Thats true.:thumbsup

The answer is Motivation, everything else is an excuse.

i thought it was a question of motivation? :winkwink:

I was born a poor black child and was able to escape the ghetto. There is no excuse.

exactly...the rich want it more
the poor, can still be happy people

just they wont be driving new cars...or have the fanciest house etc

not the end of the world

Yeah right. So the people that win lotteries realy worked hard picking those 6 numbers.

i got the poor on me!
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life's a garden, dig it.

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You never escape the ghetto...the world is a ghetto:thumbsup

this is one of the most stupid and illiterate subjects in GFY, and that is achievement by itself. I can point thousands of extremely rich people that never worked or "work" perhaps one hour a day and millions of people working 12-16 hours a day and still under extreme poverty. I mean, it the definition of capitalism, making CAPITAL work to create more wealth by owning the means of production and labor force. But it seems the entire world was wrong for the last 200 years or so and we're all living in some kind of parallel reality :Oh crap

Maybe the OP should go to one of those asian sweat shops to understand in which reality 99.999999999999999999999999999999999% of people live :2 cents:

Not if you see the world through Oscar The Grouch's eyes.

uhmmm... right....
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It takes money to make money.

Oscar is rich and doesn't have clear eyes:thumbsup

so tell me, do you live in a wonderful place where life is fair, hard working ALWAYS pays (without a single exception) and poor people is poor because they don't work? I mean, in your wonderful place Asia, Africa, most of America (yes, I'm including US!!!) just to name easy to spot examples simply doesn't exist? Really? So tell me oh wise one, how do we get to your great beautiful la-la-land!

This thread reminded me of a hilarious bit Dave Chappelle does on "The Secret". I dunno if this embed will work or not, so here's the URL just in case: https://youtube.com/watch?v=WbS9jZOlQjc&feature=fvst

You see... i'm not a socialist, i'm not a communist. I'm not a misguided dipshit who think's he's going to save a continent like Africa which clearly cant be saved AND doesnt want to be. The economic sun set on Africa with the departure of colonial rule. Just a simple fact.

I do have a grasp on economics and macro economics and fully understand that economies grow, wealth grows, opportunities grow, incomes grow and so on. 15 years ago in Russia, the average salary in Moscow was a few hundred dollars or much less. Today, its on par with the USA. How did that happen if everyone in the entire city is still wallowing in abject poverty with no opportunity?

There is no possible way to make everything fair and equal for everyone all the time. You are the one talking in absolutes.. not me.... I never said life is fair. I never said anything about "without a single exception" - which was a borderline insane remark to make. I never said poverty doesn't exist. I never said life is all about bubblegum, balloons and unicorns for all in every country on earth. Life is hard for people in any west african shithole just, as life is hard for inbreeders in the kentucky mountains. That doesn't change the fact that all it takes is initiative and determination to change that.

The sad thing is that people like you enslave people. You tell them they can't. You tell them that its not their fault. You tell them that without your help, they can't achieve anything.

Poverty exists everywhere. Even in the USA. In fact, the USA is the worlds greatest example of what is possible ... what an individual is capable of, for those who truly want it. People come here from all the shitholes you can name and then some and take advantage of every opportunity available to them and make a life for themselves, save money, import more family, rinse/repeat. If you can't see that happening all day, everyday, year in and year out in your own fucking back yard, there is no point in discussing whats going on around the globe as if you actually know or care.

Well tons of customers in the ghetto for crack.

so you're saying the same as me only that you think people from (say) some shit hole in Africa just need to work hard to become rich. And in between, that me and people like me enslave people :helpme

so, you wise guru of economy and macro economics, it's not (say) some Nike CEO exploiting kids in sweat shops, but.... ME!!!! Damn kids, they should work 24 hours a day to get free of my slavery and domination! :mad:

And tell me you Nobel Prize of Economy, why is that the same level of domination between individuals exists at state level? ie, what will happen if (say) Nicaragua develops a high technology industry? What if Argentina develops a high level nuclear industry or high tech agrochemical? (this is not hypothetical, I know what HAPPENED).

Last that I checked, both pro and anti socialist-capitalist-whatever positions accept and research the issue of industry outsourcing since it's an objective fact. But somehow, it eluded you.

Finally, why don't you explain to the kids who I work with everyday that not only they need to work EVEN MORE for those that enslave him, but, in fact, the ones that help them providing them education, opportunities, taking them out of the streets, drugs, prostitution, crime, etc... are the ones that ENSLAVE THEM!!!!

Don't embarrass yourself anymore, you don't have a fucking clue on what you're talking about oh wise economic guru

PS: btw, maybe you can tell the many people in US that busted their asses for a whole life and lost EVERYTHING due to your "beloved people that works so hard" that in fact they should work harder. Just go and tell that to them in their faces, I can assure you'll get quite impressed. To say the least.

