video's program only shows like 3 or so uniques. Almost nobody is clicking the banners.

Does anyone know a way I could fix this? I was thinking if there was some way of forcing the affiliate link through it might work, like if below the video and banners I have an iframe that loads an FHG pic gallery or just load the entire join page in an Iframe it will automatically link them to my affiliate code. I'm just worried it would slow everything down a lot more.

Anyone have any idea or tips? I never thought that upgrading my website to work for everyone and all devices, and having it be responsive instead of not responsive would result in losing all income. I even gave it a few months just to be sure.. well, now I'm sure.

The site I'm having issues with is HDhighresporn.com

Thanks everyone,

- DumpManager

[TFCash]

hopefully you have a backup of your old site Time to restore it.

[DumpManager]

Originally Posted by hardcorehosting

hopefully you have a backup of your old site Time to restore it.

Thanks for the tip, unfortunately I lost it completely and was forced to use the new version. Losing the old one was brutal as well, 17,000+ missing urls. Google was like, wtf.
hehe

Anyways. I really have no idea what I should do here. I may end up going through and replacing the video player back with FHG's unless I can figure out some way to get the video player page to act like an FHG, most likely with an iframe and maybe pic gallery loading below. Not sure.. sucks.

[TFCash]

When exactly did you switch from FHG to videos, way back only shows that site ever being a tube site like it is right now

[DumpManager]

Originally Posted by hardcorehosting

When exactly did you switch from FHG to videos, way back only shows that site ever being a tube site like it is right now

I switched it back in maybe January. The reason it probably doesn't show any other version is because I had it in a different directory before hdhighresporn.com/new/ was the old one. The new one is in /2/

The old version looked almost exactly the same, the only different really was it was not responsive and where the video player is now used to be the same picture but it would link to the FHG and open that in a new window.

[yuu.design]

back to the old version :S

[DumpManager]

Originally Posted by yuu

back to the old version :S

I wish.. unfortunately, I seem to have set off a chain reactor of problems. The start of it was the old version which for unknown reasons went into meltdown mode one day. The host couldn't even help me out with it, it suddenly just went batshit crazy. It somehow began overloading the entire server and never stopped. The only solve was to delete it straight up and lose everything. I had this version in a sort of gaping beta mode (open beta) at the time luckily so I still had something, but I updated it and have been putting up content in the meantime while testing.

It seems a shame that in order to fix the problem I have to take away functionality and make the website worse in terms of a user experience. Mobile, tablet and game console users will no longer be able to use it and the FHG's are also unfortunately not mobile friendly (flash and non-responsive), but at least this way I'll be able to make money off it once again.. what a bizarre situation.

I really wish there was some way to fix it the way it is now.
Like when someone clicks an FHG they are linked to your affiliate account but if they watch a video player they aren't and then they skip the banners and just type in the url so there is no way to link it. How do tube sites sell memberships when people don't click the banners? Or do they not and they get by on 3rd party ad network revenue?

[mechanicvirus]

I'm not gonna lie DumpManager, it seems making websites harder to navigate actually produces more income. I've heard time and time again that websites need to cater to the user 100% of the time, but if everything is made easy and free, why the hell would they buy? People say, "oh you will lose that mobile traffic" but as DumpManager clearly lays out, they weren't buying in the first place.

[TFCash]

You need to remember that as you start to go back and fix this, that there are a number of items that you changed.

I personally don't think making it responsive had any downside for you, google has made it clear that traffic will drop for sites that don't show up well acrossed a wide range of devices!

Now going from 20 pics to 5 to 15 minute videos of course is going to have a major impact on your click thru rate. Why would they want to go a look at anything else when you give them enough to pump one out ?

Not sure what software your using to run your site, but maybe try having the top 4 links into a tgp page like you used to have. Run this for a week and see what your ctr is on those 4 pages. Mix it up also, the top 4 on your site now all link to nubile films, should have a mix on your entry pages. Within the pages themselves it's ok to use channels or related links to show the stuff from the same sponsor, but where surfers are coming in you want to show them a wide offering in your niche.


Good luck

[mechanicvirus]

Originally Posted by hardcorehosting

Now going from 20 pics to 5 to 15 minute videos of course is going to have a major impact on your click thru rate. Why would they want to go a look at anything else when you give them enough to pump one out ?

By this logic, going with a responsive design makes it easier for viewers to pump one out and not pay for anything. If you make it hard to get, they will buy.

[TFCash]

Originally Posted by mechanicvirus

By this logic, going with a responsive design makes it easier for viewers to pump one out and not pay for anything. If you make it hard to get, they will buy.

I guess I don't see your correlation here. When I talk about a responsive page, I'm talking about one that can be viewed with any type of device, and still be readable and usable to the surfer.

How exactly does that get them off any faster than by not using html5/ccs3 code ??

