fuck those god damn barbarians and their shitty fucking religion

we have a face for a reason. they deny themselves from being social. a woman has feature a man wants to see its not always lust.

I think EVERY religion is retarded, so I am not picking on this one in particular.

Freedom is not a one way street, someone always pays.. Think about it.

You are picking on one in particular. The point is all religions have the same rights, as all people have the same rights, as all skin colors have the same rights, as all sexes have the same rights, etc etc etc... Get it, we all have the same rights.

I don't like any religion, I think they're all morons. But just because I do not like them, doesn't mean I want to take away rights or force them to act a certain way. Because my freedom and the freedom of the people in this country is more important to me than silencing some asshole I don't like. I think he should still be allowed to be his asshole self, because I believe in freedom over oppression.

What if I start a religion that believes it's okay to eat your neighbors pets?

Hey, it's religious freedom dude! You gotta roll with it, right?

No... I just fucking explained this. Jesus, how do you not understand? It's not rocket science.

My hat looks okay.

http://i.pbase.com/u23/automat42/upl...oklynFerry.jpg

Does mine look like a chocolate cake?

Well, at least we can be identified...

There's no way you're 46.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-SlAvgLbmkL...onkey_pope.jpg

Hey look at me! I'm the fucking Monkey Pope!

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

The greater good? The idea of things like free speech and freedom of religion is that they protect the minority, not the majority. The majority can protect themselves - the constitution protects the others.

Being Muslim should be banned

The United States of America is supposed to be better than that.

As a woman, I am disgusted by men who think they can legislate what women need. Women should get to make their own choices. Women in the USA, who choose to dress a certain way, have a choice. That said, I can at least respect that misguided male attitude as coming from a logical place. The people who are scaredy-cat about all the big bad Muslim chick bank robbers have no connection with anything which has ever happened.

The majority would not suffer terribly much, if all smut-mongers were rounded up, but I assume most people posting here would prefer that did not happen.

it is in china

you have a point. it shouldnt be a criminal offense where one does time, merely a hefty ticket sorta thing.

i agree that if someone WANTS TO, sure.
I'd love to know the percentage of women worldwide who would wear the fucker if women ran the religion.

Now that even men are dressing up in the full body face covering burka with the sole intention of carrying out suicide bombings, it should be banned for security sake. Same reason you can't wear a helmet into a bank ... though the consequences are often more dire.

yes they should ban it in the USA, think about it, if a women goes to a Muslim county they have to wear it.

But on the other side it can back fire, they can make that anther excuse to attack USA.

Right now its bad timing to do it, maybe in 15- 20 years..

only 65.06% said Yes

what's wrong with GFY these days :1orglaugh

I can't believe this is even a question in the US. As long as the wearer complies with reasonable requests to show their face when necessary for security, or when everyone else has to (eg, my bank won't let you wear a hat or sunglasses inside), then they should be able to walk down the street and otherwise go about their business wearing one.

To me, this is profiling and religious persecution. No one would be saying a thing if I walked down the street with my Under Armor Cold Gear Face Mask on.

Speaking of sheets. If you put on a KKK hood and drove your car around the city, I'd bet $100 you would eventually be pulled over by the police. They would find a reason why, and if you refused to remove that mask, they would find another reason to make a problem for you. Could be something as simple as stating reckless driving, as you are unable to properly see while driving.

Immature shits. :1orglaugh It's called experience. Have you ever left your own country? Ever been to the Middle East or an all Mulsim country? I'm guessing no.

I've been dealing with these extreme Muslim fucks for 15 years abroad. You have NO idea what is going on and how they are inching their way into your system. Like Hispanics, they are taking over your country. Enjoy.

I won't call you immature, but I will call you naive.

George Carlin said it best, the only freedom you really have is to choose paper or plastic.

But if you disagree, go out in your back yard right now, assuming you own a house, and start letting off fireworks. Oh, you don't have any because they are probably illegal where you live. OK, so go in the front yard and make a big fucking bon fire. Call your buddies over, open some booze, turn on some music and kick it. Let me know how it works out.

If you don't have a yard, take off to the nearest government building wearing nothing but speedo swimming trunks. Don't even put on shoes. Just walk in and stand there in the lobby. Either you have freedom or you don't. Right? Even if that means freedom to go to the bank in your trunks and a ski mask. As stupid as it would be, that is freedom. Let me know how that works out.

Well, when going into public areas, they should. Banks, police stations, schools, gov buildings. There is no need for them INSIDE.

You know the old signs, NO SHIRT, NO SHOES, NO SERVICE? Add NO SKI MASK and NO BURKA. It will happen sooner or later.

WHAT!?!? You are taking away my rights by saying I have to wear shoes in your building! That is fucked up! FREEDOM!!!! Now you demand I wear a shirt!?!?! FUCK YOU, I AM FREE!!! I AM AMERICAN! GET 'ER DONE!

That was hypothetical to show just one reason why a person needs to show their face.

Reading is difficult, I know.

It's happening all over the world. You give Muslims an inch, they want a mile and want a holy war if you don't give it to them. Good for France and any nation that follows.

I don't care what flag you fly or what imaginary man you believe in, but everyone plays by the same rules. Period.

If some repressed woman wants to wear her burka around and cover her face, that is fine. But, take it off when you drive and when you enter a public or government building. You don't get to wear it when you take a photo for your license or passport. You must remove it when any law enforcement asks you to. That is a fair solution, but it's not good enough for them.

Meanwhile, their good Muslim husbands husbands were flip flops, shorts and tank-tops. :1orglaugh Equality! :thumbsup

Or even our wanna-be government. I am far, far more threatened by that nutcase Sarah Palin than I am by a chick who wants to walk around draped in fabric.

I'm surprised anyone is dumb enough (yes even by GFY standards) to respond to Moe's retarded pro Muslim rhetoric.

