I've offered tons of advice on how to change. You must of missed it all.

http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1010900

http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1008895

http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1000676

http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=997032

http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=992990

http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=990959

http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=979759

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=979656

And I'm sure more.

The underlying theme is and always will be. Spend more time, attention and money on the product.

It takes a lot to make a site stand out today. So devote a lot to making it stand out. Otherwise it's just the same old stuff on so many other sites.

ya i guess spamming all the boards with the exact same message counts as mentorship.

lol.

So sharing the advice is bad???????????

Can you explain why or just flaming.

You asked if I had offered any advice, now flame me for offering it to too many. :upsidedow

you don't know your onions.

just filling the void until Damian gets back online.

nah i think its good. i know on another board some webmasters really ran with this idea. i hope you stick around afterwards to continue the conversation ;)

Yes I do. Green ones taste the most bitter, red the sweetest. Then there's spring onions. Great is a salad or sauce to give a unique flavor.

What's that got to do with porn?

plsureking don't sink to Damian's level. Or try to look stupid like Agent. It's unbecoming.

Here's some of the accusations flung at me time after time.

I don't shoot the right style = I shoot the right style, it's the style that pays me the most.

I live in the past = Like most webmasters who dream of it being like 2000.

I can't change = A lot of my thread are all about you lot changing. You lot refuse to change.

My prime was in the 80s or 90s = No it wasn't our best years ever were 2004/5 More mags and Internet sales.

I'm too old to understand = No I understand fully. The customer is King and if you don't give him exactly what he wants he will go elsewhere. In this case to free tubes with your content on. Even if it's shot by someone else.

Non Exclusive is saturated = It's good content and sells and sels and sells to sites that get sign ups. Otherwise it won't get saturated.

I'm going to watch TV. LOL

lol. i give u shit for being old and hence i think you've lost a bit of the hunger that some of us mid-career guys have. but more importantly, all i really care about is the fact that you sometimes write really negative posts that may discourage nubes from coming into the business. if Zuckerberg was discouraged by some old onion, we may never have gotten the best social tool we've ever had.

Any newbie put off by my post is best not trying the Adult Internet. It's not easy these days and the first 3 months will put him off a lot faster.

If he takes in what I'm saying he might sit back and think it's tough and needs a new approach. 100s of people copying FB are doomed to fail.

The Adult Internet needs fresh new people with a new approach. Noth those easily put off copying the successful already here. Most of them are successful because they've been here 5-10 years and have 1,000s of affiliates, only 100 worth having LOL. And no newbie can copy that.

Yes I lost my hunger for shooting scenes for $500 a throw. Or BG for $3,000. Give me $3,000 for solo and see me lick my lips and give up the retired life. :thumbsup

I know the present day shooters have to take what's given. I don't and can call it like I see it.

this is several lines of the bullshit im talking about. negative shit trying to persuade some nube from getting in the biz. but i'd take some nube that spent the last 2 years in mainstream seo over some old content shooter who's day is long past. at least the seo guy can bring something to the table. u are so negative. i hope u dont have grandchildren.

Paul, tell me a price, including everything (ie the girls, props, location) for you to shoot a scene for me. All I do is give you the script, you shoot it, and give raw back to us... we cut it and release...

Show us what you got.. name the price...

paul you should consider turning your site into a tube http://www.markhamteens.com/

I'm pretty sure he doesn't shoot anymore.....but interesting offer either way. Does Paul have what it takes to get behind the camera again or will he balk?

Way to call his bluff, Fabian. Should be worth a few grand just for a laugh if he actually follows through. Either way, I'd definitely take you up on the same offer to show you my stuff. No other independent producer shoots more cute new American girls than I do on a regular basis.

Jim, email me, I will connect you to the right guy. We always do test shoots with new producers..

[email protected]

Paul, I don't agree with your overall assessment of porn.

I think that you're missing the fact that the people who buy porn are what really move the market and how it's shot.

As for models faking it...I agree. But I had a lot of videos that I used to watch in the late 1970's and early 1980's, and even though Seka was/is my favorite porn whore of all times...She and Christy Canyon, and Vanessa Del Rio were HORRIBLE at faking it. And they were the biggest stars of that time.

Having said all that...I wish you were here in the states. Your photography skills are awesome. And I'd love to sit under the learning tree and watch you shoot. Matter of fact I'd love to have you shoot a scene of Claudia-Marie for me and let me watch you work.

I always learn something from people.

For instance...the stuff I shoot well is what I love. I'm the worst at shooting "glam". But my friend Charlie Biggs specializes in it. He just has an eye for that kind of thing. He composes and frames a pic in a completely different way than I would. And vice-versa.

Anyway, just wanted to throw in a tip of the hat to your abilities. Again, I think you might not be taking some things into account in your analysis of the business. But I respect your abilities from the photos you posted and the magazines that are part of your resume.

