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Old 01-29-2018, 01:44 PM   #1
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Elon Musk proposes city-to-city travel by rocket, right here on Earth

Montreal to Paris at 18,000 miles per hour, with a view of space and a few minutes of weightlessness to boot. Count me in!

https://www.theverge.com/2017/9/29/1...t-earth-travel

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SpaceX CEO Elon Musk unveiled revised plans to travel to the Moon and Mars at a space industry conference today, but he ended his talk with a pretty incredible promise: using that same interplanetary rocket system for long-distance travel on Earth. Musk showed a demonstration of the idea onstage, claiming that it will allow passengers to take ?most long-distance trips? in just 30 minutes, and go ?anywhere on Earth in under an hour? for around the same price as an economy airline ticket.

Musk proposed using SpaceX?s forthcoming mega-rocket (codenamed Big Fucking Rocket or BFR for short) to lift a massive spaceship into orbit around the Earth. The ship would then settle down on floating landing pads near major cities. Both the new rocket and spaceship are currently theoretical, though Musk did say that he hopes to begin construction on the rocket in the next six to nine months.

In SpaceX?s video that illustrates the idea, passengers take a large boat from a dock in New York City to a floating launchpad out in the water. There, they board the same rocket that Musk wants to use to send humans to Mars by 2024. But instead of heading off to another planet once they leave the Earth?s atmosphere, the ship separates and breaks off toward another city ? Shanghai.

Just 39 minutes and some 7,000 miles later, the ship reenters the atmosphere and touches down on another floating pad, much like the way SpaceX lands its Falcon 9 rockets at sea. Other routes proposed in the video include Hong Kong to Singapore in 22 minutes, London to Dubai or New York in 29 minutes, and Los Angeles to Toronto in 24 minutes.

HONG KONG TO SINGAPORE IN 22 MINUTES, LONDON TO DUBAI OR NEW YORK IN 29 MINUTES, AND MORE

This proposed method of Earth-city-to-Earth-city travel would be, by far, the fastest ever created by humanity. The ship would reach a speed of about 18,000 miles per hour at its peak, Musk said, which is more than an order of magnitude faster than the Concorde.

Musk presented the idea at the very end of his speech, so he was light on details when it comes to the other logistics surrounding this proposal. (In fact, most of Musk?s speech was about how he wants to use this new rocket system to make all current and forthcoming Falcon rockets obsolete.) Using the numbers he showed earlier in the talk when describing the ship?s capacity with regards to the Moon and Mars, we can estimate it could carry somewhere between 80 and 200 people per trip. But we don?t know other basics like how much of the air travel market Musk sees this occupying, how it would be regulated, or even when SpaceX might attempt such a feat.

We also don?t know what the passenger experience would be like, and that?s an important factor in an idea like this. The thought of blasting off on a rocket to space is exciting, as is the potential for adding moments of weightlessness to your trip to London or wherever. But will people actually be willing to put their bodies through these kinds of extreme stresses for the sake of shaving a few hours off their trip?

And then there?s the landing. Despite occasional hiccups, airplanes land with overwhelming success. To its credit, SpaceX has gotten really good at landing its Falcon 9 rockets both on land and at sea, and Musk even began his speech by touting how 16 of them have landed successfully in a row. But the difference between landing a 14-story rocket booster with no passengers and a large ship full of them is one Musk will hopefully expound upon, either during another presentation or the next time he opens Twitter.
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Old 01-29-2018, 02:03 PM   #2
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Old 01-29-2018, 02:33 PM   #3
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Montreal to Paris at 18,000 miles per hour, with a view of space and a few minutes of weightlessness to boot. Count me in!

https://www.theverge.com/2017/9/29/1...t-earth-travel
Overload on the passenger will be big.


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Old 01-29-2018, 02:45 PM   #4
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I'd like to volunteer our Canadian residents mineistaken and eonblue for the first trip.
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sheeeeet count me in after a few years of testing...I aint gonna be the first one to travel with that shit thats for sure but visiting space is an absolute must...
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Who will be the first to die in a fiery commercial rocket crash?
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That sounds impractical ...
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So for ecological reasons we are supposed to drive electric cars but then burn tons of rocket fuel so that a handful people can travel quickly? Me thinks he smokes too much of the wrong stuff.
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So for ecological reasons we are supposed to drive electric cars but then burn tons of rocket fuel so that a handful people can travel quickly? Me thinks he smokes too much of the wrong stuff.
Exactly this
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So for ecological reasons we are supposed to drive electric cars but then burn tons of rocket fuel so that a handful people can travel quickly? Me thinks he smokes too much of the wrong stuff.
I like Elon but I agree.
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So for ecological reasons we are supposed to drive electric cars but then burn tons of rocket fuel so that a handful people can travel quickly? Me thinks he smokes too much of the wrong stuff.
I agree with you totally.

At the same time I think it's hard to ignore the idea, if you were Elon, firing rockets up to space, around the world and back down to earth in minutes then sitting on a 12 hour + airplane flight somewhere, it would be hard to ignore the idea...
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I'd like to volunteer our Canadian residents mineistaken and eonblue for the first trip.
Really? They're Canadian? I didn't know that... !


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So for ecological reasons we are supposed to drive electric cars but then burn tons of rocket fuel so that a handful people can travel quickly? Me thinks he smokes too much of the wrong stuff.
Been wondering this too. There might be some kind of math that says 50 people in a rocket uses X amount of fuel which is less than an airplane, etc etc, but I haven't read that yet.

The idea is still cool though. Rockets go really fast, and if they can land themselves safely and be re used, then transporting people from here to there with them isn't that far-fetched.
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I think the cost per person will make this fail. That and the obvious strain on the body.
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So for ecological reasons we are supposed to drive electric cars but then burn tons of rocket fuel so that a handful people can travel quickly? Me thinks he smokes too much of the wrong stuff.
Im sure he has an electric rocket up his sleeve?
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His hyperloop has zero omissions, I'd rather take that than a rocket.



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His hyperloop has zero omissions, I'd rather take that than a rocket.
was going to mention that, we're supposed to get one of the first here

https://techcrunch.com/2017/01/18/hy...zech-republic/

(in case it really works and will really be built)
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was going to mention that, we're supposed to get one of the first here

https://techcrunch.com/2017/01/18/hy...zech-republic/

(in case it really works and will really be built)
Canada might get a Hyperloop too, connecting Montreal to Toronto.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/repo...ticle36433407/
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Really? They're Canadian? I didn't know that... !
You seriously didn't know I am Canadian?

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He needs to focus on tesla. His cars are fucking delayed
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But when they're ready they'll be delivered by rocket.
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