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lazycash 04-27-2011 11:54 AM

I've never really formulated an opinion either way on this, but I still don't understand why Obama wasn't forced to produce this birth certificate before he was elected? I just had to provide a birth certificate and immunization record in order to register my daughter for kindergarten, shouldn't we at least expect this as a prerequisite for the most powerful position in America?

The fact that he's producing one now after all of the scrutiny he's had to endure while in office, sure makes one wonder why there wasn't a little more effort put forth to get this out earlier.

JFK 04-27-2011 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazycash (Post 18091361)
I've never really formulated an opinion either way on this, but I still don't understand why Obama wasn't forced to produce this birth certificate before he was elected? I just had to provide a birth certificate and immunization record in order to register my daughter for kindergarten, shouldn't we at least expect this as a prerequisite for the most powerful position in America?

The fact that he's producing one now after all of the scrutiny he's had to endure while in office, sure makes one wonder why there wasn't a little more effort put forth to get this out earlier.

it takes a while to make a good fake:upsidedow

blackmonsters 04-27-2011 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazycash (Post 18091361)
I've never really formulated an opinion either way on this, but I still don't understand why Obama wasn't forced to produce this birth certificate before he was elected? I just had to provide a birth certificate and immunization record in order to register my daughter for kindergarten, shouldn't we at least expect this as a prerequisite for the most powerful position in America?

The fact that he's producing one now after all of the scrutiny he's had to endure while in office, sure makes one wonder why there wasn't a little more effort put forth to get this out earlier.

Obama was required and did produce a valid birth certificate as given by the state of
Hawaii.


That fact that some people don't trust the state of Hawaii was not in Obama's control.

You bought into bullshit and now your are trying to blame Obama for letting you buy it.

:1orglaugh

Vendzilla 04-27-2011 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 18091336)
I love how you just made that up.

:1orglaugh

actually he didn't, 96% of black voters voted for Obama

Sarah_Jayne 04-27-2011 12:34 PM

I can't wait to hear that he has to prove he isn't a robot now.

alessergod 04-27-2011 12:37 PM

Not to worry The Douchebag, errr, The Donald will wow us all and show his tax returns and all his friends that he has told us he gets along great with, ie "the blacks", will be astounded and say so long Obama, hellooo Trumpster.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 04-27-2011 12:53 PM

So Let's See Trump's Tax Returns Now
 
http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lk...xj7vo1_500.jpg

Quote:

Crusading Obama hater and leading (at least according to the polls) 2012 Republican candidate Donald Trump is apparently sorta paying attention to calls for him to disclose his net worth, because he announced he would "maybe" reveal his tax returns on Good Morning, America?except there's a catch: He'll only do it if President Obama will release his birth certificate.

The Donald told George Stephanopoulos, "Maybe I?m going to do the tax returns when Obama does his birth certificate?I?d love to give my tax returns. I may tie my tax returns into Obama?s birth certificate."

Stephopoulos pointed out, "You say it?s all about the messenger. A lot of Republicans think you?re a flawed messenger for the party. Karl Rove, again over the weekend, saying you?re a joke candidate, if you continue to raise questions about President Obama?s citizenship," But Trump said, "There?s a real question about the birth certificate. There?s a real question about the-- his own-- his own citizenship."

And then Stephanopoulos tried to explain that a certificate of live birth is recognized by the State Department (too bad half of the Iowa GOP doesn't recognize it), with Trump insisting, "It?s a much different instrument." And when asked about the investigation in Hawaii, Trump said, "That?s none of your business right now. We?re going to see what happens."
Can hardly wait to see the Donald's tax returns... :1orglaugh

ADG

Gouge 04-27-2011 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 18091508)
http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lk...xj7vo1_500.jpg



Can hardly wait to see the Donald's tax returns... :1orglaugh

ADG

I agree, then the Trump Taxers will shut up about Trump not paying taxes since 1992.

merina0803 04-27-2011 01:06 PM

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/04/27/trump_to_obama_now_release_your_college_records.ht ml

Vendzilla 04-27-2011 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gouge (Post 18091526)
I agree, then the Trump Taxers will shut up about Trump not paying taxes since 1992.

Obama can raise his taxes and make everyone feel like he did something, but the way the taxes are regulated, he still won't pay anything

onedree 04-27-2011 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 18091382)
Obama was required and did produce a valid birth certificate [COLOR="Yellow"]as given by the state of
Hawaii.

