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The Porn Nerd 07-05-2011 07:36 PM

I do not trust .xxx
Something else going on there
something sinister

Brujah 07-05-2011 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 18262850)
Nope . . .

This should be good enough for anyone who might have been wondering. Baddog isn't the kind of guy to answer directly with a lie. He'd be more inclined to avoid the answer, or if he was involved, he'd defend his relationship to ICM.

baddog 07-05-2011 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 18262886)
This should be good enough for anyone who might have been wondering. Baddog isn't the kind of guy to answer directly with a lie. He'd be more inclined to avoid the answer, or if he was involved, he'd defend his relationship to ICM.

I read this out loud to goodgirl. She laughed and said, "yep."

InfoGuy 07-05-2011 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 18262665)
Baddog, the point is making sure nobody can misuse my trademarks.. If that causes an issue for icm, what the fuck do I care? Did they ask me before inventing .xxx?

So where does that leave your new acquisitions from Twistys - SexTube.com and GayTube.com? Both domains would likely be considered generic terms and not eligible for trademark protection. Therefore, they can't be registered during the .XXX Sunrise period and they can't be permanently blocked by paying ICM Registry's one-time fee. Prior to your ultimatum, the most likely scenario would've been ICM Registry auctioning off the domains to the highest bidder.

porno jew 07-05-2011 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 18262850)
Nope . . .

you friends with anyone associated with ics/xxx?

InfoGuy 07-05-2011 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 18262780)
thats not an argument anymore than arguing that microsoft.org has "less value" than microsoft.com. infringement is infringement...end of story. its not about what could be argued to be the value of a domain at all. you should know that Manwin is entitled to statutory damages - 100k per instance (maximum), i believe. the value of the domain is irrelevant.

further, registrars agree all the time to block TM domains from being registered.

According to S.1255 -- Anticybersquatting Consumer Protection Act, which was passed as a U.S. law, the penalty for willful registration or use of a trademark in a domain is subject to a judgment of up to $300k per infringing domain plus legal fees.

Quote:

SEC. 3. TRADEMARK REMEDIES.

(a) RECOVERY FOR VIOLATION OF RIGHTS- Section 35 of the Act entitled `An Act to provide for the registration and protection of trade-marks used in commerce, to carry out the provisions of certain international conventions, and for other purposes', approved July 5, 1946, (commonly referred to as the `Trademark Act of 1946') (15 U.S.C. 1117) is amended by adding at the end the following:

`(d)(1) In this subsection, the term `Internet' has the meaning given that term in section 230(f)(1) of the Communications Act of 1934 (47 U.S.C. 230(f)(1)).

`(2)(A) In a case involving the registration or use of an identifier described in subparagraph (B), the plaintiff may elect, at any time before final judgment is rendered by the trial court, to recover, instead of actual damages and profits under subsection (a)--

`(i) an award of statutory damages in the amount of--

`(I) not less than $1,000 or more than $100,000 per trademark per identifier, as the court considers just; or

`(II) if the court finds that the registration or use of the registered trademark as an identifier was willful, not less than $3,000 or more than $300,000 per trademark per identifier, as the court considers just; and

`(ii) full costs and reasonable attorney's fees.

InfoGuy 07-05-2011 08:45 PM

I'm not a lawyer, but Manwin probably can't get U.S. trademark protection for brands such as JugFuckers, Big Tits at Work / at School / In Sports / In Uniform, Jizz on my Jugs, et al, due to the scandalous clause I've brought up in other recent ICM Registry / .XXX threads. In that case, Manwin would likely be forced to pony up money to bid at auction to protect these brands and pay the annual .XXX renewal fees.

baddog 07-05-2011 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18262967)
you friends with anyone associated with ics/xxx?

I hide nothing. Now, why don't you do the same? Too paranoid from the drug use?

porno jew 07-05-2011 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 18262997)
I hide nothing. Now, why don't you do the same? Too paranoid from the drug use?

post proof i am on drugs or ban.

baddog 07-05-2011 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18263005)
post proof i am on drugs or ban.