There is opportunity everywhere for those who are looking for it, willing to sacrifice and bust ass and work their way out of the hole they are in. You are the one arguing that they can't and that life is just so unfair that its unreasonable to expect anyone to even try.

The existence of so called "sweatshops" or whatever moronic 3rd world buzzwords you want to use, do not change the fact that people in all these so called impoverished countries aren't working their way out of poverty every single day with their economies growing, with average household incomes growing and that even dirt poor individuals at an internet cafe in afghanistan, now have access to global markets.

Your like a retarded rap song going on about how tough it is in the ghetto when any idiot can buy a bus ticket to somewhere else and work if they want to. The pathetic thing is that instead of those crybaby assholes doing it... its people from other countries - vietnamese, filipinos, mexicans, indians, pakistanies and everyone else... living on a dirt floor, with 10 people in a room, saving up to buy airfare to travel 1/2 way around the world and do it.

100 people who want to tell you "don't try... you can't... the only way you can, is if i'm the one helping you"

Uh, have you seen me?

I was going to answer, but you're so ignorant that it doesn't even worth it, it's just a waste of time. Go ride your unicorn back to your bubble gum world, I have some people to enslave

This pointless argument still going on??

I thought you were going to show all the major players in the biz how to double and triple their conversions/income etc?

Oh yeah... I remember now... no one took you up on your offer because you're a clown.

oh no, you're hurting my feelings, please don't, I'm too sensitive! :(

as for what you're mentioning, not that I owe you an explanation, but 2 companies took the chance: 1 DOUBLED (as in 100% you economy guru!) its income in 7 months and they're still my clients and a pretty neat income source, the other fucked me in the ass and I'm not ashamed of admitting it and with a couple people we're working on something way more ambitious than that. But even if nothing happened, how is my fault that people didn't take a legit offer based on results? It's called offer and demand, but well, guess that's another mystery for the "economy guru".

Now that I think about that, every single thing you say you show there are too many things you ignore about economy, you don't even know the basics. Maybe you should rethink this statement:

so far it's an objective fact you don't have a clue on the subject. Just sayin' :thumbsup

sorry, I gotta go back to enslave people, it's part of my master plan of world domination :thumbsup

almost forgot: since that thread I posted almost 50% of the biggest programs disappeared or re-converted, or got sold or are working at loss or scamming people and webmasters (and already discovered)

But hey, what do I know, I'm just enslaving kids! :Oh crap

Africa is not a lost cause!

Some solar powered desalination plants, some pipelines and irrigation equipment, and a few basic supplies.

the major problem is no clean water for people. Help them with that AND water for crops in the same stroke and they have massive farming potential.

The technological world is far from reaching it's peak, think how primitive things were just 100 or 200 years ago, give things time! :2 cents:

There you go again, it was everyone else's fault they didn't/couldn't take you up on your stellar offer to turn their businesses around for them.

It had nothing to do with you at all... nothing.

It had nothing to do with you making bizarre and absurd claims about how you were going to teach all the 7, 8 and 9 figure companies how to make money.

After all, who could doubt you...? I mean, you're a guy selling cheap porn designs. Obviously you can teach Reality Kings, Bang Bros, Pimp Roll et al, about their own business models and double/triple their revenue for them.

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Really...? The guy suffering from schizophrenia, who believes the government is broadcasting his thoughts, that he is psychic and that he is the "Adam" as in "Adam and Eve" from the Bible is weighing in on global economic issues?

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funny how you had to switch to an ad hom mid argument there!

People who blame others for their own failures are always going to be failures.

Regarding the being born rich vs getting rich on your own argument. Probably the best example is China. NONE of the new millionaires and billionaires of China were born rich. They all got rich on their own.

link to this info? i'd like to read more about this.

As an attorney for a fortune 50 company told me a few months ago... "You can't expect a sane conversation with an insane person... a rational conversation with an irrational person or a reasonable conversation with an unreasonable person."

I think it's very certain that there is no reasonable discourse to be had with someone who is mentally ill and who should be both heavily medicated and under psychiatric care.

Use your head.

So are you saying you just made that statistic up?

Because it's not only wrong, it's ignorant and you're ignorant for spreading stupid shit like that. Go do some reading and instead of making things up maybe you can base your arguments on facts.

Well I'm still calling your bullshit and I'm sitting here with a $100,000,000 domain!

Not smart.:1orglaugh
Invent a fake statement then say something stupid to keep the thread going by all means.
I am sure you will be able to find a couple rags to riches stories in China. But you goto realize that a bowl of rice with a little meat on the side was a luxury not so long ago for the Chinese and now the new luxury is a blackmarket Iphone Knock off.

Truth be known though China is still heavily poverty stricken and most regions of it are undeveloped.
Developed regions are nothing more than a slave labor camp paying pennies.

Read up on the cultural revolution and what it did to the rich. China didn't start its way towards a capitalist economy until '78.

But please, if you have sources that disprove my statement, feel free to point me right. If I'm wrong I'll admit it, one can always learn something new.