It seems likely that there is some issues with his birth certificate given all the obfuscations on the issue and the failure to produce the document...... but at the end of the day what difference does it make? The concern with Obama should be his gross incompetence, hard left ideology and corruption. People need to start focusing on the real issues instead of falling for obvious distractions.

Honestly NO. It wasn't in the job description, LOL
or
not my job, or everyone assumes someone else did.

What gets me is WHY doesn't Obama just show the Long form?
Why did he pay so much to have everything sealed? ( I am guessing this is true) but if not just Produce a copy of the LONG form, and stop all this crap once and for all.

What the OP is saying is the short form can be changed to say whatever you want it to, then you can have court records sealed.

I know this for a fact, since my short forms shows my step mom as my Birth mom and not who gave birth to me.

When I went to get my sons SS number they asked me for my moms maiden name on my birth cert, I gave them the one on the short form, since that is all I mostly knew. WRONG answer, I looked stupid because they were asking me for my REAL not short form answer.

Anyway, to me the short form means SHIT.

Do I think someone like Hillary checked, YEP.
Either way, what is done is done for now, just wish Obama would end this crap, and not keep sealing stuff. So much for transparency.

All the answers are available to anyone who actually wants to read them.

http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/obama.html


:2 cents:

You are kinda cute but VERY retarded :thumbsup

Listen you dumb cunt WTF is your issue? Really I'm asking. Is you BEST reasoning for John McCain being President is that Obama isn't an American? Oh by the way McCain was born in PANAMA. OH you do realize if Obama had to resign because he wasn't an American then Joe Biden becomes president not McCain. Do you really want that?

Again it all depends on how you read it.

"Based upon that review, the DOH has determined that the information listed below constitutes all of the publicly available information related to requests for vital statistics records pertaining to President Barack Hussein Obama II"

It says all PUBLICLY AVAILBLE INFO, again my Public info shows not my Blood mom, but my Birth mom.

"State law prohibits the DOH for disclosing any information about a Hawaii vital record unless the requestor has a direct and tangible interest in the record. This includes verification of vital records and all the information contained in a record. Vital records disclosure laws protect all birth, death, marriage and divorce records held by the department and all amendments, changes, supporting records, and requests related to vital records"

(all amendments, changes, supporting records)

Again my Certificate of Live Birth was changed to show my step mom.

Am I a birther? almost NO,
Just show your LONG form for crying out load.

I do admit the News article is fairly convincing.

I don't have the long form. Am I not an American? Neither do my parents.

Besides the fact that if Barack's mother did have him in Kenya one would think someone would have remembered a very white and very pregant woman flying with a very black man literally halfway around the world from Hawaii to Kenya. It was 1961 after all. And you'd think someone would certainly have remembered a white woman with a newborn mixed baby and a balck man on the flight on the way back to Hawaii. Remember this is 1961. Not to mention that such a trip would have required a passport so there would be some documentation somewhere of Obama's mom making this trip. Not to mention that it would have be advised that a pregant woman about to give birth flying into a backwards and disease infested country would not be a good idea.

I think you meant Roger or "Raj".

yeah whatever. they all look the same to me. :winkwink:

Obama is a cyborg. Seriously, no kidding! Prove I'm wrong...

http://lahistoriadeldia.files.wordpr...ack-obama2.jpg

Yes !!!!!!


BBB



( Bring Back Bush )


:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Obama is an American. If he wasn't, he would never have been elected. While I don't agree with his political stances on many issues, I say, "Get Over It."

Now let's move on to more important issues.

It all depends on how thick a persons head is actually. :1orglaugh

You think you have "found something" and can't accept the fact of being wrong.

I don't understand why people want to make an ass out of themselves about
this. You look like a fool to 99% of the world.

Why would the state of Hawaii, the FBI, CIA, NSA, ICE and Kenya join in a conspiracy to elect Obama? HUH? HUH?

Damn people are thick.

:1orglaugh

If the hospital produced a video of Obama actually coming out of the pussy, you would still say the birth was fake. :1orglaugh

He's a fucking secret cyborg dude!

What issue can possibly be more important than that?!

I want to see the papers that prove he is from planet Earth!

I want DNA samples proving he is a humanoid!

My thoughts exactly. :thumbsup

And how do you know this? Because you and everyone else saw his birth certificate before you voted on him? I didn't. If I had known then what I know now (or listened to the warnings) I wouldn't have voted for him. In fact it only took a matter of weeks before I saw that all of those warnings I ignored were actually true. How? For starters all I had to do was look at who he was filling up his cabinet with.

Or do you just assume that he was vetted? Really? You actually think these people give a shit about what George Bush calls "just a goddamned piece of paper"???

Why not show the LONG form, nothing Speical on theat should not be seen, or is there?

No stupid is a President who cant produce a simple thing.

Go read all my posts, on what I believe, and do NOT lump me in with the 100% Birthers.

Wait I will make it simple with 2 things,
1. I question why not put something so simple to REST.
2. I have my Cert of Live Birth, that is NOT accurate, so I KNOW what can be done with a cert of live birth.

