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12clicks 02-23-2011 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 17935445)
dear capt jackass, nice to see you back from the graveyard shift at mcdonalds..

please tell me how the tea party and walker are reigning in govt spending..


dear idiot. If you don't understand this, you're too far down the evolutionary ladder to speak to.
now run along and play.:1orglaugh

NemesisEnforcer 02-23-2011 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 17934220)
you lived in Europe, you know that in hardly any other free country there is a news source that is so big AND so biased as is Fox News. And that in hardly any other free country the media is as biased as it is in the US (to both sides).
Therefore it surely is necessary to watch more than one source to get the full picture, but that requires a certain IQ to realize that. the common idiot sticks to the source where he likes the news the best.

and i wasn't joking about Al Jazeera btw

That?s so true, Fox news is awful. During the Iraq conflict, I would watch Fox News to feel good about the war. I would then switch to CNN to come down to earth. I also checked out the BBC and al Jazeera to see what the rest of the world was getting.

12clicks 02-23-2011 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17935452)
Not factual because you say so? That proves that it is factual..... simply you saying it's not factual, 100% means I'm without question your god and I'm correct.

dear idiot.
this is false:
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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17935452)
What you had with the tea party was pure all out hate, a shit ton of racism, and more stupidity than America could handle.

this would be factual:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_Party_movement
"""The Tea Party is an American populist[1][2][3] political movement, which is generally recognized as conservative and libertarian,[4][5] and has sponsored protests and supported political candidates since 2009.[6][7][8] It endorses reduced government spending,[9][10] opposition to taxation in varying degrees,[10] reduction of the national debt and federal budget deficit,[9] and adherence to an originalist interpretation of the United States Constitution.[11]""""



one was written by an idiot. one was written by wikipedia.:thumbsup

MaDalton 02-23-2011 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Minte (Post 17934304)
Pick up a copy of the NewYork Times...or flip on CBS,ABC or NBC.
They all have their agenda.Fox news is exactly as far to the right as MSNBC is to the left.

i don't doubt that. it's sad though

LiveDose 02-23-2011 08:38 AM

The news media should be for entertainment purposes only. You can't have a functioning brain and take these people seriously anymore.

TheDoc 02-23-2011 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 17935477)
dear idiot.
this is false:


this would be factual:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_Party_movement
"""The Tea Party is an American populist[1][2][3] political movement, which is generally recognized as conservative and libertarian,[4][5] and has sponsored protests and supported political candidates since 2009.[6][7][8] It endorses reduced government spending,[9][10] opposition to taxation in varying degrees,[10] reduction of the national debt and federal budget deficit,[9] and adherence to an originalist interpretation of the United States Constitution.[11]""""



one was written by an idiot. one was written by wikipedia.:thumbsup

Of course a stain such as yourself would ignore the 1,000's of hours of video of tea party protests where people held racial signs, a ton of all around hate that was without question the #1 thing, and in general political signs that most people couldn't correctly explain, when asked about them and the fact that so many held up hate signs with Obama, blaming him directly..... only a blind fool denies what is easily provable.

marketsmart 02-23-2011 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 17935467)
dear idiot. If you don't understand this, you're too far down the evolutionary ladder to speak to.
now run along and play.:1orglaugh

dear stupid, the only thing i understand is that the long term effects of this will have negative and far reaching implications that go far beyond labor reform...

now, would you please answer my original question or do you just know how to copy paste wiki pages... :1orglaugh





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potter 02-23-2011 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 17934098)
Wow, I guess you really have drunk the koolaid buddy. I've been to a ton of Tea Party rallies


wait wait wait wait.....

You're claiming OTHERS are "drinking the koolaid", or "biased".....

If the shoe fits dude. Your opinion on this is obviously more biased than anyone else's. You should probably step out of this thread now.

Tom_PM 02-23-2011 09:05 AM

Destroy all humans.

It's the only solution that caters to all parties :1orglaugh

sperbonzo 02-23-2011 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by potter (Post 17935505)
wait wait wait wait.....

