I mean, you shouldn't be shocked - manwin's a whole new company now with new ownership... they seem much more industry-friendly

Robbie, I agree with you 100%. The damage is done, however. You've figured out how to protect CM, but most others haven't. Manwin is going to steal IP until someone stops them. People like us giving them the finger on a forum only provides entertainment for nathan/fabian. He doesn't fucking care because he is making bank.

You can also call nathan/fabian many things, but stupid is not one of them. The guy couldn't beat TPB so he is trying to advertise there. I actually think it's stupid to advertise where people can get the same shit for free, but what do I know. The point is that IF some porn makers can make bank with manwin they would be foolish not to. Either sell it to them or have it stolen; or become bartenders.

I have quit selling altogether and am just shooting for my own site now. And to be honest, I probably would never work with manwin because I don't need to. But I am really interested in seeing people do their best work, maybe learn something about what a good porn product should look like. I am even interested to see what I can do if I tried to make a really good fuck flick.

So do I think nathan/fabian is a fucking scab-leach-vulture?. Abso-fucking-lutely. Does that change my interest in this concept? Nope.

Fabian, For Real, Player, why don't you just BUY TPB??? - those fuckers ain't sellin?

BTW, Paul, Fabian, JustDavexxx, Cherry, and all the rest who are enjoying this thread (even YOU Robbie), please help me in my similar thread battle with block-heads!:
https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1014170&page=2

Post #81 pretty much sums it up (at least the bottom of that post - though i think you will enjoy the top of it! Who is this GatorB(itch) CLOWN anyway???)

The point of the thread is that good content is really the best hope for the industry, yet block-heads and ignoramous fucks on this board are virtually impossible to coerce into actually WATCHING the content they are promoting!! It's bonkers! I actually got in a fight with one affiliate MANAGER on ICQ (as I discuss in post #81) who was insisting that as part of his job he doesn't have to watch the content!!! AND he was questioning MY motives!! I was like, I directed and edited these scenes, and I'm proud of them, and my real end game is simply to get as many views on these (in my mind) high-quality scenes as possible! I know I probably won't get affiliate referrals, which proves I don't have much to gain from this financially... I just want honest viewers to enjoy (or not enjoy, but at least consider enjoying) my porno "art".
I'd like to continue this debate over quality-compelling content in that thread - so come on down! Agent 488 I know YOU'VE already been there - meany!!!!
https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1014170&page=2

Thus those in this thread who seem to actually care about the content itself, please assist with the debate! I think that is what unites us in this thread! Paul, that is why you and Fabian VERY well might be friends some day! Let us unite! Lets us destroy the true haters: those that don't give a FUCK about the content.
Everyone here is encouraged to go to the thread ( again https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1014170&page=2 ) and post a review of one of my scenes I did for Pimproll. Paul, I would LOVE you personally to review one of these in your style on that thread! I'd owe you Paul, dog, plus I think you guys should like the content. It's all comedy porn - so if you don't like humor porn don't watch - but if you DO watch I encourage any and all to post your own reviews or responses or criticisms on the other thread. Here are the three scenes:
http://www.porn.com/porn-video/faye-...ani-95836.html
http://www.porn.com/porn-video/fanbo...uck-95837.html
http://www.porn.com/porn-video/tia-c...rth-95838.html

EVEN if you guys post negative reviews, I still would highly appreciate your honest opinions!

DUDE!!! STOP!! JUST STOP!!

I dont know you and im not here to attack you, but i have read your posts about various things. I have also read your thread "on Promote PimpRoll under your IDl" Where PR Dave Wrote;


Its also funny how you tried to infer that you shot the MileyXXX video. I know who it was and thats because i call that person friend and we are always brainstorming ideas and concepts. But I knew PR Dave would jump in and set the record straight. And he did.




You are really pissing everyone off. You also talk about things that you know nothing about. Even if you are the best shooter on the net, nobody will ever want to see what you got or wire you money, because you sound like a drug using nut job.

You quote your self 20 times in a single thread, you create spam threads and you bring one thread subject into another with out any rhyme or reason.


