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Joxxy 04-28-2011 02:46 PM

48÷2(9+3) = x ---> x/5.76 = 50

FOIL works for binomials, PEMDAS for equations. Work it left to right.
Trust me, I'm Asian.

FlexxAeon 04-28-2011 02:46 PM

JFK gonna say "288" instead of "50?"

TMM_John 04-28-2011 02:49 PM

The correct answer by the way, is 288 :)

d-null 04-28-2011 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlexxAeon (Post 18094689)
i was just forgetting the rules and thought that 2(12) took precedence for some foolish reason

my old math teacher Mr. Ramsey would slap me

it does, 2(12) = (2(12)) it does not necessarily = 2*(12) when other expressions are involved

Konkan 04-28-2011 02:49 PM

48/2*(9+3)=48/2*12=48/24=2

cooldude7 04-28-2011 02:50 PM

wtf i read that thing after 48 as + plus.,.,., fuck me.

what did i loose ? other than virginity :P

VladS 04-28-2011 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TMM_John (Post 18094709)
The correct answer by the way, is 288 :)

I told you so.

TheDoc 04-28-2011 02:52 PM

That's not a divide sign, it's an over sign so you multiple first.

ilnjscb 04-28-2011 02:54 PM

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/48293

WarChild 04-28-2011 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 18094719)
That's not a divide sign, it's an over sign so you multiple first.

Umm, what?

The "over" line in a fraction MEANS divide, does it not?

Have a look at your keyboard, let me know where the division sign resides? ;)

TMM_John 04-28-2011 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 18094731)
Umm, what?

The "over" line in a fraction MEANS divide, does it not?

Have a look at your keyboard, let me know where the division sign resides? ;)

LOL, in people's imaginations.

vano 04-28-2011 03:03 PM

the answer is 2, idiots

9+3 = 12
12 x 2 = 24
48 / 24 = 2

TheDoc 04-28-2011 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 18094731)
Umm, what?

The "over" line in a fraction MEANS divide, does it not?

Have a look at your keyboard, let me know where the division sign resides? ;)

It's still divide but it's said over, so the order changes. Either way, I'm no math person I just remember running into this with code.

Seth Manson 04-28-2011 03:05 PM

When I voted 288 and viewed the results, I was the only person that had said 288. Two people said 2, and one person said robot chicken.

Then I just sat quietly to see if anyone else would say 288.

DatingGold 04-28-2011 03:07 PM

288 is what I come up with

DirtyDanza 04-28-2011 03:07 PM

288
easy try something hard next time...

FlexxAeon 04-28-2011 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vano (Post 18094749)
the answer is 2, idiots

9+3 = 12
12 x 2 = 24
48 / 24 = 2

google calc says 288

and we all know google is never wrong

:upsidedow

TheDoc 04-28-2011 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 18094693)
oh its getting good

soon someone will try to prove the rational number system :)

I have no idea what that is... if you have that in Doc terms maybe I can help :)

vano 04-28-2011 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlexxAeon (Post 18094760)
google calc says 288

and we all know google is never wrong

:upsidedow

it's a troll

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/48293

Phoenix 04-28-2011 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 18094764)
I have no idea what that is... if you have that in Doc terms maybe I can help :)


well basically a rational number is any number that can be expressed as a fraction

i cant believe how many people got this wrong

newB 04-28-2011 03:25 PM

I hope you all are joking.

48÷2(9+3)=X
48÷2(12)=X
48÷24=X
2=X

Or

48÷2(9+3)=X
48=2X(9+3)
48=18X+6X
48=24X
2=X

Or

48÷2(9+3)=X
48÷(18+6)=X
48÷(24)=X
2=X

Or

48÷2(9+3)=X
48÷(9+3)=2X
48÷(12)=2X
4=2X
2=X

I think it's safe to say the answer is 2.

TheDoc 04-28-2011 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 18094773)
well basically a rational number is any number that can be expressed as a fraction

i cant believe how many people got this wrong

Oh yeahhhh...

Math kills me, I just don't use it enough, other than percentages and ratios, basic stuff.. I've replaced the ol'memory with tons useless web knowledge and forgot all the math :)

kristin 04-28-2011 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newB (Post 18094788)
I hope you all are joking.



Or

48÷2(9+3)=X
48÷(18+6)=X
48÷(24)=X
2=X


I think it's safe to say the answer is 2.

