A smile and wave would probably be a fair sentence. As the old adage goes, you don't want something unless it's forbidden to you. Just legalize the shit already. When it comes to factors that are harming society, I would rank weed pretty low.

that's the thing, right? he's already proven he will repeat again and again. how much does it cost to try each of those court cases? who knows but i'd wager it's cheaper over time to just keep him in prison.

no doubt. our prisons are over-crowded with non-violent minor drug possession type of offenders. don't get me wrong, it's a massive massive problem but i believe that is different from this. wouldn't you agree?

glad i am not a judge heh but i will give it a shot..

very hard to give an opinion when you think the original law is unjust but here goes..

always focus on the victim and what helps us as a community. having drug dealers kids running around with no dads doesn't help me.

To be honest i just don't see any reason to do anything.. maybe strict probation. there is no victim here..

What happens if you left a loaded weapon on kitchen table in front of your kids..? Thats pretty damn dangerous , but i'm sure you wouldnt want to see a father jailed for life because of it.. even after 3 warnings.. parenting classes, probation ..

I dont have all the answers , just an opinion heh

People should never forget the legal system does not disperse justice, it enforces the law.

Even in states where pot is legally dispensed and every other person is carrying a baggie of bud it's still illegal for individuals to sell it.

hey no, under the current system i wouldn't know the right answer for sure either. but here's the next question- how many shots do you give this guy? 5? 10? unlimited?

well then for starters we should probably decide if we want a better society or one where we get to inflict good retribution.

pushing herb can get people killed just like any other illegal drug.

Good point.

always go back to the victims for that.. the victims here are the children , so the question is at what point is it better for these kids to not have a father at all than to have one that makes very poor decisions.

Each case needs to be looked at on its own.

NO it's not "legal where you are". You're breaking federal law thats what. Federal law trumps your state, county or whatever laws.

sadly, it's big business now. privatizing the system gone way wrong. but to your point, i believe most criminals should not be behind bars to begin with, much of the rest can be rehabilitated with the proper programs and reintegrated back into society, some of the rest are career criminals and should be in prison for life and some should be executed immediately.

how many cases have you ever heard of innocent people getting killed during a weed deal or any other connection to weed at all period ? not very many..

how many people have you heard of getting killed by drunk drivers or crimes committed while intoxicated ( almost every crime lol ) ...


nuff said..

Nope, not at all. What I see is a mother and son, who more than likely just got stripped of a bulk of their financial well being. There's a decent chance they're now wondering how they'll pay the bills & eat, and are applying for food stamps now.

i could run the shit out of a prison.. my prisons would make money

you start in a concrete cell 5ftx5ftx5ft and you work your way up just like in society. You earn your way out.

ooooooooo0000oooo you got me good metatard!

you remind me of farva from super troopers! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh it's true.

http://thehotglove.com/wp-content/up...0/03/farva.jpg

he was dealing drugs outta his momma's house. he's not a real productive member of the community. while you could be right, i don't see this as making his situation worse.

wrong. i agree you deserve a prescription LEGALLY. you're a hypocrite though.

Can't do that in America anymore. Cries of racism, true or not, follow any judge that gives a sentence for the same crime that differs from one received from another ethnic group.

i'm wrong that you remind me of farva?

hypocrite seems harsh as a characterization of me. i know you come to the table with a hard-on for me and that's cool, but it should be clear to anyone that reads the thread that i am engaging in an adult discussion/debate on the topic and there's no need to make this personal/about me.

No sorry I dont have a hard on for you. I think you're a big time loser.

So you use a product illegally yourself. Most likely daily. You have at least broken the law over 4x. But you agree with his sentence. But you're not a hypocrite? Please.

With your "critical thinking" you also deserve to be locked up for life.

hey metatard, this thread is not about me, stop trying to hijack it and make it so. take your hard-on for me elsewhere and start a thread if it's that important to you. otherwise, let those of us discussing it discuss it.

so if he's a parent let him stack up some felonies?

I am on topic. This thread is about you. It is about what we think of the hypocrisy of the sentence.

You think the guy should be locked up for life. I think you should be locked up for life.

You have most likely committed more federal offences than him. So why should you not be locked in jail?

You can sling out all the name calling you want. It is what people do when they have no response so they resort to it.

man you ever been to cali or new york plenty killed over herb. the majority of people that have adult beverages do it responsibly. don't try to use a few bad apples as an example. :) if your buying pot your not innocent because its illegal.

are you really so completely dense that you can see the difference? you really truly cannot see that NO ONE live a life without committing a crime. are you really so myopic in your view that you fail to realize how the world goes round? he got caught 4 times. how slow do i have to type that? if i ever get caught 4 times for doing the same fucking thing in a state that has a 4 strikes you are out law, then i will certainly have deserved what's coming to me.

jesus fucking christ on a stick you have a hard-on for me.