Im not here to insult you or pee in your Cherios, but you need to cut this shit out. You come off as a "Batt Shit Crazy" person with no concept of board etiquette.


I'm not going to say that you suck or your work sucks, but if you are proud of your work make a thread and post your work in that thread.


As i see it you are trying to "thread Jack" a 13 page thread that you really have no business being in. That is rude, disrespectful to everyone in this thread and is one good way to piss everyone off.


Hope you take what I say as constructive and as roadmap on how to act and not act on this board.:2 cents:

[QUOTE=Shameless;17986373]You know what this tread needs? A fucking Waaaaaaahhhmmm-bulance. Sounds like a lot of whiners and people blurting out shit that makes no sense. The camera with interchangeable lenses, I'm assuming it's 1 CMOS sensor, which will have rolling shutter when you pan with sex.

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Yeah thats why Feature Films are full of technical faults and porn is the technical gold standard Hollywood aspires to.

If you hire a camera you test it before use....

If you are an "industry professional" exporting the file in the format for your client should not be a problem.

..........

In discussing quality and content a camera that shoot something in a new way should be of interest.

The quality of the camera has little to do with the quality of the porn. If it's judged on the quality of the camera I might well lose. Will try to loan better kit, but who knows.

I've never known anyone jerk off to a porn scene because it was crystal sharp and clear. In fact many surfers prefer amateur shot content because it's real. That's the problem with so much porn today, the models are on auto pilot, do a bad fake scene and they all start to look like each other.

This isn't just Manwin sites, it's the vast majority of sites. If one site gets an idea it then repeats it over and over and over again 50 to 500 times and soon the viewer gets bored with seeing the same scene played out the same way over and over with the only thing changing is the girls face. Pussies all look very similar and if a film is to Gynecological it gets more boring even quicker.

In 1990 I was selling videos mail order ad the vast majority of them was a girl on a bad, sofa or in a kitchen. But there were only 5 of us doing it in the UK. And it didn't harm sales. Today with 10s of 1,000s of sites innovation is badly required. Yet very thin on the ground.

This from a guy who ran an enormous TGP site charging to give away free porn. Now he's complaining someone has leap frogged him in giving away more than he could. Robbie I saw it coming. Everyone was leap frogging each other in how much they could give away, the only thing holding them back was BW prices.

As for Manwin being a law or treaty away from being a small company. Well that's more wishful than me wishing to be 40 again. They have enough content to go legit if they have to everyone else has to. Also this business has driven down the price of content to a level that they can invest a $50K and buy everything they will ever need.

Welcome to the business you helped create.

Look, don't be so mean to Paul. He needs the money. It wasn't that long ago he was trying to beg here for glasses, and that whole debacle where he had to pretend he didn't have access to his own bank account and begged here again.

You don't know the reasons behind his departure from England, and I am not going to go into them here, but let's say he needs this 3k. I'm sure at some point in your past you needed some money, so don't be so rude to Paul for sucking the cock of the man he claims has ruined the industry. It's not hypocritical. He just needs the cash. Back off Robbie. You've made your millions. Give another guy a go.

14 pages, who would of thought. :thumbsup

Again with the accusations. Speak up or you're a liar.

What is the lie, Paul?

Robbie doesn't know the reasons you left the UK. And I am not going to go into them.

No lies, paul, just facts.

You seem a little paranoid about something?

The fact that we came to CZ can be seen on the content sites.

Under 500 sets shot in the UK in 10 years. Over 2,000 shot here in under 10 years.

That = $$$$$$$$ :GFYBand

And why I'm living in comfort and you're living in a dump, worried if you'll have a job next year.

I beg to differ, if it is a hot scene and I can't see the action, its crap.

I want a hot scene in focus where I can see everything....

The girls are the same its the makers that are different. Not to say that the director's input (What you call the porn bit ) is important... At the end of the day you are making a representation of sex not sex itself. It can be done better...

The industry has found that it does not have to be done well to sell.

It is depressing that all you seem to be argueing for is a little less crap porn...

On the practical side...