That's how I did it and deep down I still feel right, but apparently not so much. :/

WarChild 04-28-2011 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newB (Post 18094788)
I hope you all are joking.

48÷2(9+3)=X
48÷2(12)=X
48÷24=X
2=X

Or

48÷2(9+3)=X
48=2X(9+3)
48=18X+6X
48=24X
2=X

Or

48÷2(9+3)=X
48÷(18+6)=X
48÷(24)=X
2=X

Or

48÷2(9+3)=X
48÷(9+3)=2X
48÷(12)=2X
4=2X
2=X

I think it's safe to say the answer is 2.

What is making you do the multiplciation BEFORE division even though it comes afterwards when reading left to right?

Lilit 04-28-2011 03:30 PM

lol got 2 at the first glance and when I looked better got 288. The correct answer is 288. Tricky :)

Phoenix 04-28-2011 03:30 PM

BTW the answer is 2

not 288
you must distribute the 2 into the bracket before returning to the rest of the expression

this is a troll thread though.

if you got this wrong, you are not a stupid person, it is written in a way that could be interpreted the wrong way.

if you need to see a proof i have it :)

kristin 04-28-2011 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phoenix (Post 18094802)
btw the answer is 2

not 288
you must distribute the 2 into the bracket before returning to the rest of the expression

this is a troll thread though.

If you got this wrong, you are not a stupid person, it is written in a way that could be interpreted the wrong way.

If you need to see a proof i have it :)

yes!!!!!!!!!!!!

Joxxy 04-28-2011 03:33 PM

Guess I lost my Asian "math" cred. Very dishonorable.
Mind=blown

Phoenix 04-28-2011 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joxxy (Post 18094809)
Guess I lost my Asian "math" cred. Very dishonorable.
Mind=blown

its ok..you are an awesome golfer

its enough :)

WarChild 04-28-2011 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 18094802)
BTW the answer is 2

not 288
you must distribute the 2 into the bracket before returning to the rest of the expression

this is a troll thread though.

if you got this wrong, you are not a stupid person, it is written in a way that could be interpreted the wrong way.

if you need to see a proof i have it :)

You're talking about implied multiplication vs explicit in over riding the standard order of operations. There's no consensus on this, however, among even Mathemeticians. So how can you show "proof" of this when there's no agreement?

If you're following the standard order of operations the answer is 288.

FlexxAeon 04-28-2011 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vano (Post 18094767)

:error :1orglaugh

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joxxy (Post 18094809)
Guess I lost my Asian "math" cred. Very dishonorable.
Mind=blown

breaking news: black guy gets math right while asian guy gets it wrong!

divide by zero and end the world now!

kristin 04-28-2011 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 18094794)
What is making you do the multiplciation BEFORE division even though it comes afterwards when reading left to right?

Because you have to foil ... so anything with N(X+Y) goes first. So you get NX+NY.

TheDoc 04-28-2011 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 18094815)
its ok..you are an awesome golfer

its enough :)

Speaking of golf.... hit me up.

Phoenix 04-28-2011 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 18094817)
You're talking about implied multiplication vs explicit in over riding the standard order of operations. There's no consensus on this, however, among even Mathemeticians. So how can you show "proof" of this when there's no agreement?

If you're following the standard order of operations the answer is 288.


in order for something to be True
it must hold for all numbers
substitute the 2 with a variable...say z

and see if you still leave it alone :)

WarChild 04-28-2011 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 18094824)
in order for something to be True
it must hold for all numbers
substitute the 2 with a variable...say z

and see if you still leave it alone :)

Sorry, not going to bite anymore on a badly written problem. There's no steadfast rule that elevates the priority of implied multiplication over explicit. It's a good troll though reading through some of the comments and what not on the knowyourmeme page.

moeloubani 04-28-2011 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 18094824)
in order for something to be True
it must hold for all numbers
substitute the 2 with a variable...say z

and see if you still leave it alone :)

lol what?

the answer is 288

if you think it's any different then you're reading the question wrong

the way it's written the answer = 288

uno 04-28-2011 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 18094651)
haha many wouldn't take part if it was

look bryan declared he likes robot chicken ;)

Oh come on. Who doesn't like Robot Chicken?

