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Vendzilla 06-17-2011 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by epitome (Post 18222459)
I can't stand Vendzilla, but that's a little ridiculous. Do you feel that way about all of the armed forces? If so, I hope they remember that if the time ever comes that you need protecting.

Thanx for backing me up, sorry about not feeling all warm a fuzzy about me, LOL

LedZep 06-17-2011 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by epitome (Post 18222459)
I can't stand Vendzilla, but that's a little ridiculous. Do you feel that way about all of the armed forces? If so, I hope they remember that if the time ever comes that you need protecting.


Well its a fact that people that were abused as children end up either being cops or joining the military to gain a sense of empowerment over their lives that was never there before.

PornoMonster 06-17-2011 10:21 AM

I figured it out,
Let the cops beat them down, throw them to the ground, tase them, and even shoot them. When they do not do what the nice officer says. To bad the Police didn't "FIND" a way to give a time out!

LedZep 06-17-2011 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 18222501)
Now your saying I abused my daughter? Please meet me somewhere and introduce yourself!

What a fucking retard


Seems your answer to everything is violence, eh? You may have spent your life scaring little kids tough guy but your drunk ass doesnt scare me.

Deej 06-17-2011 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by LedZep (Post 18222512)
Well its a fact that people that were abused as children end up either being cops or joining the military to gain a sense of empowerment over their lives that was never there before.

THis is just as true as its a fact that priests go through their schooling and "preacherhood" just so they can rape little boys...

Vendzilla 06-17-2011 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by LedZep (Post 18222512)
Well its a fact that people that were abused as children end up either being cops or joining the military to gain a sense of empowerment over their lives that was never there before.

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Originally Posted by LedZep (Post 18222520)
Seems your answer to everything is violence, eh? You may have spent your life scaring little kids tough guy but your drunk ass doesnt scare me.

You're a fucking moron, I don't want to scare you!


Putting you on ignore, you're not worth my time

19teenporn 06-17-2011 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by beaner (Post 18221611)

When I was 10, I had a DS80 motorcycle and I rode that fucker all over my town. I had 1 rule... be back by dinner time.

And here you are, posting in a porn forum.....

Cyndalie 06-17-2011 10:40 AM

I take it you haven't heard of the new parenting styles like, and I shit you not, "Democratic parenting".

Agent 488 06-17-2011 10:42 AM

the parents that beat their kids in public are always some type of mongoloid low iq retard.

SallyRand 06-17-2011 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by beaner (Post 18221611)
I'm just at a loss for words when it comes to today. People want to put there child in bed with them and pamper them till they explode.

Parents walking children to the bus stop till they are teens.

You can't really raise your child anymore... actually rules you never agreed to does.

Do you know that schools know make kids keep journals in school? Well maybe not the norm but my daughter is made to along with her class mates.

When I was 10, I had a DS80 motorcycle and I rode that fucker all over my town. I had 1 rule... be back by dinner time. If I wasn't, I had to make up a really good excuse.

Not sure what inspired me to post this but it had something to do with the canuks rioting. WTF... you have things so laid back but still can't handle yourself so you try and riot.

It's not a few bad apples... it is the general mindset of people who have been pampered all there life. I think there is a law in Canada that you can't spank your child... not sure... I know it exists though.

So, tighten up your reigns, grab a set ("of balls"), and stop acting like a pompous prick, know it all.

ya know?

"Spanking" is physical abuse.

Parents who physically abuse their children should be prosecuted, have parental rights severed and the children placed somewhere so that they can be treated like humans beings instead of punching bags.

Just so you don't freak out, swatting a kid's hand away from a hot stove is not physical abuse.

Beating the kid with a hand, fist or belt is.

MediaGuy 06-17-2011 10:48 AM

To me it was always an extreme very last-measure, when the attempts to see how far the child can push the parent see no end and it's complete indifference to any discipline. Think it might have happened once or twice.

The riots have nothing to do with bad parenting, unless it's the kind of macho tough-ass bullshit demeanour bullies always grow into after failing the jock stage in senior high.

That goes double for those who were only disciplined by spanking and other physical measures.


:D

MediaGuy 06-17-2011 10:50 AM

Fiddy spanks to JFK HAH.