You can hire an extremly good camera a SONY EX1 for about $150 a day. This is a great camera and very easy to use with real focus, zoom and f-stops. Like a DSLR. but without being able to change lens.

If you wanted to go up a bit more you could hire an electrician with lights for a few dollars more, there are sparks with experience in the movie industry there that know their stuff and could light your scene like a real movie....

You kind of proved my point there.

Christ on a crutch, if you're not going to go into the reasons he left the UK why don't you just shut the hell up about it.

It's not like anybody cares anyway.

You've become a bigger fucking bore than that one trick pony you keep hating on.

Give it a goddamn rest already.
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Paul, love, I think you are getting confused again.

I said Robbie didn't know why you left the UK. OK?

You called me a liar. Still with me?

I asked how that was a lie, I didn't deny you are in CZ. I stated that.

So, what lie did I tell?

Very easy question.

Because every time I mention it, Paul gets annoyed. This amuses me. Hope that clears up that fucking mystery for ya!

Well you cared enough to post about it. With your great fake nick.

Feel free to put me on ignore, love. Do you see, complaining about something that is SO easy to solve makes you look like a whiny little bitch. You have a problem, and the solution is so easy even DVTimes can do it. So, stop moaning and just put me on ignore.

You have no point. Ever. You are a 1 line snipe with no real opinion about anything. You are so trivial to me you dont even rate my ignore list.

Have a great day!

it is indeed getting annoying now - you are like Waldorf and Stadtler, but not as funny

It is easy i do it on iphone. If model is hot she is hot. Hotter to see her ipics shot by normal sexy guy not perfection picture driven shooter who many times about money not about a girl. The iphone guy shooting girl can shoot her sexier i think.

Plus it is enough quality espesiaaly if that outdoor ))) then light makes it perfect...

Check our content and you will see what i mean. Paul's content as well. )))

This is the lie.

http://www.gfy.com/showpost.php?p=17873308&postcount=75

And this one.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...&postcount=136

Was it my make up artist or my assistant? You can't even get your lies right.

we getting personal on markham now?

What about the challenge at end, i find that more interesting. . . .unless paul has a skelenton in his closet of course haha!

WHY should I stop? I will not stop until certain individuals on this board actually WATCH the content.

ET TU, JUSTDAVE??? - I thought you were smarter than this - at what point did I EVER fucking INFER that I did the Miley video??? Re-read the thread, I never at all claimed it was mine in the least. I certainly like the scene, and that is obvious - please tell your friend great job! Who is it btw?

The only people I am pissing off are those that are ignorant and refuse to watch content. WHAT DO I TALK ABOUT THAT I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT. Be VERY specific Dave, I want examples. And thanks for the advice, I was wondering why no one would wire me $!!! Oh wait, that's not true.
I am not a nut job and the only "drug" I use is medical marijuana!

There is plenty of rhyme AND reason. Watch the content. Stop being a jerk.

You're right - I don't care about board etiquette very much at all.


WHAT!?! THIS is my favorite thread in the history of GFY that Paul started - why would I want to "jack" it???

ReggieDurango stfu fuck you are annoying ...

I love you too

The English in this thread is going downhill fast. For the record:

When a person tries to make an assertion about something without saying it outright they imply. A person listening to another speak or reading their words who draws a conclusion not actually stated in the text infers.

When one asks to use an item that another person owns, the word we use in both American and British English is borrow. When one gives out an item to a friend or acquaintance with the expectation of getting it back it's called a loan.

You and DamianJ are trying WAY too hard....You're trying so hard that it is making YOU look like the fool and not Paul....In fact, you're making Paul look like the smart Pariah....

Try shutting the fuck up for once.

Trying WAY too hard for WHAT?

WHAT the F are you talking about?

Let's get this MOFucking thread BACK on track:

PAUL: What is the status of the contract? When did Fabian say you would get the $???

....... :winkwink:

Paul, I didn't "charge" to "give away" free porn. I use nothing but promo tools from the sponsors and I run clean sites that have personality because I do them by hand not a cookie cutter script.