Ummm like why did it take him so long to produce it to the American tax paying people?

Vendzilla 04-27-2011 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onedree (Post 18091556)
Ummm like why did it take him so long to produce it to the American tax paying people?

good forgery take time? LMAO <sarcasm>

Bama 04-27-2011 01:19 PM

I couldn't help but notice that there is no raised state seal anywhere on that document that would still be visible even if scanned - cropped on purpose perhaps?

That thing looks like it was printed on the back of someone's paycheck.

Kiopa_Matt 04-27-2011 01:23 PM

Thank fuck there's no such thing as, "Certificate of Religion", because then we'd have to listen to everyone go off about how Obama is secretly a Muslim.

Frank21 04-27-2011 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Babaganoosh (Post 18090470)
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...pt=T1&iref=BN1

That should shut some of the braindead birther's mouths...for a while.

I wonder how long it will take before they start claiming it's a forgery?

How can it possibly be real if the real one was released 2 years ago already?

bushwacker 04-27-2011 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank21 (Post 18091597)
How can it possibly be real if the real one was released 2 years ago already?


:eek7:eek7

Vendzilla 04-27-2011 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank21 (Post 18091597)
How can it possibly be real if the real one was released 2 years ago already?

thats because this is the official real one, there's a difference, I think? LMAO

alessergod 04-27-2011 01:52 PM

Now The Donlad has opened a can of worms. Now he wants to see Obama's college records. Wonder if Queen Sarah is thinking "oh shit"

Frank21 04-27-2011 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 18091638)
thats because this is the official real one, there's a difference, I think? LMAO

So the last real official one was not real after all but this one is supposed to be real?

Vendzilla 04-27-2011 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank21 (Post 18091686)
So the last real official one was not real after all but this one is supposed to be real?

um sure, ok, that's it
I don't understand what they are doing, all I know is that this one is a copy with signatures on it with no stamp as I can see.

According to the law, once you become president, your past is top secret, no one claims his mother was not a US citizen, so waste time on this?

Frank21 04-27-2011 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 18091702)
um sure, ok, that's it
I don't understand what they are doing, all I know is that this one is a copy with signatures on it with no stamp as I can see.

According to the law, once you become president, your past is top secret, no one claims his mother was not a US citizen, so waste time on this?

Well...
We know he was a citizen in Indonesia with the legal name of Suharto also we know you could only go to school in Indonesia those years if you were legal Indonesian and thus we know he gave up his USA citizen to become Indonesian citizen where he was adopted.
Also we know that he had a third name when he was teaching in Kenya.

Seems like there is plenty of proof that obama is not a united states citizen and thus all the laws he is making are illegal.


Did you know his mom and his dad where working for the cia yet?

Vendzilla 04-27-2011 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank21 (Post 18091723)
Well...
We know he was a citizen in Indonesia with the legal name of Suharto also we know you could only go to school in Indonesia those years if you were legal Indonesian and thus we know he gave up his USA citizen to become Indonesian citizen where he was adopted.
Also we know that he had a third name when he was teaching in Kenya.

Seems like there is plenty of proof that Obama is not a united states citizen and thus all the laws he is making are illegal.


Did you know his mom and his dad where working for the cia yet?

Yeah there is a lot of theories out there, I look at it this way, they did the same thing to Clinton and he blew a fuse and attacked Iraq on the day they voted to impeach him

StickyGreen 04-27-2011 02:31 PM

This shit is still doing exactly what it was meant to do: keep you all distracted from things that actually matter.

GatorB 04-27-2011 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 18090516)
Was it found behind a file cabinet in the basement?

If it was found up your ass you'd know where it was found.

GatorB 04-27-2011 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiopa_Matt (Post 18091576)
Thank fuck there's no such thing as, "Certificate of Religion", because then we'd have to listen to everyone go off about how Obama is secretly a Muslim.

Is he one of those atheist muslims Newt was warning us about?

czarina 04-27-2011 02:37 PM

why did it take them sooooooooooooooo long?

TheDoc 04-27-2011 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by czarina (Post 18091788)
why did it take them sooooooooooooooo long?

It didn't... His birth cert has been out for I don't know how long... this is the long form that no other President has ever needed to show, but he was nice enough to show it.

