NO it's not "legal where you are". You're breaking federal law thats what. Federal law trumps your state, county or whatever laws.

sadly, it's big business now. privatizing the system gone way wrong. but to your point, i believe most criminals should not be behind bars to begin with, much of the rest can be rehabilitated with the proper programs and reintegrated back into society, some of the rest are career criminals and should be in prison for life and some should be executed immediately.

how many cases have you ever heard of innocent people getting killed during a weed deal or any other connection to weed at all period ? not very many..

how many people have you heard of getting killed by drunk drivers or crimes committed while intoxicated ( almost every crime lol ) ...


nuff said..

Nope, not at all. What I see is a mother and son, who more than likely just got stripped of a bulk of their financial well being. There's a decent chance they're now wondering how they'll pay the bills & eat, and are applying for food stamps now.

i could run the shit out of a prison.. my prisons would make money

you start in a concrete cell 5ftx5ftx5ft and you work your way up just like in society. You earn your way out.

ooooooooo0000oooo you got me good metatard!

you remind me of farva from super troopers! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh it's true.

http://thehotglove.com/wp-content/up...0/03/farva.jpg

he was dealing drugs outta his momma's house. he's not a real productive member of the community. while you could be right, i don't see this as making his situation worse.

wrong. i agree you deserve a prescription LEGALLY. you're a hypocrite though.

Can't do that in America anymore. Cries of racism, true or not, follow any judge that gives a sentence for the same crime that differs from one received from another ethnic group.

i'm wrong that you remind me of farva?

hypocrite seems harsh as a characterization of me. i know you come to the table with a hard-on for me and that's cool, but it should be clear to anyone that reads the thread that i am engaging in an adult discussion/debate on the topic and there's no need to make this personal/about me.

No sorry I dont have a hard on for you. I think you're a big time loser.

So you use a product illegally yourself. Most likely daily. You have at least broken the law over 4x. But you agree with his sentence. But you're not a hypocrite? Please.

With your "critical thinking" you also deserve to be locked up for life.

hey metatard, this thread is not about me, stop trying to hijack it and make it so. take your hard-on for me elsewhere and start a thread if it's that important to you. otherwise, let those of us discussing it discuss it.

so if he's a parent let him stack up some felonies?

I am on topic. This thread is about you. It is about what we think of the hypocrisy of the sentence.

You think the guy should be locked up for life. I think you should be locked up for life.

You have most likely committed more federal offences than him. So why should you not be locked in jail?

You can sling out all the name calling you want. It is what people do when they have no response so they resort to it.

man you ever been to cali or new york plenty killed over herb. the majority of people that have adult beverages do it responsibly. don't try to use a few bad apples as an example. :) if your buying pot your not innocent because its illegal.

are you really so completely dense that you can see the difference? you really truly cannot see that NO ONE live a life without committing a crime. are you really so myopic in your view that you fail to realize how the world goes round? he got caught 4 times. how slow do i have to type that? if i ever get caught 4 times for doing the same fucking thing in a state that has a 4 strikes you are out law, then i will certainly have deserved what's coming to me.

jesus fucking christ on a stick you have a hard-on for me.

I have no idea why you are continually obsessing about me having a hard on i am flattered. but at the same time not interested.

we are not talking about other crimes. why dont YOU stick to the topic. we are talking about YOU breaking the law.

You have not been caught yet. But you have broken the law many more times than him. So basically you are saying it is ok to commit crimes as long as you are not caught? that does not sound like the "critical thinking" you are so famously known for.

"4 strike law". I have never heard of a "4 strike law". Pretty sure baseball has "3 strikes" and they named the "3 strike law" after it (which is discussed no where in the article). You should probably re read. Maybe once you're not stoned you can do some more "critical thinking".

4 strikes and you are out. everyone knows that.

Life sentence, FUCK OFF!!

lolz, you make it too easy.\

1. you can't see the difference between felony and misdemeanor.

b. you equate my having a weed card and smoking weed at my leisure in a state that has legal weed laws, has decriminalized pot and during a time when the federal government has gone on public record stating they will not pursue people that use weed like me with a repeat offending drug dealer in a state where it is entirely illegal? got it.