Oh, and some of you can stop with the "high moral ground" nonsense. How naive do you have to be to believe something like that can exist without collateral damage?

This makes you legally insane and if you're threatened by Palin, I can't imagine how you feel about having someone incompetent running this country and someone like Pelosi having ANY authority to make decisions.

While I was only giving a hypothetical example, it seems it really happens. But more so to rob the bank. But because they are allowed to walk into a bank wearing this, it opens things right up for this very issue.

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Fifth Muslim-disguised bank robbery in six months


A bank robbery Thursday in which a man used a Muslim woman?s religious garment as a disguise is not the first such robbery police have seen.


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Muslim disguise in bank robbery not a first, police say

A bank robbery Thursday in which a man used a Muslim woman's religious garment as a disguise is not the first such robbery police have seen.

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Jail for robbers who disguised themselves in Muslim dress

Two men who disguised themselves in clothing traditionally worn by Muslim women and robbed security guards carrying cash to and from banks were jailed for a total of more than seven years yesterday.

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Men in Muslim woman's garb robs bank

Two armed men disguised as Muslim women in burqas held up a bank in Sarajevo and got away with some $40000

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Google is full of these. Had no idea.

Don't let them into the country in the first place. Once they're citizens they have to be treated like everybody else.

So many of them are our enemies, our men and women of the armed forces are risking their lives wading through the bullshit these idiots live their lives by. I don't think it's unfair to block them all from entering the country. We're at war with how many different strains of Islam from how many different countries? Why should we take the risk that even one of the 'good ones' might turn out to be a terrorist?

Or a better idea - let's make all retarded religious garb from the Middle Ages prohibited by law. Veils, burquas, Turbans, that Orthodox Jewish crap, yamulkies - all of it so nobody gets their feelings hurt. Replace all that shit with baseball caps, they can put an Islamic crescent moon and star logo or Jewish star on the front of the cap and wear a t-shirt or hoodie with Kiss Me I'm Muslim on it.

Nobody ever has a problem with the Amish - why, because they behave themselves and cause nobody any problems and make nice blankets and fruit preserves. If Muslims would behave like the Amish nobody would have a bad thing to say about them.

That is the issue. They get a pass in most places.

Just walking around, I could care less. I see it no different than hat or glasses. It's when they NEED to take it off and they think they shouldn't have to, that's an issue.

They want special treatment. That's where it rubs me the wrong way.

http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2006...curity-threats

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_...on_Beshenivsky - A UK WPC killed by a griminal gang, one of the murderers is believed to have escaped the country by dressing in a burqa and pretending to be female.

You're probably right.

A little off topic, we have a lot of muslims sex tourists coming... POURING into Thailand. They go to their own bars, for Arabs, and drink, get shit faced, fuck whores, and fuck ladyboys. They literally dance on the tables, holding hands with each other (men with men) until the sun is up and the heat starts. It's madness. You're not allowed to film or take a photo anywhere near some of these places or you get pounced on by security.

When the morning comes, you can hear the Muslim temple and that god damn prayer they blast over the loudspeaker, but the temples are mostly empty. All the guys are raging in the bars.

Good muslim men. :2 cents:

These are the same guys who make their women wear those stupid fucking things.

They also beat a lot of the girls here and try to force them into Islam. Good stuff.

I don't think they should get special treatment in the sense of not having to reveal at all. I do think that it should be a woman that they reveal to. But in my mind, there is a big difference between saying that we are banning something altogether vs we are requiring mandatory revealing in security-sensitive situations.

Don't let them into the country in the first place. Once they're citizens they have to be treated like everybody else.

So many of them are our enemies, our men and women of the armed forces are risking their lives wading through the bullshit these idiots live their lives by. I don't think it's unfair to block them all from entering the country. We're at war with how many different strains of Islam from how many different countries? Why should we take the risk that even one of the 'good ones' might turn out to be a terrorist?

Or a better idea - let's make all retarded religious garb from the Middle Ages prohibited by law. Veils, burquas, Turbans, that Orthodox Jewish crap, yamulkies - all of it so nobody gets their feelings hurt. Replace all that shit with baseball caps, they can put an Islamic crescent moon and star logo or Jewish star on the front of the cap and wear a t-shirt or hoodie with Kiss Me I'm Muslim on it.

Nobody ever has a problem with the Amish - why, because they behave themselves and cause nobody any problems and make nice blankets and fruit preserves. If Muslims would behave like the Amish nobody would have a bad thing to say about them.

According to their religion, it has to be.

If they have to sit and wait around and waste their time while they wait for a female police officer to show up, fuck 'em, let them wait.

You ever see one of them in the gym? You can't help laugh.

Fuck upskirts...

New niche is up burkas! :thumbsup

So, uhm, do you have an example of anything which has been any kind of actual non-hypothetical issue i.e. something which is actually enough of a problem that the USA needs legislation on it so badly that the Constitution is irrelevant?

AmeliaG if your husband ordered you to wear that mask stuff. would you sport that in public and when company comes over? take a trip to iran and stay a few weeks :)

ah... The US is not France, there's that pesky 1st amendment that protects personal expression

I was not raised that way, so it is not my culture. As an American woman, of course I disagree with much of how Iran does things.

The debate here is whether American women should have the government tell them what they may wear. I am assuming you do not believe a woman's husband should tell her what to wear, so how can you think it is okay for her government to do the same?

quoted for truth!

I don't see what is so hard about this.
There are already many exceptions to first amendment rights - eg obscenity, bomb scares, shouting fire in a crowded theatre.
No-one can just do what they want if it harms other people.

The whole point of the ban is fight extremism and protect women.
Basically, oppression trumps fashion choice.

So it's not oppression to force someone NOT to wear something?