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Amputate Your Head 01-11-2011 12:35 PM

everyone loves freedom of speech, until someone else exercises their right.


you can't have it both ways. :2 cents:

brassmonkey 01-11-2011 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 17836358)
Figures.

"Their" god hates everybody.

Those people are the biggest losers ever.

their church must be huge!! and parking lot made with gold bricks! GOD is on their side. :)

Tom_PM 01-11-2011 12:42 PM

I always laugh when people say "Jews killed Jesus" like it was a bad thing. It's like theyr'e unaware that Jesus was Jew for one thing, and for the other thing.. they dont seem to realise that without being dead, a person can't rise from the dead and start a whole new religion and new testament.

I'd like to know what they think Jesus was going to do if he wasn't killed? Are they saying it was NOT part of Gods plan for his son to live among us and then suffer for our sins and die for them, and rise again and all that magic? What was his career going to be?

Just throwing it out there for no reason.

flashfire 01-11-2011 12:52 PM

they are gonna be busy if they want to protest all the Catholic funerals in the world...oh wait its just the big ones in the news because they are just attention whores of the worst kind

dyna mo 01-11-2011 12:54 PM

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TheDA 01-11-2011 12:55 PM

So sad!!!

DEA - banned for life 01-11-2011 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 17836397)
I always laugh when people say "Jews killed Jesus" like it was a bad thing. It's like theyr'e unaware that Jesus was Jew for one thing, and for the other thing.. they dont seem to realise that without being dead, a person can't rise from the dead and start a whole new religion and new testament.

I'd like to know what they think Jesus was going to do if he wasn't killed? Are they saying it was NOT part of Gods plan for his son to live among us and then suffer for our sins and die for them, and rise again and all that magic? What was his career going to be?

Just throwing it out there for no reason.

i think in there eyes ..gods plan was for jesus to do that the first time around..when he was actually alive..thanks to the "jews" they had to write a whole new book and the world has to wait another few thousand years for him to come back and do it all over again..:Oh crap

Sarah_Jayne 01-11-2011 01:02 PM

I have said it many times but I think that if there is a God and all that, it may be very possible that Fred Phelps is the devil on Earth. He is pure and utter evil.

marketsmart 01-11-2011 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 17836397)
I always laugh when people say "Jews killed Jesus"

i always laugh when people take that comment seriously..

the bible was/is just one giant fairytale and there is no proof to state otherwise...

i believe that there was a dude named jesus that cruised around and was a pretty good guy. probably smoked a lot of weed, but was he the son of god.. no he was not...

the bible is just a book that was created out of many stories passed down from generation to generation with the intention of keeping some type of civil order through fear..

human beings are inherently evil creatures that are only interested in self preservation.. its actually built into our genetic code..

without some type of fear based moral guide, we would run around slaughtering each other and it would be survival of the fittest at its finest..

i suspect that a bunch of weaker people were responsible for a lot of the content of the bible..

like david vs goliath was probably created by some little guy that was tired of getting his ass kicked and made a story up so that people might take heed of a little guy..

etc etc...

if a god truly existed, there would not be as much suffering in the world as there is..

and yes, i know the christians can explain that away, but the fact is that until you have seen a child that has been beaten to within an inch of his life or a child slowly dying from the ravages of cancer, the fact that a god does exists probably seems like a pretty neat idea...







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TheDA 01-11-2011 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quentin (Post 17836258)

As you noted in another of your posts, one of the biggest problems with Phelps is that people keep giving him the attention he wants, which just encourages him to go on doing his thing.

You're quite right -- the best thing to do with this bozo is to pretend he does not exist. I really, really wish the national media would do so. Or, as I put it in a blog post about Phelps and his imbecilic followers a few years back:

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Originally Posted by ottopottomouse (Post 17836375)
Pretend he doesn't exist, by making a blog post about him :upsidedow

:thumbsup

mynameisjim 01-11-2011 01:26 PM

We really need to go back to reading one newspaper in the morning and that's it. All this constant news has us riding a fucking crazy train to nowhere. Everyone is so poorly informed and there is so much noise, that it's like living in some acid trip. Everyday it's like a joke.

fatfoo 01-11-2011 01:39 PM

There are people nowadays (even on North American radio/television) that say "kill fags" seriously or as a joke. I think fags should not be killed.