You're claiming OTHERS are "drinking the koolaid", or "biased".....

If the shoe fits dude. Your opinion on this is obviously more biased than anyone else's. You should probably step out of this thread now.

Actually, I've been to a ton of rallies of all kinds, some of which I agreed with, others that I did not. I choose to stay active, and to go to political events in person, where possible, rather than rely on the so-called "news" to tell me what THEY thought about what happened there.


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12clicks 02-23-2011 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 17935504)
dear stupid, the only thing i understand is that the long term effects of this will have negative and far reaching implications that go far beyond labor reform...

now, would you please answer my original question or do you just know how to copy paste wiki pages...

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I told you to run along and play, troll

Vendzilla 02-23-2011 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17934107)
The 1st Tea Party protest was in 2009, which had no ground until Obama signed the ARRA stimulus - which was 10 days before the protest.

I posted pictures of the tea party protest we went to here... so you'll have to try again.

First Tea Party protest was in January of 2009

And as a slap in the face statement, hate to tell you this, the present WI administration campaigned on fixing the budget and talked about how the cost of the state unions were hurting the economy of the state, they won, they control.
The unions are out numbered and according to the Rasmussen polls, they have over a 10 difference, they have the support of the American people.

The big thing here is that if this goes thru, and I believe it will, it will domino with the other states, which has already started, it will kill the power of the unions and kill off the money going to the democrat party, this is a major game changer!!!

In 2006, people wanted change, they got it with Reid and Pelosi, they made it worse, now people want REAL change from their fuck ups,Evidence being the vote last Nov, I really think this is the end of how the democrat party works, if not killing if off completely.



The big thing I see is that the left has always been the rally people, they have always been the get out the vote people, now that the Tea Party has rallied, the left can only bitch and whine about it, claiming Racisim and voilence when there has been studies to prove otherwise. They are acting like children, and no one cares about them anymore.

Tom_PM 02-23-2011 09:54 AM

Thats right. It's all about changing the game. Out of the top 10 donators to political parties, 7 are republican supporters, and 3 are democrat supporters. The 3 democrat supporting donators are Unions. Bust them, and you bust donations to democrats nationally, and you run the game.

Now if only the governors of WI, IN, OH and NJ had the actual balls to be honest about it... But no, they lie to the idiot masses who trudge along behind them like a ghastly parade of zombie's out for fresh brains, which unfortunately they eat rather than insert into their heads.

It's a fight for the death of the "middle class" we're watching here, nothing less.

_Richard_ 02-23-2011 10:48 AM

funny how the tea party stands for 'small government', yet are backing up walker and his union/democratic busting agenda

Sly 02-23-2011 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 17935742)
funny how the tea party stands for 'small government', yet are backing up walker and his union/democratic busting agenda

I don't follow what irony you see in that.

_Richard_ 02-23-2011 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 17935743)
I don't follow what irony you see in that.

sorry to hear that

_Richard_ 02-23-2011 10:52 AM


sperbonzo 02-23-2011 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 17935742)
funny how the tea party stands for 'small government', yet are backing up walker and his union/democratic busting agenda

Public sector unions are a different story than private sector unions. If they don't get what they want at the bargaining table they can go to the state legislatures and use the huge political fund reserves available to influence a change in state laws to get what they want, thus effectively going around the bargaining table. No private sector union has this power. (No state can pass a law forcing a private company to pay more, and no vote of the taxpayers can decide what a private company pays).


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AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 02-23-2011 11:11 AM

Gov. Scott Walker (Wisconsin) is a Koch whore - here is an audio recording of Walker talking a few days ago with a person on the other end whom he thinks is anti-union Billionaire David Koch, who is financing much of the tea party "grass roots" anti-union activity:





ADG

12clicks 02-23-2011 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 17935615)
Thats right. It's all about changing the game. Out of the top 10 donators to political parties, 7 are republican supporters, and 3 are democrat supporters. The 3 democrat supporting donators are Unions. Bust them, and you bust donations to democrats nationally, and you run the game.