GatorB 04-27-2011 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 18091429)
actually he didn't, 96% of black voters voted for Obama

90% of black voters voted for Gore and Kerry.

GatorB 04-27-2011 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 18091795)
It didn't... His birth cert has been out for I don't know how long... this is the long form that no other President has ever needed to show, but he was nice enough to show it.

Where is McCain long form? Did they have long form birth certifdicates in PANAMA where he was born.

StickyGreen 04-27-2011 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 18091802)
90% of black voters voted for Gore and Kerry.

Yes, because for some reason poor people actually believe that democrats give a fuck about them. lol

StickyGreen 04-27-2011 02:52 PM



lmao

Vendzilla 04-27-2011 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StickyGreen (Post 18091822)
Yes, because for some reason poor people actually believe that democrats give a fuck about them. lol

people that don't pay attention

Vendzilla 04-27-2011 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 18091795)
It didn't... His birth cert has been out for I don't know how long... this is the long form that no other President has ever needed to show, but he was nice enough to show it.

Long form? Says copy right on it!

blackmonsters 04-27-2011 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onedree (Post 18091556)
Ummm like why did it take him so long to produce it to the American tax paying people?

Ummm like he did release his official Hawaii birth certificate to the tax
paying people before he took office.

http://msgboard.snopes.com/politics/graphics/birth.jpg

Right click that image on that link and look at the image info.

It says "Modified: Saturday, November 15, 2008 3:19:50 PM"


That fact that you don't accept his official Hawaii birth certificate means jack shit.
Who da fuck are you?

:helpme

TheDoc 04-27-2011 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 18091847)
Long form? Says copy right on it!

Yeah, it's a copy of the long form... none of us have our org birth cert, they're all copies.

blackmonsters 04-27-2011 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StickyGreen (Post 18091838)


lmao

If other people don't feel this way then why are people complaining to Obama about
unemployment, gas prices and the mortgage/foreclosure crisis?

Huh? Huh? huh? huh?

Huh? Huh? huh? huh?


Huh? Huh? huh? huh?


Huh? Huh? huh? huh?


Huh? Huh? huh? huh?



:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

blackmonsters 04-27-2011 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 18091875)
Yeah, it's a copy of the long form... none of us have our org birth cert, they're all copies.

But can't Obama provide a piece of the original placenta?

Come on, you know he saved it.

:1orglaugh

Vendzilla 04-27-2011 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 18091875)
Yeah, it's a copy of the long form... none of us have our org birth cert, they're all copies.

I have mine from the hospital with my feet prints on it and I'm older that Barry. It's no copy!

I have a copy of the official one the state uses

blackmonsters 04-27-2011 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 18091890)
I have mine from the hospital with my feet prints on it and I'm older that Barry. It's no copy!

I have a copy of the official one the state uses

Of course you have your's; because there was no place to store it since you were
born here :

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_b7GffuYXN-...rHome_0000.jpg

TheDoc 04-27-2011 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 18091890)
I have mine from the hospital with my feet prints on it and I'm older that Barry. It's no copy!

I have a copy of the official one the state uses

It is a copy, even if it doesn't look like it... otherwise you couldn't request a copy of your original, and they couldn't stamp it and cert that it's real without the real one to copy.

Edit: You can request a new cert (with proof of course) from the local Courthouse, Hospital or State if they can not find the record. One of the 3 appear to be the keepers of certs for those of us born normally.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 04-27-2011 03:27 PM

The Birther's still refuse to believe:

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/271205/OBA...ERTIFICATE.jpg

http://whitenoiseinsanity.com/wp-con...onaldtrump.jpg

Funny to watch the new round of spinning and backpedaling by the rightwing birther nutjobs... :1orglaugh

ADG

Frank21 04-27-2011 03:32 PM

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Bq5v8T4edi...s1600/610x.jpg

http://remixxworld.blogspot.com/2009...ransiskus.html


Obama wanted to become president of Indonesia.... Now tell me how that even is possible if he were NOT an Indonesian citizen?

Quote:

Iis Darmawan, 63, Obama's kindergarten teacher, remembers him as an exceptionally tall and curly haired child who quickly picked up the local language and had sharp math skills. "He wrote an essay titled, 'I Want To Become President,'" the teacher said.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16813267/

fitzmulti 04-27-2011 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 18090477)
Obvious forgery.