I have no idea why you are continually obsessing about me having a hard on i am flattered. but at the same time not interested.

we are not talking about other crimes. why dont YOU stick to the topic. we are talking about YOU breaking the law.

You have not been caught yet. But you have broken the law many more times than him. So basically you are saying it is ok to commit crimes as long as you are not caught? that does not sound like the "critical thinking" you are so famously known for.

"4 strike law". I have never heard of a "4 strike law". Pretty sure baseball has "3 strikes" and they named the "3 strike law" after it (which is discussed no where in the article). You should probably re read. Maybe once you're not stoned you can do some more "critical thinking".

4 strikes and you are out. everyone knows that.

Life sentence, FUCK OFF!!

lolz, you make it too easy.\

1. you can't see the difference between felony and misdemeanor.

b. you equate my having a weed card and smoking weed at my leisure in a state that has legal weed laws, has decriminalized pot and during a time when the federal government has gone on public record stating they will not pursue people that use weed like me with a repeat offending drug dealer in a state where it is entirely illegal? got it.

* you tell me i can't read in regards to a 4 strike law yet if you had clicked through to the original article YOU would of READ that the career criminal was prosecuted further by the d.a. under a 4th offense law, i.e. 4 strikes.


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cite some examples of innocent people killed perhaps..i can cite plenty of examples of alcohol causing deaths.. open any news site.. happens daily in any large city.
the majority of pot smokers do too... infact alot more people smoke pot responsibly than drink alcohol ..
you have got to be kidding me.. a few bad apples ?millions of people smoke pot , leading to MAYBE a handfull of deaths , millions of people drink alcohol , leading to hundreds of thousands of deaths..

I don't think of this as stupidity but conviction, when you believe what you're doing is not wrong and you should have the right to do it you keep doing it.

This is one of the reason I'm not putting a single foot on US soil and if it keeps going that way in Canada with the moronic Steven Harper wanting to criminalize marijuana possession soon enough I'll be moving to Netherlands

"Drug offenders in the state are subject to life imprisonment after being convicted three or more times of a crime that carries a sentence exceeding 10 years."

did his previous offenses carry sentences over 10 years?

shouldn't be a felony to begin with.. we also shouldn't have unemployment. graduated work force..

unemployed , heres a gov job cleaning trash, the worse you do the more unproductive you are the shittier the job gets , all the way down to forced labour. crime forces you down the labour ladder to the shittiest jobs, good productive behaviour moves you up..

your mixing two different things here. he was trafficking meaning drugs for sale. this isn't a possession case.

step #1 cold dark cell , no amenities
step #2 hard labour , no rewards
step #3 hard labour , percentage of profit earned
step #4 hard labour , percentage plus amenities ( tv etc )
step #5 supervised release + labour
step #6 unsupervised release + labour

if the guy can't get a job he cant feed his kids , he has no choice but to commit crimes

so what , he was selling something harmless. The only thing dangerous about it is that it is illegal..

regulate dangerous things.

probably just about as dangerous as selling shit on craigslist regularly. you get some real weirdos sometimes...

on a completely unrelated topic but somewhat related..

theres is a show called "real police women of **** city" on t.v.

it is like a female version of cops basically, and they recently had a bust of home contractors who were operating without a contracting license.. they had setup a sting operation where they had a cop pose as a homeowner looking to get a kitchen redone or something , then a full swat team rushes in guns drawn and takes down the perps ( contractors )

priorities lol

you can add as many laughing smilies as you want. it doesnt stop from the fact you're clueless.

"federal government has gone on record". So what? Politicians go on record and say a lot of things. It is still illegal and you're breaking a federal LAW which is not a misdemeanor. Let me guess you believe what politicians say trump laws also now? Again do some reading you will see federal law trumps your state law. But then again I already pointed this out. Do some of your "critical thinking" and understand what that means.

A) it is impossible to have "4 strikes". Even in baseball when there is a foul ball it will stay at 2 strikes. (i mentioned this just because i know you will try to pull some rabbit non related post out of your hat)
B) There is no "4 strike law" because it is impossible to have "4 strikes"
C) It is a repeat offender law has nothing to do with "4 strikes" which is impossible (See A and B)
D) "Drug offenders in the state are subject to life imprisonment after being convicted three or more times of a crime" where does it say "4 strikes". You again are clueless.

I makes it "easy" for you but yet you continually come off as clueless and resort to name calling.