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2intense 03-22-2011 08:39 AM

12. How can I ensure that I get my matching .com/.net/.org etc domain in .XXX?
Priority allocation will be given to community members who hold names that were registered before 1 February 2010 (to prevent gaming) in other ICANN approved Internet extensions.

cooldude7 03-22-2011 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow (Post 17995791)
Know what: why would the owner of a .com have a higher priority than someone holding the .net

Nobody thinks thats a bit strange?

i guess bcoz everybody thinks .com owner are the kings.

Fabien 03-22-2011 08:51 AM

Well i ain't one of the 300 000's mother fuckers that went there:321GFY:321GFY:321GFY:321GFY:321GFY:321GFY:32 1GFY

woj 03-22-2011 12:27 PM

Why does everyone hate the .xxx guy? He just wants to make a buck just like any of us here? Came up with an idea, spent millions and fought it for years? all done through legal means? There was some shadiness about adult industry supporting it, but stuff like that is par in any biz.

Just like most here, I'm not thrilled with the outcome, but he is the first person in years that brought major changes to this industry. We'll all get fucked because of it, he will become filthy rich because of it. But don't hate the playa, hate the game... it's just capitalism at work? Nothing stopping any of us from launching .sex or .adult?

I'm not trying to sound like I'm supporting him, I'm not, but where is all the hate coming from? is there more to the story?

BlackCrayon 03-22-2011 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj (Post 17997100)
Why does everyone hate the .xxx guy? He just wants to make a buck just like any of us here? Came up with an idea, spent millions and fought it for years? all done through legal means? There was some shadiness about adult industry supporting it, but stuff like that is par in any biz.

Just like most here, I'm not thrilled with the outcome, but he is the first person in years that brought major changes to this industry. We'll all get fucked because of it, he will become filthy rich because of it. But don't hate the playa, hate the game... it's just capitalism at work? Nothing stopping any of us from launching .sex or .adult?

I'm not trying to sound like I'm supporting him, I'm not, but where is all the hate coming from? is there more to the story?

its a threat that could impact all of us, like tubes, those guys are out to make a buck too but they threaten the money i make, so why would i like them?

he is exploiting children by using them as a pawns in getting .xxx through.

the idea that many will feel forced to purchase these domains to protect their existing sites at a rip off rate of 10 times that of a regular domain..if you're lucky enough to get it for reg fee because if you have a well established site, there will people going after the .xxx version. even if you have the .com it looks like you will have to fight for it among people who own other tld's.

the possiblity that xxx will be used to put adult in an 'red light ghetto' that will effectively put many people out of business.

woj 03-22-2011 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 17997122)
its a threat that could impact all of us, like tubes, those guys are out to make a buck too but they threaten the money i make, so why would i like them?

he is exploiting children by using them as a pawns in getting .xxx through.

the idea that many will feel forced to purchase these domains to protect their existing sites at a rip off rate of 10 times that of a regular domain..if you're lucky enough to get it for reg fee because if you have a well established site, there will people going after the .xxx version. even if you have the .com it looks like you will have to fight for it among people who own other tld's.

the possiblity that xxx will be used to put adult in an 'red light ghetto' that will effectively put many people out of business.

That's all true... but doesn't change the fact that what he did was 100% legal and anyone here could have done the same... while everyone was building some bullshit blogs, tube sites, etc, bitching that adult industry is hopeless, he was pushing this thing through... bringing first "innovation" to the adult industry in probably a decade... he put up a more or less a fair fight and outplayed us all...

I know it sucks, and down the road many of us will get screwed, but gotta give some credit to the guy for coming up with this brilliant plan....

BlackCrayon 03-22-2011 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj (Post 17997207)
That's all true... but doesn't change the fact that what he did was 100% legal and anyone here could have done the same... while everyone was building some bullshit blogs, tube sites, etc, bitching that adult industry is hopeless, he was pushing this thing through... bringing first "innovation" to the adult industry in probably a decade... he put up a more or less a fair fight and outplayed us all...

I know it sucks, and down the road many of us we'll get screwed, but gotta give some credit to the guy for coming up with this brilliant plan....

its hardly a brilliant plan or an innovation...its a tld..there are tons of them and new ones coming out every year making millions from suckers (mostly). if .xxx goes the way of these other failed tld's, there is nothing to worry about. if it goes the other way then yeah we are screwed and thats where the hate comes from. there are plenty of ways to make money that not only don't destroy the industry but contribute. i think its a pretty stupid thing to say that because we didnt pursue it ourselves that we should be happy about it?..

signupdamnit 03-22-2011 01:32 PM

In this case the $60 wholesale price likely means it will be near the $70 (I believe that was the amount?) that Network Solutions used to charge when they had a monopoly. I think that sort of pricing is a mistake. It will create a lot of resentment among webmasters and they will fight tooth and nail if they ever do try to make it mandatory. It would have been smarter to keep the price more realistic and nearer to the industry standard rates.

I hear there is talk of additional services being offered to registrants however when I lease a domain I am doing so solely for the domain and not any additional services. Such things could end up being controversial as well. It raises potential issues. For example I have read that $10 from each purchase will go to a panel which is partially made up of major players from the industry. It seems questionable to be forced to hand over $10 to perhaps be used in ways which I do not approve of by competitors within the industry. Perhaps in ways which may be used against me. As of now this is not much an issue since it is not compulsory, however should it become so I would think this might raise some legal questions. I really wonder if ICANN has thought over such matters in detail. What kind of oversight will there be from ICANN or other bodies to ensure that the power and funds will not be used for anti-competitive activities?