* you tell me i can't read in regards to a 4 strike law yet if you had clicked through to the original article YOU would of READ that the career criminal was prosecuted further by the d.a. under a 4th offense law, i.e. 4 strikes.


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cite some examples of innocent people killed perhaps..i can cite plenty of examples of alcohol causing deaths.. open any news site.. happens daily in any large city.
the majority of pot smokers do too... infact alot more people smoke pot responsibly than drink alcohol ..
you have got to be kidding me.. a few bad apples ?millions of people smoke pot , leading to MAYBE a handfull of deaths , millions of people drink alcohol , leading to hundreds of thousands of deaths..

I don't think of this as stupidity but conviction, when you believe what you're doing is not wrong and you should have the right to do it you keep doing it.

This is one of the reason I'm not putting a single foot on US soil and if it keeps going that way in Canada with the moronic Steven Harper wanting to criminalize marijuana possession soon enough I'll be moving to Netherlands

"Drug offenders in the state are subject to life imprisonment after being convicted three or more times of a crime that carries a sentence exceeding 10 years."

did his previous offenses carry sentences over 10 years?

shouldn't be a felony to begin with.. we also shouldn't have unemployment. graduated work force..

unemployed , heres a gov job cleaning trash, the worse you do the more unproductive you are the shittier the job gets , all the way down to forced labour. crime forces you down the labour ladder to the shittiest jobs, good productive behaviour moves you up..

your mixing two different things here. he was trafficking meaning drugs for sale. this isn't a possession case.

step #1 cold dark cell , no amenities
step #2 hard labour , no rewards
step #3 hard labour , percentage of profit earned
step #4 hard labour , percentage plus amenities ( tv etc )
step #5 supervised release + labour
step #6 unsupervised release + labour

if the guy can't get a job he cant feed his kids , he has no choice but to commit crimes

so what , he was selling something harmless. The only thing dangerous about it is that it is illegal..

regulate dangerous things.

probably just about as dangerous as selling shit on craigslist regularly. you get some real weirdos sometimes...

on a completely unrelated topic but somewhat related..

theres is a show called "real police women of **** city" on t.v.

it is like a female version of cops basically, and they recently had a bust of home contractors who were operating without a contracting license.. they had setup a sting operation where they had a cop pose as a homeowner looking to get a kitchen redone or something , then a full swat team rushes in guns drawn and takes down the perps ( contractors )

priorities lol

you can add as many laughing smilies as you want. it doesnt stop from the fact you're clueless.

"federal government has gone on record". So what? Politicians go on record and say a lot of things. It is still illegal and you're breaking a federal LAW which is not a misdemeanor. Let me guess you believe what politicians say trump laws also now? Again do some reading you will see federal law trumps your state law. But then again I already pointed this out. Do some of your "critical thinking" and understand what that means.

A) it is impossible to have "4 strikes". Even in baseball when there is a foul ball it will stay at 2 strikes. (i mentioned this just because i know you will try to pull some rabbit non related post out of your hat)
B) There is no "4 strike law" because it is impossible to have "4 strikes"
C) It is a repeat offender law has nothing to do with "4 strikes" which is impossible (See A and B)
D) "Drug offenders in the state are subject to life imprisonment after being convicted three or more times of a crime" where does it say "4 strikes". You again are clueless.

I makes it "easy" for you but yet you continually come off as clueless and resort to name calling.

I agree there:2 cents:

again you talk straight out of your fucking ass.

1. possession is a fucking misdemeanor for the 1st 2x at the fed level.

2. i said 4 strikes, that doesn't mean there's a fucking wiki page on 4 strikes, it was a phrase i used to summarize the fact it was his 4th offense. everyone else figured it out, certainly you can as well with your g.e.d.


again, hard on for me. get over it metatard, you remember what it was that got you all riled up over me right? i confidently shredded your brainiac conspiracy theory that *the jews* are behind 9/11. you claimed then you put me on ignore yet here you are getting your panties all riled up again over what me.

get over it man, that was what, a year ago? let it go bra.

metard, stick to yapping your trap about shit you know about, what the fuck ever that may be.


