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Altwebdesign 03-16-2011 05:20 PM

markhams back ohhh yeah!!

Django 03-16-2011 05:28 PM

When the game become hard .|.

Altwebdesign 03-16-2011 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by escort-service (Post 17984701)
When the game become hard .|.

is that a cock and balls?

8==========D

Django 03-16-2011 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Altwebdesign (Post 17984736)
is that a cock and balls?

8==========D

.\.


:1orglaugh

Altwebdesign 03-16-2011 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by escort-service (Post 17984746)
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:1orglaugh

ohhhh now your giving me the finger, i see it... kind of :P

charlie g 03-16-2011 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by mafia_man (Post 17984277)
Says the pimp.

Fuck you! you condescending shit head. I dont steal shit from anyone and the services I provide are wanted by both parties, mutually consenting adults. So fuck you and get a life and quit trolling me loser. I have no problems sleeping at night.

Shameless 03-16-2011 10:30 PM

This is getting interesting, I want in. :2 cents::Graucho

ReggieDurango 03-16-2011 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 17979890)
This is Great, will discuss it with my guys today!

Fabian, what did your guys say?
Paul, Do you have the $ yet?
Paul, are you shooting this in Prague? If not, where???

ReggieDurango 03-16-2011 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by jfk (Post 17984385)
600 old school shooters:thumbsup

jfk - you are amazing at this? Do you sleep? Or are you like me?

Nathan 03-17-2011 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ReggieDurango (Post 17985204)
Fabian, what did your guys say?
Paul, Do you have the $ yet?
Paul, are you shooting this in Prague? If not, where???

Paul is still reviewing the contract. Where he shoots I do not know.

The contest is most likely on, we are planning it right now. This will be seperate from the contest though since it will be with Brazzers and not Mofos.

I will keep you guys posted on both.

ReggieDurango 03-17-2011 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 17985258)
Paul is still reviewing the contract. Where he shoots I do not know.

The contest is most likely on, we are planning it right now. This will be seperate from the contest though since it will be with Brazzers and not Mofos.

I will keep you guys posted on both.

Wow Fabian, right now I hate all Fabian-haters

ReggieDurango 03-17-2011 01:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 17985258)
This will be seperate from the contest though since it will be with Brazzers and not Mofos.

I will keep you guys posted on both.

So Paul's scene will be Mofos and NOT part of the contest, and all other scenes as part of the contest will be for Brazzers??

Or do I have it backwards?

Nathan 03-17-2011 04:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReggieDurango (Post 17985307)
So Paul's scene will be Mofos and NOT part of the contest, and all other scenes as part of the contest will be for Brazzers??

Or do I have it backwards?

Yes, I will have Paul's scene for Mofos shot by one of our contract shooters too though, to be able to compare.

DamianJ 03-17-2011 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ReggieDurango (Post 17985307)
So Paul's scene

Paul isn't ever actually going to *do* this, you realise?

You don't think even he would have the nerve to take this blood money.

Altwebdesign 03-17-2011 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 17985420)
Paul isn't ever actually going to *do* this, you realise?

You don't think even he would have the nerve to take this blood money.

I hope he does, would be bad for the guy to back out now, he would NEVER live it down!

Paul Markham 03-17-2011 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx (Post 17979405)
This thread is getting really good.

Send me one too.

Shit, I want to compete too. Send me a script, I will bare all of the costs of the same shoot you are paying Paul to do. And i will even not seeking out type of reimbursement.In essence you get a free exclusive scene. Dont really give a shit about the money, just really want to show what i can do. I know what my skill level is and im willing to put my money where my mouth is. Would love to kill 3 birds with one stone. Compete with Paul, Compete with a Brazzers shooter of Nathan's choosing(Will be Bret Brando, im guessing) and tryout for Brazzers all in one shot.

I will even give you a complete uncompressed edit version with my raws.:thumbsup

Put me in coach.:thumbsup

It really doesn't matter if you shoot one better than me, or the Brazzers shooter does in competing with me. That's entirely irrelevant.