Now if only the governors of WI, IN, OH and NJ had the actual balls to be honest about it... But no, they lie to the idiot masses who trudge along behind them like a ghastly parade of zombie's out for fresh brains, which unfortunately they eat rather than insert into their heads.

It's a fight for the death of the "middle class" we're watching here, nothing less.

no, sorry. the idiot masses were the ones like yourself who wanted obama to take from your betters and give to you.
that was the "change" you voted for. I laugh at what you actually got. An invigorated intelligent voting block called the tea party.
and don't worry about NJ, we'll bust the unions too with full public support.

_Richard_ 02-23-2011 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 17935766)
Public sector unions are a different story than private sector unions. If they don't get what they want at the bargaining table they can go to the state legislatures and use the huge political fund reserves available to influence a change in state laws to get what they want, thus effectively going around the bargaining table. No private sector union has this power. (No state can pass a law forcing a private company to pay more, and no vote of the taxpayers can decide what a private company pays).


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that is great?

what does it have to do with a budget deficit created by tax cuts to walkers backers?

there is documents from the financial bureau of wisconsin saying so, what is countering THAT power?

TheDoc 02-23-2011 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17935596)
First Tea Party protest was in January of 2009

And as a slap in the face statement, hate to tell you this, the present WI administration campaigned on fixing the budget and talked about how the cost of the state unions were hurting the economy of the state, they won, they control.
The unions are out numbered and according to the Rasmussen polls, they have over a 10 difference, they have the support of the American people.

The big thing here is that if this goes thru, and I believe it will, it will domino with the other states, which has already started, it will kill the power of the unions and kill off the money going to the democrat party, this is a major game changer!!!

In 2006, people wanted change, they got it with Reid and Pelosi, they made it worse, now people want REAL change from their fuck ups,Evidence being the vote last Nov, I really think this is the end of how the democrat party works, if not killing if off completely.



The big thing I see is that the left has always been the rally people, they have always been the get out the vote people, now that the Tea Party has rallied, the left can only bitch and whine about it, claiming Racisim and voilence when there has been studies to prove otherwise. They are acting like children, and no one cares about them anymore.

I know, and Obama signed his stimulus plan 10 days before, the protest was dead before that happened.

None of that had to do with the protest or really even future protests.

I'm not sure how Unions, have anything to do with Reid or Pelosi, change, nov, or anything related. Just because you're a member of a Union, does not make you a left/democrat, at all, at any level, at any point, or even a tiny bit.

I know you guys like to think Unions are left/dem, but sorry to tell you, to crush your dreams of unions being these left groups, reality is - they are all over the board.

Studies? Hahaha, bullshit... I've heard it with my own ears, seen it with my own eyes, and watched enough video to know it's without question. And you ignoring it, pretending that it didn't happen shows your true colors.

_Richard_ 02-23-2011 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 17935766)
Public sector unions are a different story than private sector unions. If they don't get what they want at the bargaining table they can go to the state legislatures and use the huge political fund reserves available to influence a change in state laws to get what they want, thus effectively going around the bargaining table. No private sector union has this power. (No state can pass a law forcing a private company to pay more, and no vote of the taxpayers can decide what a private company pays).


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of course, according to the rhetoric, the majority apparently voted for this deficit and resulting union busting

not fixing the economy, again, of course. just union busting.

Tom_PM 02-23-2011 11:22 AM

The tea party chants get the government out of our lives, and smaller government. Now they support a single governor (not even sworn in yet btw) removing rights of individuals because the government knows best. (oh and because they donate to democrats, but dont tell anyone that)

I think I see a hole in their dont tread on me argument.

People seem to forget that Bush left with telling America and the world that our economy was hopelessly broken without his grand stimulus plan. Warning that the recession could turn into a depression. Now watch this drive.