Looks to me like you were one of a handful of shooters at that level during that time period. And no matter the joking around by everybody...that's pretty damn impressive. Very few guys reach that level no matter what sector of the industry they work in.

PORN IS DEAD no one is buying content.

He told you already:

But, what will happen is he will pretend not to read your post or the rest of this thread and will not post on it again.

Standard MO with him.

He's all mouth and no trousers. I've pwned him dozens and dozens of times and he just pretends not to read it, hides for a few days, then comes back and posts the same old tired shit about porn being crap today compared to his photographic genius.

I'll bet you the 3k he wants for the scene that happens!

:)

Although, I admire you no end for calling him out.

Damian,

I saw that, I need to see him say that to me again... then I'll ask for a price for 2 40 minute scenes for http://www.shesafreak.com/ with the same girl....

Let's see what he says...

I know you saw, :)

I was just bumping the thread he's gonna pretend not to see.

Good plan, should make sure the thread is always nicely bumped :)

I told you the price $3,000 for a solo girl set and a video.

Of course this is subject to seeing your script. It might go up or down, it's based on what we used to shoot.

Solo girl content.

If you want something more involved the price will rise. If you want something very amateur the price will lower. Happy to keep the conversation here as well as by email. Will email you in a minute.

Paul,

check out shesafreak.com ... that style. We usually do 2 or 3 scenes per girl though when we do a shoot. So tell me an approx price for that, then I will get it going.

If Markham ever has the balls to man up and actually shoot something for Fabian, I will double the fee personally, and give my half to the cancer charity of Paul's choosing.

I am honestly looking forward to this to be honest... I'd love to see what he can do for us....

I'll wager it won't happen, but I admire your enthusiasm.

It would be hilarious to actually see him try and make something today. After admitting himself that his own content isn't up to today's standards.

No you misunderstand me. That's exactly my point. The site owners buying and shooting totally move the market. Vivid, Wicked, Evil Angel and more set their standards high. Generally speaking the Adult Internet set their standards low.

Yes models have always faked it, but now it seems the vast majority do and do it very badly. Where as in the past fewer did and more did it better. Part of this is due to buyers pushing producers to over produce in a day. Many solo girl sites, ATK, Karups, Mayer wanted shooter to do 5 sets and videos in a day. Very, very few girls can or will climax 5 times in front of a camera in one day. Even on BG some wanted 3 scenes in a day, not possible to shoot it right. So the controlling factor was get it done and move onto the next scene.

If you give me a pass into your site I will take a look and offer some tips from a different aspect. Done this for a few sites and the only one I went public about was Brazzers. Because Manwin have no problem going public with other peoples content and so many were screaming it was good. I gave Nathan some tips on how to improve his content. Which he agreed was good and said he would forward to his shooters.

Maybe that's one of the problems with this side of the industry. Instead of going to see what the DVD industry is doing, going to the shows, buying and studying the product, it remains very insular and feeling superior that driving traffic is some sort of art.

My analysis of the business is very plain. We spend too much time, money and attention to driving traffic as if it's the solution to all problems. And too little time to the actual product, as if so long as we throw enough traffic at it something will stick.

The truth is the more traffic we got the more traffic we needed to achieve the same result. Yet today the answer is still more traffic.

We should not ignore traffic completely, but bring some balance to the difference.

The old business was very different. You were not paid until a set was published.Or on a video until a very wary and experienced buy bought it. Except with commissioned work and even then if it was wrong you might get it given back to you.

During my reviewing of sites I have yet to find a set that would of been published. The mistakes are very basic and an editor would just give the set back and if you didn't improve stop looking at your work. If you didn't improve you went bankrupt. A similar situation occurred in the video industry.

The retention of buyers to a magazine or video title was awesome. Because buyers knew next months edition would be as good as last months.

Today the situation is very different on the Adult Internet will take nearly anything in the belief that quantity is better of quality and the result is sites full of low quality filler content.

Brazzers would be better off IMO adding 2 scenes a day instead of 3 and spending the same money to get the scenes right. And that goes for a lot of sites. Adding more of the same low quality cloned scenes isn't really a great reason to stay. The next site has the same niche, similar style. Yet shot a different way so more appealing.

You might lose your wager.

Emailed Fabian a few minutes ago.

The only variation is the price according to the script.

Can't wait to see it Paul. Really. Can't wait.

I can confirm, he eMailed me... I will let you know if we come to an agreement so everyone knows and can wait for it...

You can see my content everywhere. Don't forget non exclusive is saturated. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Yes Fabian and I will keep you all posted on this.

How many scenes do you want Fabian?

Fabian's email

My reply.

I'm off to have something to eat. Back in a bit. LOL

Honest to god. I am on the edge of my seat waiting for this epic deal to be done and you to shoot for Fabien.