Phoenix 04-28-2011 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 18094837)
Sorry, not going to bite anymore on a badly written problem. There's no steadfast rule that elevates the priority of implied multiplication over explicit. It's a good troll though reading through some of the comments and what not on the knowyourmeme page.



its 2

trust me
you can prove it to yourself

uno 04-28-2011 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 18094693)
oh its getting good

soon someone will try to prove the rational number system :)

Don't make me divide by 0!

TMM_John 04-28-2011 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 18094858)
its 2

trust me
you can prove it to yourself

It's 288. The bugs in the calculators that started the whole meme have been corrected. I'll let you troll in peace tho ;-)

Deputy Chief Command 04-28-2011 03:58 PM

http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=488334

even the physics forums got trolled bad .. lol




Quote:

I get 288. In the acronym PEMDAS, the M and D operations are at the same priority and the A and S are at the same priority. Arithmetic operations at the same priority are evaluated left to right. So for example, 2 + 5 - 3 is the same as (2 + 5) - 3 = 7 - 3 = 4, while 2 - 5 + 3 is the same as (2 - 5) + 3 = -3 + 3 = 0.


I can't say that I remember my algebra teacher in ninth grade going into quite such detail (in fact, all I remember her telling us was the acronym MDAS, with a mnemonic device of My Dear Aunt Sally), but programming languages such as C, C++, C#, Fortran, Pascal, and others are very specific about operator precedence.

For this reason, 48÷2*(12) should be evaluated as if it were written (48÷2)*12 = 24 * 12 = 288.

If you really meant


it should be written as 48/(2(9 + 3)). That forces the multiplication to be performed before the division.
that being said / quoted from the physics forum . . . I voted "2" :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

uno 04-28-2011 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 18094802)
BTW the answer is 2

not 288
you must distribute the 2 into the bracket before returning to the rest of the expression

this is a troll thread though.

if you got this wrong, you are not a stupid person, it is written in a way that could be interpreted the wrong way.

if you need to see a proof i have it :)

duh
5678

uno 04-28-2011 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 18094815)
its ok..you are an awesome golfer

its enough :)

I suck at golf and I got it right. :upsidedow

Titan 04-28-2011 04:04 PM

http://www.google.com/search?q=48%C3%B72%289%2B3%29

case closed

288

You add 9 plus 3 then multiply/divide from left to right as per normal.

Nicky 04-28-2011 04:04 PM

I still think I'm right with my 288 answer.

WarChild 04-28-2011 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 18094858)
its 2

trust me
you can prove it to yourself

The question is written amigously, period. There's no PROOF you can offer to change that.

The standard would be to always use parentheses where a statement is ambiguous without special rules.

If you were looking for the answer 2, shouldn't the question really be written as

48/[2(9+3)] = ?

OR

48
------- = ?
2(9+3)

So yes, it's a pretty clever troll to write an ambigious statement and then argue about the results. However, it will never be a wrong answer to apply the standard order of operations to this equation.

jimmy-3-way 04-28-2011 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kristin (Post 18094820)
Because you have to foil ... so anything with N(X+Y) goes first. So you get NX+NY.

That's the distributive property, Ginger. Not FOIL.

Deputy Chief Command 04-28-2011 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titan (Post 18094877)
http://www.google.com/search?q=48%C3%B72%289%2B3%29

case closed

288

You add 9 plus 3 then multiply/divide from left to right as per normal.

if people are really interested in this crap you should check out the physicsforum post on this

I like this one

Quote:

The general consensus among math people is that "multiplication by juxtaposition" (that is, multiplying by just putting things next to each other, rather than using the "×" sign) indicates that the juxtaposed values must be multiplied together before processing other operations.But not all software is programmed this way, and sometimes teachers view things differently. If in doubt, ask! - http://www.purplemath.com/modules/orderops2.htm

this indicates the correct answer is 2 not 288

http://www.physicsforums.com/showthr...=488334&page=6

kristin 04-28-2011 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmy-3-way (Post 18094882)
That's the distributive property, Ginger. Not FOIL.

Whatever, I wasn't 100% sure since FOIL is (X+Y)(T+Z).

newB 04-28-2011 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 18094794)
What is making you do the multiplciation BEFORE division even though it comes afterwards when reading left to right?

Because that's the way you do it, otherwise the equation would be written:
(48÷2)(9+3)=X

If we substitute the X for 2 and 48 for Y so the equation would read:
Y÷2(9+3)=2
Y÷24=2
Y=48

If X were 288 then:
Y÷2(9+3)=288
Y÷24=288
Y=6912 which we already know is incorrect.


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