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Quentin 03-24-2011 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Kelli58 (Post 18001483)
Actually V_Rocks makes a good point. The counties banning the .xxx right now are those we don't really tend to attempt to market to in the first place. At least not the mainstream porn sites.

How many sites really target Indian or Middle Eastern traffic? I know I don't. I'm not in support of .xxx but really this isn't that big of an obstacle for the new top-level domain because it just means you got rid of a bunch of free loaders you couldn't convert anyway.

Even traffic that can't be converted has value, particularly for free sites.

If you don't agree with me on that point, that's fine; I have my reasons for believing it, and they are rooted in nearly 15 years of working with adult website traffic of varying degrees of quality. In that time, I have never found a type of traffic that I couldn't draw some manner of benefit from (yes, even bot traffic, as odd as that might sound).

Look at it this way: when listing the benefits of .XXX, the ease of blocking/filtering it is actually stated as a 'plus' by ICM Registry.

That might sound good to some people at first glance, but think about it a little further, and put that notion in the context of what the Internet itself is supposed to be, and you might conclude that it isn't such a good thing, after all.

Set aside for a moment whether easy blocking/filtering might be perceived as a benefit by parents who want to keep their kids from watching porn, or by consumers who don't approve of porn at all and will take what they can get in terms of restrictions on porn distribution, and consider that at its core, the whole point of the 'world wide web' is to provide global access to content and information.

Some of what's out there on the web is good content/information, some of it is bad content/information, some of it is downright harmful content/information, but the 'web default' has always been to provide access to, and a free exchange of, ideas, expression and information.

When a website or piece of online information or content is illegal, damaging, or otherwise problematic, it might end up being pulled down from the web, or blocked on an individual basis, but attempts to prevent such things from being accessed online in the first place have never included wholesale blocking and filtering of entire TLDs. Not even places like China, Saudi Arabia or North Korea block entire TLDs, so far as I'm aware (if I'm wrong, please do correct me on that; maybe they do block some entire country code TLDs?).

Given that, why on earth would I think of the ease of blocking an entire TLD as being among the "good" reasons to pay roughly 6x market price per domain on I register on the TLD in question?

I can't speak for anybody else, but from my perspective, coughing up more money for domains that by their very nature are likely to receive less traffic and exposure (and serve to splinter my branding at the same time, no less) is not what I'd call a sensible basis for purchase. :2 cents:

JFK 03-24-2011 09:59 AM

after all the fighting against it, could this be the chink in their armour ?:2 cents:

ruff 03-24-2011 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Hotrocket (Post 18001691)
Patience, people patience...this is just the beginning of the natural course of events that many of us predicted.
We don't have to worry about entire countries blocking the TLD, it will happen at many different levels, ISP's , universities, businesses, hotels, wifi hubs, etc.

You hit the nail right on the head. You are exactly correct, this is how it will happen.

topnotch, standup guy 03-24-2011 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18001144)
You can count on MANY Asian countries blocking .xxx. The good news is, we can't bill most of them.

The bad news is, it won't stop with Asian countries.

Bad news?

If a few countries with decent conversions choose to ban .xxx in the near future . . . that just might head off Lawley's gold rush before it happens.

What could possibly be bad about that? :thumbsup


Probably won't play out quite that neatly but hey, we can all hope.

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BFT3K 03-24-2011 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Emil (Post 18001100)
People who buy the xxx-domains are fucking retards.
It will be so easy to block this shit, you're putting yourself inside a trap.

:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup

Relentless 03-24-2011 10:29 AM

The budget needed to persuade India to allow .xxx will be infinitely more than the amount needed to persuade ICANN. Countries blocking the entire TLD is also a good sign of the way search engines are likely to handle .xxx domains. It would not shock me at all if Google and others eventually decide to default searches without .xxx results and require users to turn them 'on' in order to see them at all. :2 cents:

AzteK 03-24-2011 10:34 AM

You make it sound like a bad thing. Fuck traffic from India, China or anything a like.

Relentless 03-24-2011 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by AzteK (Post 18001859)
You make it sound like a bad thing. Fuck traffic from India, China or anything a like.

Please forward your Indian traffic to my sites then :pimp

magicmike 03-24-2011 10:38 AM

good news.

JFK 03-24-2011 10:53 AM

Fitty .xxx blocks:thumbsup

Mefo 03-24-2011 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hotrocket (Post 18001691)
Patience, people patience...this is just the beginning of the natural course of events that many of us predicted.
We don't have to worry about entire countries blocking the TLD, it will happen at many different levels, ISP's , universities, businesses, hotels, wifi hubs, etc.

Indeed, this will probably have a big influence as well..... universities, hotels etc who hold a nice market share.

alias 03-24-2011 10:57 AM

.lol :banana

vicki 03-24-2011 11:11 AM

Its going to be an interesting ride, thats for sure

sobaka 03-24-2011 11:27 AM

Those are good points. Imagine a business or university or hotel not blocking .xxx, they would look like clueless neanderthals. I can totally see ISPs and search engines blocking .xxx by default also and requiring individual opt-ins to see it. And every country that is officially against porn or wants to look like it is fighting porn will block it for sure. .Xxx may crash before it is even released.

Kelli58 03-24-2011 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 18001837)
The budget needed to persuade India to allow .xxx will be infinitely more than the amount needed to persuade ICANN. Countries blocking the entire TLD is also a good sign of the way search engines are likely to handle .xxx domains. It would not shock me at all if Google and others eventually decide to default searches without .xxx results and require users to turn them 'on' in order to see them at all. :2 cents:

This is actually a very very good point and one of probably the most relevant to mainstream porners. I don't care about traffic from China or India but I damn sure care about my US traffic from Google and you are right. How easy would it be for Google to do this? THAT is what scares me.

Davy 03-24-2011 01:08 PM

The US will not block .XXX? Are you insane? It's the main market of that TLD.

Shoplifter 03-24-2011 01:11 PM

The only reason .xxx has been allowed to pass is BECAUSE of the ability to block it.

Otherwise it's completely ridiculous as there is no other point to it at all.

Far-L 03-24-2011 01:24 PM

Homegrown Video believes Indians enjoy sex too
 
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Originally Posted by PR_Dave (Post 18001704)
India is a huge potential market for porn. I was just there and they are porn hungry and millions of Indians can afford memberships etc.

Thank you. Glad to see someone here still thinks like a business person.


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