12clicks 02-23-2011 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 17935826)
The tea party chants get the government out of our lives, and smaller government. Now they support a single governor (not even sworn in yet btw) removing rights of individuals because the government knows best.

dear idiot, the duly elected governor, house, and senate are all voting on this plan. there is no RIGHT to collective bargaining (regardless of how you pretend). You see, son, the people know best.
Bloated, overpaid, government workers are an evil the tea party is glad to see being handled.

TheDoc 02-23-2011 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 17935841)
dear idiot, the duly elected governor, house, and senate are all voting on this plan. there is no RIGHT to collective bargaining (regardless of how you pretend). You see, son, the people know best.
Bloated, overpaid, government workers are an evil the tea party is glad to see being handled.

Wow... we overpay teachers? We overpay the police, fire and state protection services?

So you don't think the people that help build our country and protect our children, don't deserve to have the same working rights as you, wage increases with inflation, family benefits, the ability to make sure they don't get screwed over... they don't deserve the rights you enjoy - simply because they work for the State/Gov?

The people do know best, that's why they're protesting it.

Hey, I've got not problem blaming the tea party for the massive amount of police/firemen that have been laid off and the massive ignoring of our failing infrastructure - hell yeah, this is credit they deserve!

Tom_PM 02-23-2011 11:43 AM

This junior governor having his 15 minutes gives tax breaks to corporations with one hand and tries to force public unionized employees* to give up their collective bargaining because of a fairy tale budget crisis with the other.

*except the unions that supported his run for office. Of course.

What are the recall laws in Wisconsin? Wonder how many signatures they've gotten so far.

Tom_PM 02-23-2011 11:45 AM

Duh. We overpay everyone who leans democratic. But on the bright side, sales of luxury goods is spiking higher than ever. It's only the poor who think something is wrong. Get with it man.

Minte 02-23-2011 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 17935868)
This junior governor having his 15 minutes gives tax breaks to corporations with one hand and tries to force public unionized employees* to give up their collective bargaining because of a fairy tale budget crisis with the other.

*except the unions that supported his run for office. Of course.

What are the recall laws in Wisconsin? Wonder how many signatures they've gotten so far.

Recall? We just elected this administration to do precisely what they are doing.
And the good news for the taxpayers in this state is that the Governor will win.

You see a group of people making noise on the square. It's less than 1% of the states population. We have been one of the highest taxed stated for decades and that is going to change.

marketsmart 02-23-2011 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 17935841)
dear idiot, the duly elected governor, house, and senate are all voting on this plan. there is no RIGHT to collective bargaining (regardless of how you pretend). You see, son, the people know best.
Bloated, overpaid, government workers are an evil the tea party is glad to see being handled.

you are so dumb, i am surprised you can even manage to breathe....

everything makes sense about you...

at the root, you are nothing more than a dumb republican blue collar worker...

you are mad at the world because you are a dinosaur, an ignorant oaf who got lucky and made a few dollars when adult was easy..

you are on a downward spiral and no matter how hard you try to act the opposite, everyone who has been around for awhile sees through your bullshit...

keep trying to convince yourself that you are relevant...

cross selling is a top notch way to make money... :thumbsup







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IllTestYourGirls 02-23-2011 01:10 PM

The public sector unions do not have the right to collectively bargain. That would be called "a special right". They have the right to petition the government just like the rest of us.

BFT3K 02-23-2011 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 17936067)
you are so dumb, i am surprised you can even manage to breathe....

everything makes sense about you...

at the root, you are nothing more than a dumb republican blue collar worker...

you are mad at the world because you are a dinosaur, an ignorant oaf who got lucky and made a few dollars when adult was easy..

you are on a downward spiral and no matter how hard you try to act the opposite, everyone who has been around for awhile sees through your bullshit...

keep trying to convince yourself that you are relevant...

cross selling is a top notch way to make money... :thumbsup
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12 Dicks is a total ass clown. He's so proud to be an idiotic flag waving American capitalist, but in the end, all of his 2257 links point to a UK address. Scared of your own government maybe?

tony286 02-23-2011 01:35 PM

Its funny when the right wins its the people spoke and elections have consequences. When obama won it was he is taking my country. They are pushing things on the american people. Make up your mind which one?
As far as tea party bullshit , we have some of the lowest taxes of any country in the world and a large chunk of the tea party dont pay taxes so what the fuck are they talking about?They were played by the rich. Its sad really.