Quentin 01-11-2011 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ottopottomouse (Post 17836375)
Pretend he doesn't exist, by making a blog post about him :upsidedow

How clever of you.

You can have two gold stars for pointing out the same irony twice! :thumbsup

Tom_PM 01-11-2011 02:18 PM

Yeah I find it hard to credit a story written about someone a couple hundred years after they died as well. It's like taking some pirate movie as gospel truth. "literally".

People need to accept responsibility AND take credit when it's due. Next time a sports figure thanks Jesus for making the game winning catch I might vomit frogs just to make a point.

The Demon 01-11-2011 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 17836477)
i always laugh when people take that comment seriously..

the bible was/is just one giant fairytale and there is no proof to state otherwise...

i believe that there was a dude named jesus that cruised around and was a pretty good guy. probably smoked a lot of weed, but was he the son of god.. no he was not...

the bible is just a book that was created out of many stories passed down from generation to generation with the intention of keeping some type of civil order through fear..

human beings are inherently evil creatures that are only interested in self preservation.. its actually built into our genetic code..

without some type of fear based moral guide, we would run around slaughtering each other and it would be survival of the fittest at its finest..

i suspect that a bunch of weaker people were responsible for a lot of the content of the bible..

like david vs goliath was probably created by some little guy that was tired of getting his ass kicked and made a story up so that people might take heed of a little guy..

etc etc...

if a god truly existed, there would not be as much suffering in the world as there is..

and yes, i know the christians can explain that away, but the fact is that until you have seen a child that has been beaten to within an inch of his life or a child slowly dying from the ravages of cancer, the fact that a god does exists probably seems like a pretty neat idea...







.

Let me use your simple minded logic for a minute. The bible is real and there is no proof otherwise!!!

marketsmart 01-11-2011 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17836683)
Let me use your simple minded logic for a minute. The bible is real and there is no proof otherwise!!!

there is evolution.... :2 cents:

and when i want your opinion, i'll choke it out of you..


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ottopottomouse 01-11-2011 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quentin (Post 17836601)
How clever of you.

You can have two gold stars for pointing out the same irony twice! :thumbsup

No gold stars because you can't count.

However it's discriminatory to not reward thickness so have a lolly instead :thumbsup

2MuchMark 01-11-2011 02:58 PM

I can't fucking believe it. Holy shit, this is going to be bad. My heart goes out to the families of that little girl.

Some adult webmasters need to setup a counter protest right in front of the GodHatesFags family home and shoot some GAY MAN-ON-MAN ASS FUCKING right in front of their door.

Unbeliable...

The Demon 01-11-2011 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 17836696)
there is evolution.... :2 cents:

and when i want your opinion, i'll choke it out of you..


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Evolution and religion don't mix buddy. Try to educate yourself before you insult something, since you have no clue what you're talking about. What's the difference between you and a bumbling idiot like Bill Mahr who takes an obscure passage (without any investigating) and then ridicules it?

Slutboat 01-11-2011 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 17836269)
your religion killed little baby jesus and thats why your religion was put into ovens during the big one... :2 cents:


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No it's that Jews think they are the master race just as Hitler thought pure whites were the master race. I'm not at all anti-semitic and I have several Jewish friends that are important people in my life - however I do get sick of their superiority crap.

marketsmart 01-11-2011 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17836753)
Evolution and religion don't mix buddy. Try to educate yourself before you insult something, since you have no clue what you're talking about. What's the difference between you and a bumbling idiot like Bill Mahr who takes an obscure passage (without any investigating) and then ridicules it?

no shit dipshit...

thats why there is no religion as people would like it to be based upon..

there is no god.. period...

and even if there was, jews are filthy creatures and would be going to hell if that existed as well..

so thank your lucky stars i just enlightened you... know you dont have to face eternal damnation..

are we clear jim?




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The Demon 01-11-2011 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 17836771)
no shit dipshit...

thats why there is no religion as people would like it to be based upon..

there is no god.. period...

and even if there was, jews are filthy creatures and would be going to hell if that existed as well..

so thank your lucky stars i just enlightened you... know you dont have to face eternal damnation..

are we clear jim?

Hahaha thanks for proving my point. I love arguing against the absence of logic and common sense. Keep trying though. Maybe if you scream "GOD DOESNT EXIST" loud enough, you'll actually believe it.:1orglaugh

Quentin 01-11-2011 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ottopottomouse (Post 17836703)
No gold stars because you can't count.