Oh one simple other thing, I Honestly believe if a person is going to do the best they can for the USA then they can be president no matter where they were born, skin color, religion or anything else.

Have a good day!

That is Right you don't have it, but YOU can get it and show it....

Ohhhh, you're referring to the same FBI, CIA, NSA national security team that allowed Osama bin Laden and his terrorist associates to escape in 2001 under the Clinton administration ?

Or

Are you referring to the same FBI, CIA, NSA geniuses who swore up and down that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction ?

Or perhaps you're referring to Colin Powell presenting a case against Iraq to the UN Security Council while CIA Director George Tenet was sitting right behind him.
You're referring to those intellegent road scholars ? or just the perfect, never make a mistake FBI, CIA, NSA national security team ?

You certainly are, not to mention gullible, naive, uninformed and a bag of hot air.

nope I can't sorry.

Do you believe in "innocent until proven guilty"?

If so, then Obama is a citizen until you can prove he is not.

Show fucking proof.

I've seen some idiots post 2 clearly proven fake birth certificates from Kenya when
they were proven to be copies of a online birth certificate from a guy in Australia.

:1orglaugh


Prove he's not or STFU.

Post a airline flight manifest showing his mom flew to Kenya to give birth. :1orglaugh

someone watches Bill Maher... Me Too! :thumbsup

You got it.

it's just a last resort. trying to make people doubt who he really is. john mccain had the same issue.

If Sarah Palin agrees with Trump that's good enough for me!

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/sarah...ry?id=13342475

Ok you're right. He is not black, and he was not born in the U.S. Now what are you going to do about that?

hey shit for brains! try to stay focused!

where is the proof obama isn't a US citizen ?

Yeah, and prove he isn't a cyborg while you're at it!

I have seen no proof whatsoever, that convinces me beyond a shadow of a doubt, that the POTUS was born on this planet.

Obama is obviously from outer space. It's a fucking fact!

One thing for sure, if the Republicans want to win in 2012 they'll need to focus on something other than this birther nonsense. Donald Trump? Sarah Palin? Ohh, maybe a Romney/Beck ticket.

obama is a right winger. Everything he has done, the right has also done before. He's done nothing that bush didn't do, and bush before him, and reagan before him.

name something he has done that the right didn't do before him. oh right, there was that bill to regulate the credit card industry. no republican ever did anything like that. my bad.

I'd include clinton in that list of right wingers, but at least clinton had the balls to both tax AND borrow to cover deferred taxes. otherwise, clinton was also a right winger.

obama is grossly incompetent and corrupt, true.

another characteristic he shares with reagan, bush, clinton, and bush.

I realize the birthers are the kind of inward looking conservative that doesn't believe there's a world outside US borders, but I can't help imagining the hilarious image of the US AFTER 4 years of Presidency going "Ooops! We let an immigrant in as president!" "Sorry about that!" "Forget anything that black guy said, he was a fake!". You'd be the laughing stock of the world.

Hilarious.

Interesting thread...I was just looking at a few troll responses. :1orglaugh
Seems like there are still mixed reviews.

Surrounding this controversy, Obama needs, and should display proof of his citizenship.
I have instant access to my birth certificate.. shame the leader of the free world doesn't.

Will be somewhat difficult now since Obama's prior two million dollar legal team sealed a majority of those documents. The people of the United States wonder why Barack Hussein Obama would chose to do seal his once public records.

Very, very suspicious behavior for a public figure. Sorry to say but I feel this subject will be used as a tool and cost Obama his presidency in 2012.

Furthermore, I thought it was funny reading you state with confidence that the FBI, CIA and NSA are credible sources of truthful information and investigation. :1orglaugh

Quite entertaining to say the least.

This link was posted before. I'm going to post it again since it didn't sink in the first time.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama...ertificate.asp

and again

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama...ertificate.asp

one more time

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama...ertificate.asp

The most revealing thing about this whole debate is that it shows who is educated and who is not. The fact is that, even if Barack Obama were born in Kenya, he would STILL be a US citizen.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birthri..._United_States

Married Citizens - meaning one of the couple are a US citizen.
Unmarried Citizen - if a persons mother has a child by a non-US citizen father

Hi troll,

Love the third party website. Plz return with a valid .gov extension.

Has that sunken in?
You may continue to troll. :1orglaugh

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/8/...5----000-.html

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/8/...9----000-.html

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/8/...1----000-.html

Whats wrong with Donald Trump ?

Actually someone who knows more than just being able to give speeches and being a politician. Given the shit you guys are in, might be handy having someone who knows how to make money ;)

What's with all of the trolls pretending to be girls? That's just pathetic.

(2) A child born out of wedlock in a foreign country to an American citizen mother and an alien father or U.S. Citizen father gains U.S. citizenship at birth if the mother had been physically present in the United States for a continuous period of 1 year prior to the child's birth. (See 8 U.S.C. 1409(c).) The child will gain the citizenship of the father only if the laws of the nation of which the father is a citizen so provide.


http://law.justia.com/cfr/title32/32...30.0.16.5.html

Now I guess we're back to where was he born???, smart guy.. You can't be two places at once.