3 scenes isn't going to change the fact that Brazzers along with many other site are full of low to medium quality porn that has little to keep the members retained any longer than the minimum.

Will my 1 scene be better than the one the guy who shot the golf ball one be, or the sofa scene afterwards or the lesbian scene? I wouldn't still be here selling content if that was the best I could do.

Does Bret Brand knock out a great scene every time he shoots, or will just be told to do a great one this time? Or will your one scene reflect on all your average work?

I see many sites full of the same mistakes. Images over and over again shot in portrait framing, even though today I think the vast majority of screens are wider the deeper. Wide screen videos with the girl or models standing up, so the screen is a nice scene of the location. Bad angles, too much genitalia, too much zooming and fake models.

Obviously shot by people without the skill or time to get it right. And in the case of the Mofos scene edited by someone who doesn't have enough knowledge to turn down the audio when heels hit the floor.

All these mistakes are elementary and I think if you gave these shooters more money it wouldn't make any difference.

And even if they are better shooters on a better budget, it still comes down to another girl on another bed type scene that isn't that different from every other scene on every other site.

What does this mean to affiliates and sponsors profits? Members have less reasons to stay longer and leave sooner. That's those that sign up. Because today it doesn't really matter if Manwin only have 5 minute clips on Tube sites. Every other scene is similar to the same as the last one. And if a Brazzers scene isn't available for free a similar one is.

Dave I've asked a few times, why don't you give me access to one of the sites you shoot for. Might be able to give you some pointers.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ottopottomouse (Post 17980122)
Weeeeeeeeeeee getting interesting now :)

How to judge a competition though?

Well any contest judge on GFY votes, will have me finishing last.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Altwebdesign (Post 17985633)
I hope he does, would be bad for the guy to back out now, he would NEVER live it down!

I will do it just to piss off Damian.

In the final mix it doesn't matter what GFY thinks. It's what members think. Will a site full of great porn outsell and out retain a site full of medium quality porn?

Because ultimately the judge is $$$$$$$$$$

Altwebdesign 03-17-2011 08:08 AM

cmmmooon markham!!

Any idea when shooting will start and where ?

BVF 03-17-2011 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 17985641)
It really doesn't matter if you shoot one better than me, or the Brazzers shooter does in competing with me. That's entirely irrelevant.

3 scenes isn't going to change the fact that Brazzers along with many other site are full of low to medium quality porn that has little to keep the members retained any longer than the minimum.

Will my 1 scene be better than the one the guy who shot the golf ball one be, or the sofa scene afterwards or the lesbian scene? I wouldn't still be here selling content if that was the best I could do.

Does Bret Brand knock out a great scene every time he shoots, or will just be told to do a great one this time? Or will your one scene reflect on all your average work?

I see many sites full of the same mistakes. Images over and over again shot in portrait framing, even though today I think the vast majority of screens are wider the deeper. Wide screen videos with the girl or models standing up, so the screen is a nice scene of the location. Bad angles, too much genitalia, too much zooming and fake models.

Obviously shot by people without the skill or time to get it right. And in the case of the Mofos scene edited by someone who doesn't have enough knowledge to turn down the audio when heels hit the floor.

All these mistakes are elementary and I think if you gave these shooters more money it wouldn't make any difference.

And even if they are better shooters on a better budget, it still comes down to another girl on another bed type scene that isn't that different from every other scene on every other site.

What does this mean to affiliates and sponsors profits? Members have less reasons to stay longer and leave sooner. That's those that sign up. Because today it doesn't really matter if Manwin only have 5 minute clips on Tube sites. Every other scene is similar to the same as the last one. And if a Brazzers scene isn't available for free a similar one is.

Dave I've asked a few times, why don't you give me access to one of the sites you shoot for. Might be able to give you some pointers.



Well any contest judge on GFY votes, will have me finishing last.



I will do it just to piss off Damian.

In the final mix it doesn't matter what GFY thinks. It's what members think. Will a site full of great porn outsell and out retain a site full of medium quality porn?