FEDERAL Marijuana Penalties

Possession
Any amount (first offense) misdemeanor 1 year $1,000
Any amount (second offense) misdemeanor 15 days MMS* $2,500
Any amount (subsequent offense) misdemeanor or felony 90 days MMS* - 3 years $5,000
*Mandatory minimum sentence.
Sale or Cultivation
Less than 50 kg felony 5 years $250,000
50 to 100 kg felony
20 years
$1,000,000
100 to 1,000 kg felony 5 - 40 years $2,000,000
1000 kg or more felony 10 years - life $4,000,000
To a minor felony double penalty double penalty
Within 1,000 feet of a school, or other specified areas felony double penalty double penalty

http://norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=4575

Yea, that was in Broward County Florida, where else but Florida. It really is embarrassing down here sometimes.

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The "War On Drugs" should more appropriately be termed "The War On The American People"!

I am a member of NORML

http://norml.org/

and LEAP (Due to long past employment experience):

http://www.leap.cc/cms/index.php

Stop the madness!

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"It's no secret there's a huge war on drugs going on everyday. You see it in the streets, cops pulling random people over and searching their cars, drug dogs at their heels. Now if you're like me, you're asking yourself, how can they make such a big deal over something as harmless as cannabis? I mean there has been many test over cannabis and results tell us it's not harmful. In fact, it has been reintroduced as a medicine in a few states. It has been discovered that some cannabinoids help fight cancer, I'm sure you're saying, "But if it helped cancer they would make that more open to the public...right?" wrong... let me explain by telling you the real story behind cannibis being illegalized.... As you probably know the hemp plant has been used for many things through out history: food, medicine, rope, paper, fabric, and even at one point as legal tender. This goes all the way back to 7000 b.c in records . It started drawing public attention in the 1900s as a recreational drug.

In 1619 the first law was passed in Jamestown colony, virginia, ordering all farmers to grow indian hempseed or they would be jailed. Following the mexican revolution, mexicans started coming into America bringing with them marijuana plants for recreational use. The small farms and large farms grew tension because of the large farms using cheaper mexican labor.

Not only were the mexicans bringing it over, but also the mormons who visited mexico in 1910. They brought it back to salt lake city and caused the church an uproar over cannabis. Their reaction was used to fuel the first anti marijuana state law. Then Wyoming followed, then Texas, Iowa, Nevada, Oregon, washington and nebraska. These laws were passed specifically targeting Mexican- American population.

In the eastern states they were using it to fight African- Americans, stating.."Marihuana influences Negroes to look at white people in the eye, step on white men?s shadows and look at a white woman twice.? People started to generate fear, thinking Mexicans and blacks were snaring white children with marijuana.

Then in 1931 the story changed to marijuana causes violence ,due to Dr. A. E . Fossier who wrote this in New Orleans medical and surgical journal, "Under the influence of hashish those fanatics would madly rush at their enemies, and ruthlessly massacre every one within their grasp.?

From 1919 to 1933 they had the alcohol prohibition, with everything out in the open to distract people from drug laws silently being passed. however drugs could not completely be outlawed on a federal level, so they used federal taxes to get around it.

In 1930 a new government agency was created to find the problem and solution to drugs. Harry j. Anslinger was named director of this agency. He knew that the taxing of opiate and cocaine use weren't enough to help build his agency so he decided to include marijuana and started working on the illegalization of it. He focused on the aspects of rascism, violence and fear to feed it.

Harry had a lot of help from William Randolf Hearst to promote his stand against marijuana through Hearst's newspaper company. Why would he help? first off, he owned a newpaper company and made lots of money off stories about crazy mexicans and devil weed. Second- He owned a large timber company and was losing money because of hemp. Third he hated mexicans because he lost 800,000 acres of timber land to Pancho Villa.

Anslinger started receiving help from various companies to protect their business from hemp competition. After years of secret planning and media coverage from Hearst , Anslinger proceeded to congress with his plans and numerous articles from Hearst newspaper about ax murderers using marijuana.