Don't break for lunch Paul, hammer out the deal.

Had lunch, then a sleep. Need to sleep often during the day. Due to the therapy.

Fabian hasn't replied yet, so not missed anything.

Need to wait for Montreal to wake up ;)

Paul,

Here are all the info you need for SAF:

VIDEO SPECS
We usually ask to shoot SAF on AVCHD or on XDCAM EX 1080p30. Both are good for us. Videos should all have three parts to them, meaning that every scene counts as 3 scenes. Each scene should have the same girl doing a solo in 3 different locations or settings and wearing 3 different wardrobes.

PICTURE SPECS
Since the scenes are split in three parts, each part should have at least 300 pictures.

SCRIPTS
We always send scripts for scenes, but they are usually more like guidelines for wardrobe and setting. The actions totally depend on the girls we get, some of them go a bit further than others. We usually write the scripts before we book the girls so it's usually up to the director to feel the girl's limits and give us the best they can to cater to the SAF members.

Considering that, tell me a price...

Same girl of course... same location...

i've been working on a short porn script that might be perfect for this.

summary: an old retired porn shooter sneaks into the offices of a new porn company to measure the staff bathrooms to get an idea of their revenue.

he measure a few washrooms then walks into one where a porn actress visiting is masturbating. she invites him to drop the tape measure and fuck her.

i will provide the rest upon request.

Why anyone gives this BROKE old retard Paul Markham any time is beyond me

It was only a few months ago when he was begging for money because he doesn't have his own bank account, didn't have any cash, didn't even have his own cash card or even his own credit card.

He doesn't even notice if his join links work on his site. A site has no working join links and he doesn't notice, what does that tell you about his average daily sales?

The man is broke, stupid and boring.

No that's 3 scenes. So the price is $9,000.

As I said it's about people paying me $3,000 for a scene. 1 girl, 1, location/setting, 1 wardrobe and 200 pics. Shooting 300 would be no problem though. This is 3 scenes.

If I was to shoot that in the days I worked I would have 3 scenes which was worth $9,000.

3 scenes of 200 images and 3 videos of 12 to 20 minutes each.

The moment we have to redress the model, move the lights, reset the lights, go through a strip and action it's 3 scene.

Nice try but pay me $3,000 per scene or don't bother.

Damian will be pleased.

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bjlover. People gave me a lot of time and money when I worked, which wasn't so long ago. We sold non exclusive for far far more than any one shooting exclusive THEN and now. And that's what clowns like you refuse to get. In 2000 to 2008 we were shooting scenes that earned us far more money than Dean, Jim, Brian, Aaron, or any custom shooter could dream of. Nothing to do with TODAY this is about yesterday. These guys who you think are great worked for a lot less than we would.

Today they have no options in 2005 to 2008 they did. Bad shooters or businessmen, what do you think?

And the excuse I couldn't be bothered is the most stupid. It's like an affiliate saying I can't be bothered to move to a sponsor who is worth more for the same traffic or a sponsor ignoring 50% of his traffic. The most honest would be "I couldn't compete in that market."

Any shooter who wants to argue that need only post here the site he would like me to review the content of, to get the truth.

My anger is due to clowns like you posting insults with absolutely nothing to base them on.

We had money, the problem was the way our banking was structured. I was locked out of the account when Eva had her accident. We had staff, hosting, rent and a few other bills to pay and no access to our funds. So I asked around the boards and on my mail out if anyone wanted to do a deal.

Once I had access to the accounts, had to get a lawyer onto it and wait for Eva to be in ward she could have visitors we got the documents signed and witnessed by the lawyer and I had access to the accounts.

Biggest mistake I ever made in business and I accept it.

Can't please everybody I guess... 9000 is definitely not happening for the same girl. Your costs are rather simply structured. This is not a deal about you making the same money as you made when you did a shoot and then sold it later.

The point also is more about seeing what you can do that is so much better. 3000 for such 3 scenes is clearly not little money, its quite a lot actually.. 12 to 20 minutes will not cut it either though anyway to be honest... Scene must be much longer than that...

This is also not a "nice try" ... let's do a BG scene instead, how much do you want for that? It will be easier, you asked for the solo girl thing...

Bumping it to show people what Fabian is like. Says he will pay me $3,000 for 1 scene. Then turns 1 scene into 3 scenes.

Same girl, same building. But still 3 scenes.

Damian where are you to flame me?

I told Eva and she laughed. Then asked "Do you want to do it?"

For anyone I liked I might think about it, for him No Fucking Way!!!!!

Made me think though, maybe I should phone Trojan and Hustler and ask them if they want some 2-3 girls scenes. Could shoot one of them without a video and make $3,000.

Will keep you all posted, might be fun to do a shoot again. Maybe team up with someone here and do it.

Would be interesting to see if I can still make that from 1 scene.