My responsive tgp's do quite well

Naked Teens from TeenFlood.com

this can be viewed on a phone, pad or pc and show pretty much the same on all 3, the surfer can read the text, and knows what to click to find more about the model.

where as this gallery, which has not be revamped yet since we just took over the program, will get 30% to 40% more traffic after I get it mobile friendly later this month

<<<AMYVIRGIN.COM>>>

I'll come back and let you know how the ctr goes after we get it switched over, but if it's anything like past changes, we will see the ctr go up to match the added traffic from mobile devices.

[DumpManager]

Originally Posted by mechanicvirus

I'm not gonna lie DumpManager, it seems making websites harder to navigate actually produces more income. I've heard time and time again that websites need to cater to the user 100% of the time, but if everything is made easy and free, why the hell would they buy? People say, "oh you will lose that mobile traffic" but as DumpManager clearly lays out, they weren't buying in the first place.

I think you're totally correct on this one. I never thought in my life that improving something could actually result in a total loss of income from it, hehe, so ridiculous.

Mobile traffic will probably not appreciate it if I change, but, I do remember in the past I did even sell some mobile traffic memberships. It showed in my stats screen.

I think I am going to have to devolve the functionality of the website.. sad but I think it's the way it's going to have to be.

[DumpManager]

Originally Posted by hardcorehosting

You need to remember that as you start to go back and fix this, that there are a number of items that you changed.

I personally don't think making it responsive had any downside for you, google has made it clear that traffic will drop for sites that don't show up well acrossed a wide range of devices!

Now going from 20 pics to 5 to 15 minute videos of course is going to have a major impact on your click thru rate. Why would they want to go a look at anything else when you give them enough to pump one out ?

Not sure what software your using to run your site, but maybe try having the top 4 links into a tgp page like you used to have. Run this for a week and see what your ctr is on those 4 pages. Mix it up also, the top 4 on your site now all link to nubile films, should have a mix on your entry pages. Within the pages themselves it's ok to use channels or related links to show the stuff from the same sponsor, but where surfers are coming in you want to show them a wide offering in your niche.


Good luck

Great advice, thanks. I don't think going responsive was actually what ruined it, that is possibly the least of the problems. That just makes it so it is viewable in all browsers / devices.

The big screw up I made was finding a video player that would also play on all devices. I assumed that if people tried to watch a video before and it didn't work they would think that whatever website I was promoting would not work on their device. I thought if I made it so the video was viewable on all devices they would be more likely to buy a membership.. Not the case unfortunately.

FHG >>>>>>>>>> Video Player / Tube style.
FHG's are so good that 2 months after not using them and also not promoting brazzers since just before losing old website (ever since Matty left their FHG's were broken) I sold a few memberships because of the way FHG's link to your affiliate account. FHG's are so so much better than a video player.

I am using Wordpress to do the website with a theme that I did a lot of custom work to. I think the theme is fine (although still not finished totally), the responsiveness is good.. I will probably just switch out the player with an image that links to the appropriate FHG like I used to have. Luckily since it's wordpress it will not be hard to change everything, just time consuming.

One good thing at least is my twitter account has never slowed with gaining followers (almost at 106K). Google still after almost 6 months or whatever is still removing old dead links and doesn't like my site again yet, lol, so quite a lot of my traffic comes from twitter. I'll pin a TGP style link to my profile so I can check the analytics on it vs what is showing on a program.

Thanks so much for the help everyone, really appreciate it. If any of you guys want some help on twitter let me know and I'll throw some RT's / mentions your way. Let me know on here though, it's almost impossible to keep up with notifications on there.

[TFCash]

Originally Posted by DumpManager

Google still after almost 6 months or whatever is still removing old dead links and doesn't like my site again yet, lol, so quite a lot of my traffic comes from twitter. I'll pin a TGP style link to my profile so I can check the analytics on it vs what is showing on a program.

If you haven't already done this, you might want to make sure you've got a sitemap generator install under wordpress with a plugin like Yoast SEO or something else that let's you make sitemaps on the fly.

Then plug that sitemap into your webmaster tools account, that will help speed up the process of cleaning stuff up that's been deleted or so I've been told

[redwhiteandblue]

If you want some pointers email me webmaster at ukadultsystems dot com. I changed the design of my oldest site at the start of this year to a responsive one and doubled my conversion rate, so it must be possible for you to do it too.

[xxx6live]

I would show the old player at least to the desktop users. That way you should get back some of the unique hits you had without interaction. Should not be too difficult for a programmer.

[plsureking]

one of the things we learned when we were working out a tube strategy is that once a surfer watches a video, the sale is lost. there's always exceptions, but its far easier to convert someone using pictures and words. stimulate the brain and tease the cock.

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[porndumpme]

Sounds to me like you loaded the FHG in an iframe?

So every user who came into the site was cookied?

I would suggest you do as you mentioned and even load the full join form in the page, that will cookie everyone again.

And SELL the sponsor, tell everyone how good it is, have a call to action, a special deal or something to get users to click on it.

[Kafka]

Is it a flashplayer? If so, get rid of it and use the html5 video tag. With js and css you can customize it in any way.