Hope not.
It'd be a shame if he was not 2257 compliant! LOL!

JFK 04-27-2011 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 18091508)
http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lk...xj7vo1_500.jpg



Can hardly wait to see the Donald's tax returns... :1orglaugh

ADG

I bet he's gonna try and weasel out of it somehow:winkwink:

TheDoc 04-27-2011 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank21 (Post 18091938)
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Bq5v8T4edi...s1600/610x.jpg

http://remixxworld.blogspot.com/2009...ransiskus.html


Obama wanted to become president of Indonesia.... Now tell me how that even is possible if he were NOT an Indonesian citizen?


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16813267/

Your posts slightly confuse me... are you trying to be sarcastic? I ask because it's like you're trying to bash him, but then you post this stuff which totally supports that he's good to go... just kinda hard to tell which direction you're coming from.

nation-x 04-27-2011 03:43 PM

http://www.wnd.com

Quote:

WorldNetDaily Exclusive
Widow of Obama 'birth doctor' advises Hawaii Health Dept. Breaking News
Deceased physician's name appears on document released today
--WND

Hawaii kept birth certificate hidden in vault
Document moved to more secure location months ago
--Fox News

WorldNetDaily Exclusive
Authors: Even Hawaii birth won't make Obama eligible Breaking News
President still has major legal issues following release of 'birth certificate'
--WND

Oprah to Obama: What took you so long?
President: 'I was there, so I knew I had been born there – I remembered it'
--Mediaite

WorldNetDaily Exclusive
Hawaii slams door on birth certificates, except for Obama Breaking News
State gets tough on those seeking documentation in wake of Trump questions
--WND

WorldNetDaily Exclusive
Rush Limbaugh: I'm shocked Obama 'was actually born' Breaking News
Radio host on messiah types: 'They just descend from the heavens'
--WND

WorldNetDaily
White House releases Obama 'birth certificate' Breaking News
Cites Kapiolani as location, father's race as 'African'
--WND

Furious Obama demanded detailed birth certificate
President's outside counsel flew to Honolulu to retrieve documents
--Washington Post

Obama 'bemused and puzzled' by controversy
'We do not have time for this kind of silliness ... I have better stuff to do'
--Real Clear Politics

PHOTONETDAILY
See copy of long-form birth certificate
Document cites hospital, includes signature of attending doctor
--Whitehouse.gov

Trump: 'I'm taking great credit'
'Why didn't he do this a long time ago? It's shocking, it's shocking'
--Real Clear Politics

Obama trumps book on birth certificate
'Triumphant' Farah says he 'fully expected this to happen'
--Washington Post

White House: Myth resurfaced 'recently'
Request 1st made for Obama's 'long-form' certificate on April 22
--Politico

GOP pivots away from 'birthers'
'Campaign politics and talk about birth certificates distracting from economy'
--Politico

Frank21 04-27-2011 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 18091951)
Your posts slightly confuse me... are you trying to be sarcastic? I ask because it's like you're trying to bash him, but then you post this stuff which totally supports that he's good to go... just kinda hard to tell which direction you're coming from.

Did you check his name?

He wanted to be president of Indonesia not from United states lol.
as a muslim by the way and now he claims to be a christian if he is in usa.

He seems to change his name and religion wherever he comes.

Not bashing just saying it all seems very secretive for someone who was gonna run "the most transparent government ever"

blackmonsters 04-27-2011 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 18091929)


http://images.20x200.com/art/images/...tworkimage.jpg

Vendzilla 04-27-2011 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 18091912)
Of course you have your's; because there was no place to store it since you were
born here :

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_b7GffuYXN-...rHome_0000.jpg

At least I moved up, here's your play area as a kid
http://scrapetv.com/News/Images/hole...e%20ground.JPG

Vendzilla 04-27-2011 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 18091914)
It is a copy, even if it doesn't look like it... otherwise you couldn't request a copy of your original, and they couldn't stamp it and cert that it's real without the real one to copy.

Edit: You can request a new cert (with proof of course) from the local Courthouse, Hospital or State if they can not find the record. One of the 3 appear to be the keepers of certs for those of us born normally.

No, please read before making statements, the one from the HOSPITAL is original, you can tell that from the feet prints.

the one from the state is a copy and I just got a second copy of that to get a new passport.

The signature on the cert for my doctor is the grandfather of a good friend of mine


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