Because ultimately the judge is $$$$$$$$$$

STFU with the typing and shoot the scene already...Damn!

ReggieDurango 03-17-2011 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 17985416)
Yes, I will have Paul's scene for Mofos shot by one of our contract shooters too though, to be able to compare.

Very Cool!

How big can the Brazzers contest be? like, what if 100 different parties want to enter??? The more the merrier hopefully? I want to document as much of this process as possible!

Paul, when should I plan on flying to Europe and where should I fly???

Paul Markham 03-17-2011 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Altwebdesign (Post 17985865)
cmmmooon markham!!

Any idea when shooting will start and where ?

Maybe next week. Fabian is arguing about the scene and the contract.

Once we get the wire I will look for the right girl, a lot of problems today are girls like in Brazzers and Mofos scenes clearly faking everything and putting very little into the scene. Eva and I did notice as we were shooting in 2007 and 2008 how many girls were just "floating" through a scene.

Ultimately no matter how good the equipment is, if the guy holding it doesn't know how to make a girl perform properly as he needs to he's going to produce poor porn.

Be patient.

JustDaveXxx 03-17-2011 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 17985258)
The contest is most likely on, we are planning it right now. This will be seperate from the contest though since it will be with Brazzers and not Mofos.

I will keep you guys posted on both.

I would like to think that I am applicant #1.:thumbsup




"1st Brazzers Shooters Cup Invitational" :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Cherry7 03-17-2011 11:15 AM

I have found a great camera for this shoot....

http://www.hdcamerarentals.com/media...splay/1265.jpg

This camera can be hired and shoots FULL HD up to 800 frames per second.

Put the girl naked on a trampolene, get her to jump up and down, film away.

Two minutes filming you have a 36 minute scene.

Thats something I'd pay to look at.!


(you can change the lenses on this camera too ! )

Shameless 03-17-2011 11:33 AM

You know what this tread needs? A fucking Waaaaaaahhhmmm-bulance. Sounds like a lot of whiners and people blurting out shit that makes no sense. The camera with interchangeable lenses, I'm assuming it's 1 CMOS sensor, which will have rolling shutter when you pan with sex.

Thoughts:

A. You shoot your content on industry standard or better equipment. Last thing ZZ wants to deal with is some huge file for editing or a format they are not familiar with. You will become a pain in their butt and ultimately not rehired.

B. Why would you want to chance their being a glitch in something rented?

C. Ultimately, Brazzers is kinda gonzo, with wall to wall intros & vignettes with hard sex. Mofos is a different story but kinda the same formula.

D. Over all it seems that the lines here are getting very blurred. Are we talking about Brazzers of Mofos? The 2 don't really seem the same niches or shooting styles at all besides being under the Manwin banner. Brazzers higher end, more story. Mofos kinda GF / Amateur but not really?

Good luck to everyone,

Let the games begin! :winkwink:

Anthony 03-17-2011 11:41 AM

TTT. Finally read this huge ass thread. I gotta say, I've seen Just Dave's work, and it blows my socks off. Not to familliar with Paul's or anyone else's work, but definately looking forward to seeing this contest unfold.

"As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another." Proverbs 27:17

ReggieDurango 03-17-2011 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 17986071)
Maybe next week. Fabian is arguing about the scene and the contract

Yeah right Paul, you can stop being dramatic now. The REALITY of this thread is certainly fine enough theatre!

Let's suppose you're telling the truth: What is Fabian arguing, exactly? What are YOUR disputes with the contract/situation??

Be transparent, Paul, that's what 2011 is all about!

charlie g 03-17-2011 12:09 PM

Hey Nathan/Fabian when is the deadline for the contest? Send me the script and I will shoot an asian version. balipimp-at-gmail-dot-com

DamianJ 03-17-2011 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 17985641)
I will pretend to do it in order to get a huge long thread and hope some newbs buy my old content.

Quoted for truth.

SB_Content 03-17-2011 01:03 PM

Wow what a great thread! Wow 13 pages, I need some cliff notes. I've directed over 80 scenes for Brazzers and they are a great company to work for. JustDave's gonna kill it!