Go for it.

NewbieNudes 07-05-2011 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 18262610)
We are not asking for the domains for free. This is in the letter in case they for some reason can not block it, we want them to block them by registering them. We wil not use the domains. They are a useless hassle.

This is great news, well played Manwin.

When large sites don't show up on .xxx that prevents the surfer being mislead that "all good porns sites are on .xxx".

I think it's vitally important, that even those that do succumb to buying their .xxx name equivlent don't use it, so the adult center of gravity never shifts to .xxx.

:2 cents:

Caligari 07-05-2011 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 18263088)
Seriously? Wake up because you can't be that naive? Manwin, uses Xbiz as a tool to release a statement that Manwin will not have their intellectual property infringed. Then manwin themselves, uses safe-harbor to infringe on content owners intellectual property as content is uploaded to their tubes as they profit until the content owner notifies them to take it down.

ICM is doing the same fucking thing Manwin is doing, accept with domains and exchange the world safeharbor with sunrise. As mentioned, ICM has put a system in place to prevent trademarked terms from being registered as .xxx. Does Manwin have a system in place to insure content owners intellectual property does not get uploaded? Yes, it called a DMCA notice.

You've just contradicted your own statement. You have just stated what everyone thinks about Manwin and .XXX so how you think any kind of "positive spin" charade is going to work DEFIES LOGIC.

People see through this shit and no amount of PR is going to change that. We know what Manwin does and we sure as hell know what ICM is up to.

You do. You just said it, and I know what you just said so back to the original point.
NO this is not going to send clients streaming to ICM.

Any amount of exposure for ICM on this board is going to draw the same conclusions.
Why?
Because its the TRUTH.

The Porn Nerd 07-05-2011 10:36 PM

Manwin is smart. Getting behind .xxx would just make them vulnerable to seclusion.

NewNick 07-06-2011 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 18262702)
.Co, .biz and so on is not a Tld targeted to my industry

My industry ?

I think this is a cue for a Freudian Slip joke

Two men are talking in the bar sharing their sob stories.

One man says, "I had the worst Freudian Slip the other day."

The other man responds, "What is a Freudian Slip?"

"You know, it's when you mean to say one thing, but you say something else that reveals what you are really thinking about. Like the other day I was at the airport and this really beautiful lady was helping me. Instead of asking her for 'two tickets to Pittsburgh', I asked her for 'to Pickets to Tittsburgh."

he second replies, "Oh, now I know what you are talking about. It's like the other day when I was having breakfast with my wife. I wanted her to pass me the Orange Juice, and instead I said, "YOU RUINED MY LIFE!"

InfoGuy 07-06-2011 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 18262745)
Brujah nailed it. This was explained in detail in the Ynot panel video. I found the article pointless, accept for the fact Manwin was covering their own ass as they try for a positive spin to better their own negative image.

I can not understand why people keep feeding ICM with more exposure because they have clearly laid out their game plan. Again, you don't judge exposure for success, you weigh it. All you people are doing is driving more new clients their way when you show potential concern.

You seem to be convinced that all publicity is good publicity for ICM Registry / .XXX. If their evil intentions are exposed, so that more potential buyers steer clear of them, how is that beneficial to them?

If the Food and Drug Administration says there's been an huge outbreak of e. coli poisoning at McDonalds, and news agencies across the world are disseminating that information to the masses, is that supposed to cause a surge of customers to go buy Big Macs?

JFK 07-06-2011 02:36 AM

this is still going ?:winkwink:

Black All Through 07-06-2011 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Caligari (Post 18261556)
Whatever one thinks of Manwin they definitely have the $$ to really fuck with .XXX which is good.
Kind of like Jason Vs. Freddy;)

:2 cents:

nico-t 07-06-2011 03:29 AM

can we discuss the number and place of toilets in the Manwin headquarters again? The last thread about it didn't really have a clear outcome.