However it's discriminatory to not reward thickness so have a lolly instead :thumbsup

Ah, yes.... somehow I read TheDA quoting your post as a re-post by you. That's what I get for reading too quickly.

At any rate, do you at least agree that there's a slight difference between me posting a single entry about Phelps on an XBIZ blog in 2007, and then posting about him again here 4 years later, and the likes of CNN, FOX, CNBC, etc, giving the man coverage... well, just about every time he pops up his idiotic head?

I think there's a rather large difference between the two. If that makes me a hypocrite, or represents another example of being "thick," then so be it.

ottopottomouse 01-12-2011 05:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quentin (Post 17836835)
Ah, yes.... somehow I read TheDA quoting your post as a re-post by you. That's what I get for reading too quickly.

At any rate, do you at least agree that there's a slight difference between me posting a single entry about Phelps on an XBIZ blog in 2007, and then posting about him again here 4 years later, and the likes of CNN, FOX, CNBC, etc, giving the man coverage... well, just about every time he pops up his idiotic head?

I think there's a rather large difference between the two. If that makes me a hypocrite, or represents another example of being "thick," then so be it.

I just thought it was funny that you said everybody should ignore him and then linked to yourself not ignoring him. Wasn't expecting it to turn into an argument :(

TheDoc 01-12-2011 05:11 AM

AZ just passed emergency legislation to block the protesters... I think it was 300 feet away and no protesting an hour before/after funerals.

I'll still be going down on Thursday... They expected 2500ish people to help show up to block them douches, but with the law passing who knows what will go down now.

rogueteens 01-12-2011 05:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 17836004)
If they would just picket the wrong funeral just once... a gang of bikers would have a lot of fun.

I thought bikers did turn up to all their demos (at least the funerals)? I've certainally seen photos where bikers provide a "ring of protection" from those nutters around funerals. You can also see them in the background in some scenes of the Louis Theroux documentary.
I think there was an adult webmaster from another forum who used to go to those demos as an ex-military biker or something?

TheDoc 01-12-2011 05:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17836683)
Let me use your simple minded logic for a minute. The bible is real and there is no proof otherwise!!!

The bible is real in what way? As in it's a book/paper? Okay.... Or as in god created it? I can prove otherwise, every Bible/religious book has a human creator.

Btw... It's not the non-believers job to prove god isn't real. It's your job to prove the claim.

This is like me making the claim I can fly, the non-believer wants me to prove it. The non-believer can't prove I can't fly, if I don't show them. In short, religious people put faith in words without any proof. So put your faith into me that I can fly ... exactly!

It's your job to prove your God/stories/book, etc are real. It's NEVER the other persons job to prove your claims.

TheDoc 01-12-2011 05:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rogueteens (Post 17838052)
I thought bikers did turn up to all their demos (at least the funerals)? I've certainally seen photos where bikers provide a "ring of protection" from those nutters around funerals. You can also see them in the background in some scenes of the Louis Theroux documentary.
I think there was an adult webmaster from another forum who used to go to those demos as an ex-military biker or something?

Yeppers... a few people on here do this.

The American Legion Riders and other local bike clubs will be on call for her funeral, to rev up bikes, to drown out protesters and block views. The parents asked them to be show up.

Sausage 01-12-2011 05:27 AM

Irony...

A thread full of Athiests telling others what to think.

TheDoc 01-12-2011 05:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sausage (Post 17838059)
Irony...

A thread full of Athiests telling others what to think.

Or... a thread full of people tired of having religious nuts fuck up our world. It's all view points.

Nikki_Licks 01-12-2011 05:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 17835983)
the one that was killed in Tucson claiming she is going to hell...

when is someone going to open fire on those idiots...





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I would love nothing better than to see the citizens of this area beat these mother fuckers into the asphalt with baseball bats and chains.....fucking bible toting loonies.

Good thing it is not my daughter or relative that was being buried, because I have a feeling I would be in jail after their attempt to sabotage the funeral....:2 cents:

On another note, I heard this morning on the news that AZ just passed a law yesterday that will keep these assholes 300 feet from any funeral...it should be a mile or more.

xholly 01-12-2011 06:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17836073)
Seriously these morons deserve a taste of their own medicine. Some Jew should go up to the group and tell them that they just copied their shitty religion from the Jews and if God hates everybody they say he does, then God certainly hates them.. Then call them idol worshippers and move on. It won't happen but it would be funny.