Nobody "leap frogged" me. That would have meant they came up with a great new way to sell porn. That's not what happened. They STOLE shit. Big difference.

I didn't "help create" that bro.

And as far as Brazzers having enough legit content to still run a site like Pornhub...that's bullshit.

The only reason they have that traffic is millions of people come to pornhub to see everybody else's stolen content. Brazzers shit is just tiny promo clips on there.

And don't forget the millions of surfers who do the user uploads and then brag about it on porn dot bb and planet suzy and the thousands of other surfer forums.

Shut all that down...and all Manwin has is a tube site full of promo clips. Just like a tgp

No more stolen content on pornhub = Alexa rating of 1,000,000

And the Brazzers/Jug Cash paysites are and always will be fairly good/ medium selling sites. No more, no less.

You've already proven the point...

This is a challenge between BRAZZERS and PAUL...All the rest of us are just spectators to this circus....However, YOU are trying to inject yourself as some sort of judge and jury to Paul when He clearly doesn't give a fuck about you...

Nothing wrong with being part of the peanut gallery in this circus...But when you take shit too far, it makes it look like YOU just have a personal vendetta....

So STFU and let shit happen naturally...You've already proven your point.

Some sort of JUDGE??? What, Dude, on earth, are you fucking saying right now?
Are you of this earth? Are you a bot?
Paul, you don't "give a fuck about" me - ?? I'm the documentarian, in this case, and I'm going to document Paul. Paul has agreed and I think he likes the idea. What the F is YOUR problem BVF???
Finally, you said I've proven my point. I've proved a point? What point?

You know damn well I'm not a bot...you're a fucking pimple on Paul's ass who refuses to pop and go away.

GTFOH and let them handle their business and quit throwing bullshit comments from the peanut gallery...And this is coming from someone who doesn't give a DAMN about Paul.

What do our opinions of Paul have to do with anything? What do Paul's opinions of us have to do with anything?

I'm SO confused by you. YES, OF COURSE I know damn well you're not a bot!

I Repeat:
PAUL: What is the status of the contract? When did Fabian say you would get the $???

:thumbsup
Quite often too much effort on perfect lighting etc seems to take the edge off things.

Worse = better


Rubbish camerawork quite often means you can't see a thing

Yes, I fucked a model or 2,3,50 :1orglaugh

Actually don't have a clue how many. Damina is plain lying and can't get it straight, first it was an assistant, then a make up artist. What will it be next, the toilet cleaner? :1orglaugh

Paul, love, I know you are old, but the links you post are to very old threads.

You accused me of lying in this thread, I asked where, and you post links to totally unrelated threads where you accused me of lying. That's not how this works, man. You need to keep in the same thread or else everyone will get as confused as you!

You've been posting a while now, maybe it's time for a nap or some kitten jigsaw?

I must say though, this is a fucking masterclass in views. You're a genius. We both know you won't go through with this, but the very idea of you sucking the cock of piracy is just SO brilliantly outrageous. Even in my wildest, craziest marketing stunt ideas I wouldn't have thought of this.

THREAD OF THE YEAR.

My hat is off to you, Sir. Well done.

At the moment I'm waiting on a reply to my email to Fabian about the contract. He wants to include the clause about it being delivered in a "Timely Fashion" without stating what that is.

And in a form satisfactory in quality and creativity without stating what that is. If it's like some of the scenes I've seen on Mofos, then I can nail that except might have a problem with the cameras. I think I have a camera lined up but who knows. And as this is about the quality of the shooting and not the camera, the camera is pretty irrelevant.

So it's all in Fabian's court. I can shoot whatever scene he sent me, his instructions are fairly vague. Just a bit about toys, DP and props. Nothing too specific.

Of course a porn scene has to be viewable, but that's not a problem. As for it mattering in porn well that's BS.

Everyone wishes it did matter, then porn Tubes would be defunct. But as we know the millions on them not buying porn anymore don't give a shit. Can you imagine if porn was only wank-able in HD wide-screen top quality image?

Then Internet porn would of never got off the ground. DVDs would still rule. :1orglaugh