:D

JamesGw 06-17-2011 10:52 AM

I think spanking, to some degree, can be an effective form of punishment, but it's really not the best way to go about things. If the kid's completely out of control sure, maybe. But if he just did something wrong, you're better off approaching it with a more cool, but firm head.

atom 06-17-2011 11:06 AM

Its easy for people here who have no kids to chime in on the subject. Once you do let us know your thoughts....

Growing up my mom used my grandpa's army belt from WW2 to hit me when I did shit wrong and always as a last resort. Needless to say I didnt want to put my kid through that.

I can count on one hand how many times I spanked my kid who is now 15. It all happened when he was young - 2-5 years old. Never to hurt him physically, more of a swat to show him I was serious and it hurt his feelings more then anything.

If you are gonna spank your kids, never do it out of anger or while angry. Wait until the situation calms. If you are pissed you are going to hit him/her harder then you meant to. That is a fact!

PR_Glen 06-17-2011 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Itchy (Post 18222422)
That works great till the kids get older :(
My kids till the age of 10 - 11 knew that when my voice raised it meant i was pissed and they were in shit, but after 10yrs old it was yea right dad raises his voice and that's it they knew they weren't going to get the belt or the back of the hand.

Also the school telling them your parents can't hit you .... doesn't help

no the children I have done this with successfully were my niece and nephew who were both between 11 and 14 when they lived with me.. if they are treating you like a pushover that's because you are being a pushover... lay down the law and don't be nice about it and you will get a better response...

My nephew tried that 'your not aloud to hit us' shit at first, but I told him flat out that I don't give a shit about the rules so you'd better listen to me when living here. I have never lifted a finger towards him but because he knows i stand my ground hard he will not even try now. It took some work though, because my sister is a SERIOUS pushover so getting them to commit to things wasn't easy. They are getting there though.

RebelR 06-17-2011 11:12 AM

I believe that a little tap on the ass when warranted isn't a bad thing. I also remember in grade 1, that a kid got the strap, from the Vice Principle. Just knowing that option was available to them was enough to keep most kids on their best behavior. Not too long after that though, they banned corporal punishment. That was in the 80's.

I think that a sting on the behind goes away pretty quickly, but for those 15 mins, it makes you ponder what you did wrong.

The biggest issue with parents these days, is that they are far too busy to effectively parent and merely give in to their kids after the kids grind them down. Send them to their room, no problem, they have computers, gaming consoles, TV's.

KickAssJesse 06-17-2011 11:13 AM

you can't?
spanking is a needed tool to discipline YOUR child/children

bean-aid 06-17-2011 01:34 PM

Hey... thanks for the replies.

Does anybody WANT to really hit their kid? No, most don't, I don't. I am talking about the pussy whipped mentality of society today in general. If my kid misbehaves to a point I feel a smack on the ass is warranted that is what I feel is needed.

Anybody who grew up before cell phones knows what I'm talking about. If your kid can't walk to the bus stop by themselves when they are 9, 10, 11 years old what the fuck are we teaching them? You teach them to be independent and smart. Shit does happen, but to constantly bask in the tragedy of the next town over and smother your kid, they will grow up introverted and without the knowledge of independence.

People who object to a smack on the ass should go back to mommy and suck some booby... pussies. Harden up and don't make our next generation a bunch of wimps.

BlackCrayon 06-17-2011 01:41 PM

what i really don't get is that its commonly accepted that hitting animals isn't the right way to teach them anything but hitting children is supposed to be? doesn't make sense.

Agent 488 06-17-2011 01:44 PM

beating kids never solved anything. it just created the shit parents that raise the demons you see running wild today.

the kids today = products of their beaten parents.

Sly 06-17-2011 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 18223148)
beating kids never solved anything. it just created the shit parents that raise the demons you see running wild today.

the kids today = products of their beaten parents.

How does that work? Current punishment, as in no spankings, is really pretty new. Most of our grandparents, a good portion of our parents, and everyone before that employed spankings. Are the kids of today saints because so many of them are not getting spanked?

I think you can raise a child just fine with no spankings, but it does take work and discipline. It's a lot easier to give a quick smack on the ass versus listen to your child scream for 30 minutes while they sit in the corner.

The spanking argument is usually overplayed. There is a very large difference between spanking and abuse, somehow they are constantly lumped together.

sicone 06-17-2011 01:51 PM

I love all the opinions of those who don't know the difference between spanking, hitting and abuse so they just lump it all into 1 category. I guess I'm just a dumb ape since I discipline my child and spank him when needed.