TheDoc 02-23-2011 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 17936133)
The public sector unions do not have the right to collectively bargain. That would be called "a special right". They have the right to petition the government just like the rest of us.

Looks like they do... when the people don't come back to work, they clearly have collective bargaining power and the State is clearly bargaining with them.

They have the right to stand up fight for what they believe in, just like the rest of us... it makes no difference who they work for.

$5 submissions 02-23-2011 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 17934091)
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/am...564409366.html

for unbiased news go to Al Jazeera ;)

My cable provider carries AL JAZEERA and I do watch it but it strikes me as to the left of CNN.

12clicks 02-23-2011 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 17936067)
you are so dumb, i am surprised you can even manage to breathe....

everything makes sense about you...

at the root, you are nothing more than a dumb republican blue collar worker...

you are mad at the world because you are a dinosaur, an ignorant oaf who got lucky and made a few dollars when adult was easy..

you are on a downward spiral and no matter how hard you try to act the opposite, everyone who has been around for awhile sees through your bullshit...

keep trying to convince yourself that you are relevant...

cross selling is a top notch way to make money... :thumbsup

hahahaha. please, bottom rung chump.
trash like yourself have been saying this for 12yrs.
Its wishful thinking.
I'm smarter than you. Thats why I make the money I make in adult and you don't.
its ok to be envious, little bird.
:1orglaugh

NaughtyVisions 02-23-2011 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 17935796)
I laugh at what you actually got. An invigorated intelligent voting block called the tea party.

Sorry, I'm stuck on "intelligent" and "tea party." Don't they strongly support both Sarah Palin and Christene O'Donnell?

IllTestYourGirls 02-23-2011 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17936231)
Looks like they do... when the people don't come back to work, they clearly have collective bargaining power and the State is clearly bargaining with them.

They have the right to stand up fight for what they believe in, just like the rest of us... it makes no difference who they work for.

So they are willing to hurt the "common good"? Sounds like hypocrites to me. And FYI that is not collective bargaining. And like any person who does not show up for their job, they should be fired.

TheDoc 02-23-2011 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 17936362)
So they are willing to hurt the "common good"? Sounds like hypocrites to me. And FYI that is not collective bargaining. And like any person who does not show up for their job, they should be fired.

Oh if we're doing this for the common good then we wouldn't want our politicians to align with the corporations this greatly benefits....you want to align with the people, that want to be taken care of for the work they've done.

Then fire 50,000 people... clearly Teachers, Firemen and Policemen don't care about the common good.

IllTestYourGirls 02-23-2011 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17936378)
Oh if we're doing this for the common good then we wouldn't want our politicians to align with the corporations this greatly benefits....you want to align with the people, that want to be taken care of for the work they've done.

Then fire 50,000 people... clearly Teachers, Firemen and Policemen don't care about the common good.

This shows how ignorant of the situation you are. You have no idea what is going on in WI.

Even FDR said that public unions should not have the right to collectively bargain. Why? Because it gives them MORE rights than the average citizen. What happens when you give a group special rights?

Well in WI guess what %the public unions have paid of the pensions that have been paid out in the last 9 or 10 years? A whopping 0.5%! Guess how much of their health care premiums have they paid in the last 9 or 10 years? A whooping 5.0%! Oh those poor bastards!

Do you think leaving the lower and middle classes with a greater tax burden (everyone pays property tax, sales tax ect) and leaving the children they are teaching with 100s of billions of unfunded liability good or bad? :Oh crap


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