Thus came the Marijuana Tax Act of 1937. This was the first of many powerful people who helped make marijuana illegal. So as you can see Marijuana wasn't outlawed because ," it's dangerous, or causes violence.." It was outlawed to suit the needs of rich politicians and corporate companies. So there you have it ladies and gentlemen....."

http://www.examiner.com/cannabis-rev...ally-illegal-1

The sentence for this meaningless weak ass drug is a crime in itself.

Nobody would be stupid enough to fail at killing someone by putting marijuana in their
coffee, but drano works just fine.

Does seem harsh, tough to pass judgement on really.

Didn't learn his lesson, or wasn't taught a lesson so he obviously kept doing it.

I think more could have been done to stop him and help him do something more productive.

I get it... hes stupid... but dont you think the guy that just got his 12th DUI and has harmed a family or two that only got a slap on the wrist ... again from the "judicial" system... dont you think HE deserves to be in said dudes spot?

Lets rethink this one a minute shall we, Markham?

To crazy...
Guess he should have relocated to California and not Luisiana outback shit hole...

That's the whole purpose of child services. If parents are teaching their kids something wrong (for example that laws should be scoffed at and broken anyways) or if parents are putting their kids in dangerous situations (surrounding them with illegal drugs and people that are into doing illegal things) then those kids are better off without the parents.

You might not agree with weed being legal or not however society has come together and labelled weed illegal. This isn't about weed, the guy can protest about weed not being legal as much as he wants, this is about the law that he broke 4 times.

Now I'm not saying that the law is fair - and if it isn't there are ways to get rid of that law so long as the majority of people that vote on the issue in your state/country agree.

Life in jail is harsh but a guy that goes back to court again and again for the same offence ought to know that the punishment will fall on the tough side on of those times.


Yeah for sure the guy doing 12 DUI deserves it more and people SHOULD bring these laws they don't like up to get them taken away but until then people have to follow the law.

Drug criminals in Louisiana are subject to life imprisonment after they have been convicted three or more times of a crime that exceed a sentence of ten years, as Cornell Hood had been. He knew the consequence of his next arrest, he gambled and lost...he better check the date on the KY Jelly because Angola is going to be all up in his ass.

Uh what? ...and justice for all! Wait a few years and they will punish it with death sentence in the USA.

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1. The guy is absolutely asinine for not stopping after the 3rd bust.... C'mon, Really?

2. The sentence is crazy when it is longer than the sentence for rape or murder... C'mon, Really?

3. If this had happened 3 years ago then GFYers would be crying how the Bush administration is total BS for having this sentence handed down.... So where is the blame on Obama?






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Yeah, but the only reason people get killed is because it's illegal.

Same shit happened when Al Capone sold alcohol and it was illegal.

Plus if you add up all the people who ever got killed through drug violence specifically
related to marijuana around the world, then that number would still be less than
the number of people who will die from alcohol related deaths in one year in the
US alone.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6089353/...s-deaths-year/



https://youtube.com/watch?v=DOdOraLP0w0




Claiming that drug use actually killed this man is bullshit.
I see quite clearly who killed him. He was killed by a fucking zealot that has no
concept or humanity when it comes to getting what he wants no matter how meaningless
the task is to the safety of society.

Drug use didn't kill him. But what are you saying?

That if you are guilty of a minor crime you should just fight the police and then they have to let you go? Then everyone would be fighting police officers over little things.

Resisting arrest killed this man. The job of a police officer is to make sure that when someone breaks the law they are brought to justice. What if this guy went crazy after this and sped off and killed someone?

yes, sentencing laws are fucked up, but don't do the crime if you can't do the time. You would have thought he would be smart enough to stop before mandated sentencing was to kick in. Now he can be somebody's bitch in prison

What if you shot me in the head over the internet? :1orglaugh

"what if" is for people who can't deal with "what did".

He wasn't killed for resiting he was choked to death as the cop tried to beat drugs
out of him that he had already swallowed.

The cop needed to realize that he could no longer get the drugs after they were swallowed.

The man would not have die if the cop had just beat him to make the arrest.

Deal with it.

Don't sell it, smoke it! heheh

It's illegal to sell pot from your house in Cal too.