The lack of discipline for kids these days is a major reason for the problems with so many of them, that and every Dr is quick to prescribe drugs for any kid who may or may not have a actual medical issue which only leads to issues down the road for that child and children they will have.

Agent 488 06-17-2011 01:54 PM

parents beat their kids all the time, just not in public that much any more.

thus explains their behavior in public = abused children.

Vendzilla 06-17-2011 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by sicone (Post 18223166)
I love all the opinions of those who don't know the difference between spanking, hitting and abuse so they just lump it all into 1 category. I guess I'm just a dumb ape since I discipline my child and spank him when needed.

The lack of discipline for kids these days is a major reason for the problems with so many of them, that and every Dr is quick to prescribe drugs for any kid who may or may not have a actual medical issue which only leads to issues down the road for that child and children they will have.

Good point, when I was a kid, you didn't have kids on drugs. Well, at least the prescribed kind

BlackCrayon 06-17-2011 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by sicone (Post 18223166)
I love all the opinions of those who don't know the difference between spanking, hitting and abuse so they just lump it all into 1 category. I guess I'm just a dumb ape since I discipline my child and spank him when needed.

The lack of discipline for kids these days is a major reason for the problems with so many of them, that and every Dr is quick to prescribe drugs for any kid who may or may not have a actual medical issue which only leads to issues down the road for that child and children they will have.

what is it about spanking that creates a "good" child?

sicone 06-17-2011 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 18223148)
the kids today = products of their beaten parents.

I can see what you are saying here and can somewhat agree with you... Those parents who were "beaten" as kids for not behaving now have kids and they don't believe in discipline and that their kids will obey them because they don't get spanked and are treated as equals right?

But lets consider this, the ones who are now parents learned right and wrong along with respect among many other things through discipline and they went on to grow up, graduate high school, get and hold a job and basically how to be a productive member of society.

Now they have kids and don't want their kids to feel the back of a hand. These are the kids that we read about today, 12 yr old kids gang raping 8 yr old kid. 13 and convicted of a triple homicide in a drive by shooting or worse yet, the victim of that homicide because they were left to make their own decisions and knew they would face no consequences from their parents or anyone else. They have a complete lack of respect for any type of authority, be it a parent, law enforcement, teacher or even the old neighbor from down the street.

sicone 06-17-2011 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 18223180)
what is it about spanking that creates a "good" child?

Respect of the rules that govern society

SallyRand 06-17-2011 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 18223148)
beating kids never solved anything. it just created the shit parents that raise the demons you see running wild today.

the kids today = products of their beaten parents.

What you wrote!

SallyRand 06-17-2011 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by sicone (Post 18223166)
I love all the opinions of those who don't know the difference between spanking, hitting and abuse so they just lump it all into 1 category. I guess I'm just a dumb ape since I discipline my child and spank him when needed.

The lack of discipline for kids these days is a major reason for the problems with so many of them, that and every Dr is quick to prescribe drugs for any kid who may or may not have a actual medical issue which only leads to issues down the road for that child and children they will have.

Tell us, O Child Beater, just how it is the beaten kid knows the difference!

bean-aid 06-17-2011 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SallyRand (Post 18223209)
What you wrote!

I don't want to throw stones here but aren't you the one who posed as a women on gfy?

This kind of supports my point, no?

BlackCrayon 06-17-2011 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by sicone (Post 18223196)
Now they have kids and don't want their kids to feel the back of a hand. These are the kids that we read about today, 12 yr old kids gang raping 8 yr old kid. 13 and convicted of a triple homicide in a drive by shooting or worse yet, the victim of that homicide because they were left to make their own decisions and knew they would face no consequences from their parents or anyone else. They have a complete lack of respect for any type of authority, be it a parent, law enforcement, teacher or even the old neighbor from down the street.

oh please, that has nothing to do with spanking but a lack of parenting and caring in general. typically kids that get involved in shit that bad have drunk or addicted parents who couldn't give a shit about them.

BlackCrayon 06-17-2011 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by sicone (Post 18223200)
Respect of the rules that govern society

Maybe we should be doling out spanking as punishment instead of jail time.

sicone 06-17-2011 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SallyRand (Post 18223212)
Tell us, O Child Beater, just how it is the beaten kid knows the difference!