I'd find it funnier to see a bunch of bears tie him up and gang rape his ass

CaptainHowdy 01-12-2011 06:39 AM

God hates us equally...

The Demon 01-12-2011 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17838055)
The bible is real in what way? As in it's a book/paper? Okay.... Or as in god created it? I can prove otherwise, every Bible/religious book has a human creator.

Btw... It's not the non-believers job to prove god isn't real. It's your job to prove the claim.

This is like me making the claim I can fly, the non-believer wants me to prove it. The non-believer can't prove I can't fly, if I don't show them. In short, religious people put faith in words without any proof. So put your faith into me that I can fly ... exactly!

It's your job to prove your God/stories/book, etc are real. It's NEVER the other persons job to prove your claims.

Try again Doc. Whoever is making a claim, it's their job to prove it. If you claim it isn't real, you have to prove it. But there's something you and the rest of the brainless are missing. I'm not trying to convince YOU that God exists, while you're trying to convince EVERYONE that he doesn't, so the onus will always be on you. Herein ends the lesson.:1orglaugh

The Demon 01-12-2011 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17838061)
Or... a thread full of people tired of having religious nuts fuck up our world. It's all view points.

Wow Doc, I was betting on who it was going to be to prove my point and I actually betted on slutboat so damn.. But I said this in the beginning of the thread:

Quote:

The problem is, you'll have the liberals and the atheists using this one retarded group as proof that religion is somehow "fanatical", which is just retarded. I'm a pretty religious Jew and I would beat the living monkey crap out of these morons.

Congratulations thedoc, you win the dumbass lifetime achievement award:)

Errors 01-12-2011 07:15 AM

This is ridiculous. The police should be able to beat them....legally. Like waiting at a funeral will accomplish anything.

Quentin 01-12-2011 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ottopottomouse (Post 17838041)
I just thought it was funny that you said everybody should ignore him and then linked to yourself not ignoring him. Wasn't expecting it to turn into an argument :(

Yeah, to be honest, I actually thought about this while driving home last night and came to the inexorable conclusion that I owe you an apology.

All you did was make a completely valid point... and I lost my cool for some reason that still isn't really clear to me. That's not characteristic of the way I conduct myself, either in person or on the boards, and it really bothered me once I started asking myself "Now why did I go and do that?"

The problem likely is that I'm just on edge about this whole tragedy and the media coverage of everything related to it, because this shooting hit close to home, quite literally -- I live just a couple miles from that Safeway, and the family land where I grew up is even closer. I grew up playing with my friends in the sand washes and mesquite bosques that pepper the area. To cap it off, if I hadn't been running late that morning in preparing to fly out to Vegas for Internext, my plan was to have breakfast with my wife at a place called "Beyond Bread" that's in the same shopping center as the Safeway, just about 50 yards across the parking lot.

All the media coverage, all this focus on external influences that might have affected this fucked up kid... to me, it all smacks of this need and/or desire that some people have to capitalize on situations like this politically, and to have someone to blame beyond the deranged shitheads who pull the trigger in spree shootings like this one. As a result, my hometown/state (and the character of its people) is being bandied about in the press like a badminton shuttlecock, and it has gotten under my skin a bit, I think.

At any rate, I do apologize for losing my shit a little bit there, and running with your simple quip like it was more than it was.... and my very odd momentary inability to read a message board properly, as well. ;-)

docputer 01-12-2011 10:06 AM

I am glad Arizona passed that ban, but the Phelp's will likely show up and protest, and take the tickets for violating the law, then sue the state for violation of their rights. It seems to be their standard MO.

The Patriot Guard generally rides to the soldiers funerals where the Phelps clan are, but sometimes they don't have the manpower to do so. For a recent funeral in my town, the Phelps protested, and old men with lawnmowers showed up to drown them out.

V_RocKs 01-12-2011 10:12 AM

God should send some people to shut these fags up.

V_RocKs 01-12-2011 10:18 AM

Just went and read some of their literature.

While I do believe they are correct about the Catholic religion and worshiping false idols, casting spells (ever heard the idiots chanting?), making up shit as they go along, etc, etc... If it were my daughter being buried I'd have not a whole lot left to live for so I'd probably take one of my 25 round clips and wipe out every last picketer.


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