V_RocKs 03-22-2011 01:33 PM

http://united.aero/
http://unitedairlines.aero/
http://american.aero/ <-- not american airlines
http://americanairlines.aero/ same as above

Delta did buy a .aero and forwards it to their .com...

As you can see if everyone says fuck that it ain't going to fly and will be a novelty item.

Stick to your .com's... The gov't isn't going to force you into a sponsored TLD. They can't as you have free speech. It ain't going anywhere people!

V_RocKs 03-22-2011 01:35 PM

Oh... I also have a suggestion. Have your employees register 10 domains a day. If 100 adult companies with 10 or more employees each do this the minimum would be 1,000,000 domains pre-registered every 100 days.... Nothing fucks shit up like spam! Trust me on this one ;)

V_RocKs 03-22-2011 02:05 PM

OK... looking at their process I see a simple solution...

Pretend company X has 34 customer service agents that can be kept idle with a computer at their disposal... Or you just create a script and they can do this in between calls...

They signup to the registry and do so with every Email addy they own... Let's pretend that each owns 3... for 102 total accounts... Each account submits a request for 300 - 500 .com's they won't own... random lists of known domains ranging from milfhunter to analsexkittens... Then they submit 100 .net's like nubiles and thehun... keep going... ohh yeah.. this is fun...

Then they submit a crap load of randomly thrown together crap...

Now scale this up (thank you Quiet for the idea, you will live on!) and now we have 50 adult companies with this many employees throwing up these lists... 5,100 total... now throw in 15 employee companies... another 150 (2250)... and then 5's... at 250 (1250) and singles at 2000.... 10600 x 500 domain submitted total... with only 2000 domains total in the pool of submitted domains...

Now each domain just got an average of 2,650 emails from XXX fags asking them if they indeed own the domain under such and such account as submitted at ICM...

Guess what? Most of that shit goes to spam because the ISP's receiving the flood automatically figure it must be spam.

Now instead of doing .com's in the adult industry you switch that out for Fortune 500 companies... and they get this spam flood and a lot of it does go through and they complain to powerful people who pressure (and often head up) ICANN to put an end to this shit storm...

I'm out... gotta go to 4chan and get some people on board that actually give a shit as most of you won't lift a finger.

BTW, CCBILL won their contest for Redrock Builders with this same "theory"...

ArsewithClass 03-22-2011 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs (Post 17997294)
http://united.aero/
http://unitedairlines.aero/
http://american.aero/ <-- not american airlines
http://americanairlines.aero/ same as above

Delta did buy a .aero and forwards it to their .com...

As you can see if everyone says fuck that it ain't going to fly and will be a novelty item.

Stick to your .com's... The gov't isn't going to force you into a sponsored TLD. They can't as you have free speech. It ain't going anywhere people!

I think you have a great valid point here V. How much is it to purchase your own dot?

Allison 03-22-2011 04:33 PM

Whatever happened to Dot Travel?
http://www.hotelinternethelp.com/onl...-to-dot-travel

I'll predict that in 5 years, we'll see a GFY thread title "Whatever happened to .XXX?" with an oddly similar story.

Even if not, I don't invest in fear. Just like any processor that hits me up, I make them prove they are going to make me more money with stats and references. We're in a fortunate position because we have trademarks and we have built on brands rather then generic words and we have a strong legal team. So even if in 5 years the story is different and .XXX proves benefits over a .COM we have the flexibility to register then.

alias 03-22-2011 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs (Post 17997386)
OK... looking at their process I see a simple solution...

Pretend company X has 34 customer service agents that can be kept idle with a computer at their disposal... Or you just create a script and they can do this in between calls...

They signup to the registry and do so with every Email addy they own... Let's pretend that each owns 3... for 102 total accounts... Each account submits a request for 300 - 500 .com's they won't own... random lists of known domains ranging from milfhunter to analsexkittens... Then they submit 100 .net's like nubiles and thehun... keep going... ohh yeah.. this is fun...

Then they submit a crap load of randomly thrown together crap...

Now scale this up (thank you Quiet for the idea, you will live on!) and now we have 50 adult companies with this many employees throwing up these lists... 5,100 total... now throw in 15 employee companies... another 150 (2250)... and then 5's... at 250 (1250) and singles at 2000.... 10600 x 500 domain submitted total... with only 2000 domains total in the pool of submitted domains...

Now each domain just got an average of 2,650 emails from XXX fags asking them if they indeed own the domain under such and such account as submitted at ICM...

Guess what? Most of that shit goes to spam because the ISP's receiving the flood automatically figure it must be spam.

Now instead of doing .com's in the adult industry you switch that out for Fortune 500 companies... and they get this spam flood and a lot of it does go through and they complain to powerful people who pressure (and often head up) ICANN to put an end to this shit storm...

I'm out... gotta go to 4chan and get some people on board that actually give a shit as most of you won't lift a finger.

BTW, CCBILL won their contest for Redrock Builders with this same "theory"...

Pretty awesome plan dude, hook it up.

InfoGuy 03-23-2011 01:03 AM

In all likelihood, the 300,000 pre-registration number is as phony as all the carbon copy emails that were sent to ICANN purporting to be in favor of .XXX.

If you want to submit phony .XXX pre-registrations, submit pre-registrations with contact info from a slew of religious organizations. Let the deep pocketed religious right fight .XXX for us.

femdomdestiny 03-23-2011 03:40 AM

ok
 
I don't care, as promised, I won't participate in this shit. Hopefully, most of us won't.


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