Now I'm a child beater.. Whatever dude. But to answer you, they learn the difference of right and wrong and what happens when you break the rules.


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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 18223221)
oh please, that has nothing to do with spanking but a lack of parenting and caring in general. typically kids that get involved in shit that bad have drunk or addicted parents who couldn't give a shit about them.

Agreed, but is discipline not a part of parenting?


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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 18223224)
Maybe we should be doling out spanking as punishment instead of jail time.

I guess you aren't aware of the difference between a child and a adult. A child is still learning things such as right and wrong, if not taught they have no clue that there are consequences for their actions. A adult should know the difference and if they chose to break the law then they are aware of the consequences such as jail time

sheken 06-17-2011 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 18222001)
It's lazy. Rather than think of how to teach your child not to do something, you hit it until it learns.

As 488 said, we're humans, not animals.

Don't take this the wrong way, but we are animals.

Pretty much all the posts here are conveying that you should appeal to logic instead of applying feelings since we, intelligent humans can 'understand'. That's all a bunch of bullshit in my opinion.

When's the last time you were able to convince a woman logically to fall in love with you ?

Humans do not work according to logic, no matter how much some of you are trying to push this agenda.

We work on feelings: love, hate, fear, etc. It's what we respond to the best.

Sly 06-17-2011 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 18223224)
Maybe we should be doling out spanking as punishment instead of jail time.

Sounds good to me, think of all the money saved!

Itchy 06-17-2011 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 18222712)
no the children I have done this with successfully were my niece and nephew who were both between 11 and 14 when they lived with me.. if they are treating you like a pushover that's because you are being a pushover... lay down the law and don't be nice about it and you will get a better response...

My nephew tried that 'your not aloud to hit us' shit at first, but I told him flat out that I don't give a shit about the rules so you'd better listen to me when living here. I have never lifted a finger towards him but because he knows i stand my ground hard he will not even try now. It took some work though, because my sister is a SERIOUS pushover so getting them to commit to things wasn't easy. They are getting there though.

Well good luck ;) I was too much of a pushover for them :upsidedow

Boy is almost 17 now and will graduate in Jan/12 6 months ahead of the normal
but that took 3 years of fighting him all the way lol making a kid do 2 hrs of homework 5 days a week without caving in lol

It can be done with out hitting them BUT god dam they can sure piss you off! :helpme

Vendzilla 06-17-2011 02:29 PM

I wonder how many of these posters that are against spanking have kids?

And how many that do have kids, that have them on medication or seeing a therapist?

ThunderBalls 06-17-2011 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 18223251)
I wonder how many of these posters that are against spanking have kids?

And how many that do have kids, that have them on medication or seeing a therapist?



I have kids and have never spanked or hit them. Kids learn to respect you by treating them fairly, hitting them just makes them hate your ass when they get older. Having said that I have to admit I do love it when some mom beats the hell out of her brat in public, doesnt happen nearly enough though.

SallyRand 06-17-2011 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by sicone (Post 18223233)
Now I'm a child beater.. Whatever dude. But to answer you, they learn the difference of right and wrong and what happens when you break the rules.




Agreed, but is discipline not a part of parenting?




I guess you aren't aware of the difference between a child and a adult. A child is still learning things such as right and wrong, if not taught they have no clue that there are consequences for their actions. A adult should know the difference and if they chose to break the law then they are aware of the consequences such as jail time

Yes, indeed!

The child learns that if he/she "breaks the rules", even if it is the first time the child has "broken" a rule and therefore may not have known that the rule existed, that Mommy or Daddy will kick the shit out of the child.

Of course the child then holds lifelong resentments against the abuser and more than likely will become an abuser him/herself.

Now THAT is "parenting" at its best!

There is something inherently wrong with a society which considers "discipline" to be physical abuse.

sicone 06-17-2011 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SallyRand (Post 18223275)
Yes, indeed!

Yes Indeed I am a child beater? By all means, please post proof of this serious accusation. You know the rules dude.

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Originally Posted by SallyRand (Post 18223275)
There is something inherently wrong with a society which considers "discipline" to be physical abuse.

There is something wrong with a person who can't differentiate discipline and physical abuse.


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