Shelby Black

Paul Markham 03-17-2011 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReggieDurango (Post 17986069)
Very Cool!

How big can the Brazzers contest be? like, what if 100 different parties want to enter??? The more the merrier hopefully? I want to document as much of this process as possible!

Paul, when should I plan on flying to Europe and where should I fly???

You really should chat this over with me on ICQ, Skype or phone.

+420 603 298 001.

Altwebdesign 03-17-2011 03:58 PM

this is getting good, sooooo looking forward too seeing the finished scenes

ottopottomouse 03-17-2011 04:11 PM

Quote:

Well any contest judge on GFY votes, will have me finishing last.
Video views maybe then.

Nathan 03-17-2011 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charlie g (Post 17986474)
Hey Nathan/Fabian when is the deadline for the contest? Send me the script and I will shoot an asian version. balipimp-at-gmail-dot-com

We will release an official contest in the coming weeks, stay tuned for the press release.

SB_Content 03-17-2011 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 17987020)
We will release an official contest in the coming weeks, stay tuned for the press release.

If anybody can enter, I just might have to fuck with this.. :thumbsup

ReggieDurango 03-17-2011 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 17986646)
You really should chat this over with me on ICQ, Skype or phone.

+420 603 298 001.

Ok, I'll hit you up tomorrow and stuff!

charlie g 03-17-2011 06:01 PM

the marketing potential for this is juicy. I would not let just gfy vote. This would play better on the tubes, sort of an american idol of porn. The winners get contracts and their flicks can be seen on a paysite. Let's see what manwin can do with it.

BVF 03-17-2011 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 17986071)
Maybe next week. Fabian is arguing about the scene and the contract. .

Arguing about WHAT?...You wanted to get the money up front...He's giving you the money up front...How complicated can it be to pay somebody to get a naked girl in front of a camera to masturbate?

Agent 488 03-17-2011 06:06 PM

the old man is chickening out.

Robbie 03-17-2011 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charlie g (Post 17987191)
the marketing potential for this is juicy. I would not let just gfy vote. This would play better on the tubes, sort of an american idol of porn. The winners get contracts and their flicks can be seen on a paysite. Let's see what manwin can do with it.

Great idea! Let's all just GIVE those thieves some more brand new content! AWESOME!

And then make it a big contest on PornHub and the rest of Manwin's tubes to make them even more branded!

But you got one part wrong...the winners get contracts and their flicks can be seen by a handful of people on Manwin's paysites...and by MILLIONS of people on pirate sites for free.

It sure sucks that the company that has helped hurt the income of so many shooters now has them begging to give them even more content for free.

I don't blame the guys. They need to put food on the table and are praying to get hired by Manwin. It's just a sad thing to see.

At least Fabian is showing that he does indeed have some very real talent. The talent to silence his critics. He's doing it with DWB by buying him his own ads on ThePirateBay and he's doing it to content shooters by putting the companies who used to hire them out of business and then having a "contest" where they can now dance and sing for his entertainment.

I can see now how Fabian was able to talk the real owners of Manwin into putting him in his position. It is impressive. :)

Just glad I don't have to dance to his tune. He's meaningless to me. His bosses don't have enough money to afford me. I make too much all on my own.

Good luck though to all of you guys shooting your big scene. And congrats to all of you who are breathlessly waiting to see who "wins"
The only smart guy in this whole fucking thread is Markham. He's getting paid and paid well.

lagcam 03-17-2011 06:20 PM

Am I the only one shocked at how many people now WANT to do business with Manwin.

Robbie 03-17-2011 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by lagcam (Post 17987230)
Am I the only one shocked at how many people now WANT to do business with Manwin.

Nope. I am shocked and sickened by it myself. But they have no choice. They didn't take action when piracy first started. Now they are fucked and their income is not what it needs to be.

So they are now ready to throw themselves at Fabian.

And just like happened a couple of years ago...they are reacting instead of being proactive.
Manwin is really just one new copyright law and treaty away from going back to being a small company again in porn.


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