Nathan 07-06-2011 03:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 18263088)
ICM is doing the same fucking thing Manwin is doing, accept with domains and exchange the world safeharbor with sunrise. As mentioned, ICM has put a system in place to prevent trademarked terms from being registered as .xxx. Does Manwin have a system in place to insure content owners intellectual property does not get uploaded? Yes, it called a DMCA notice.

The system we have in place is called Vobile. Also, safe harbor and sunrise is hardly the same thing. BTW, using infringing, stealing and safe harbor or dmca in the same sentence makes little sense. Just shows how little you understand this.

MaDalton 07-06-2011 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by pornopete (Post 18262259)
Its about principle

your irony detector is broken... :glugglug

Nathan 07-06-2011 05:26 AM

Pass on you?? You clearly do not know much about me! Lol...

pornguy 07-06-2011 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18261672)
This is the best part:



Manwin is stepping up and saying "We aren't paying this. It's extortion. Nice.

Thats one way to look at it.

CaptainHowdy 07-06-2011 06:06 AM

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-yxKa4o2OHi...e_children.jpg

ShellShocked 07-06-2011 06:11 AM

In walks Joan...

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Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 18263583)


u-Bob 07-06-2011 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 18262844)
Odd that you think I think you are talking about me. I had a feeling you were talking shit just like that u-bob character. If you [or him] knew anything I doubt you would hold back.

Ok, let's get this straight once and for all.

As most people around here know:
- I've been fighting this .xxx for a very long time.
- I've never been afraid to speak my mind.
- I'm not the kind of person that starts fake drama all over the place.

Some time ago I started noticing something odd. I started getting the impression that you (who in the past has always been anti .xxx) were getting more tolerant towards the ICM Registry. Whether or not this was your intention is impossible to tell. You're the only one who can answer that. But based on your posts, that was the impression I got.

At the same time I noticed a certain hostility from your part towards people who used humor (comments like "I heard all .xxx are filled with malware") to fight the .xxx or people who made certain errors in thinking when writing their anti .xxx posts. At the time I didn't think much of this. I attributed it to a difference in style. Personally I applaud any attempt to stop the ICM and if someone makes an error I try to correct it. Just like I did in goodgirl's thread about the danger of the ICM monopolizing search in the .xxx tld. You have, let's face it, at times displayed the tendency to "bark" (pun intended) at those posts you deem to be "simpleminded". Again, it is possible that this was never your intention. however, that is the impression I got.

Last week, when chatting on icq about the .xxx tld, 2 other GFY'ers brought up the exact same points. And 1 of them asked me if I knew something about a rumor he'd heard. The rumor being that you had been approached by the ICM to fill the gap created when Chris 2/3.0 left. My first reaction was : this can't be true. Or maybe they did approach him but he surely must have told them to go fuck themselves.

Around the same time I got a 3rd icq msg about the same rumor. I discreetly asked around. I emailed 2 people who've been long time members of this industry and fiercely anti-.xxx. Both of them replied that they didn't know anything about this and that they'd find it hard to believe. I also contacted 5 people on icq. 2 of them I basically told "this is the rumor, know anything about?". The 3 others I asked more indirectly: "any news on the .xxx front?".

Out of those 7 people I contacted (2email, 5 icq), 2 replied that they had picked up a rumor about you, 1 other didn't know anything about a rumor but did mention what he described to be your "change of heart".

At that time I started to get a bit worried. To be honest, I never like your style, but I always respected your efforts to fight the .xxx tld and I was impressed when you took the time and made the effort to go to san Fransisco to be one of the few to actually protest there.

Part of me didn't want to believe the rumors. Another part of me is always a bit suspicious, so you could summarize my position at that time as: "I hope it's not true."

Around that time I started a new gfy thread asking if the ICM Registry had hired a gfy-er to do its dirty work. One reason for this was that the way Chris 2/3.0 and NALEM got shitlisted all over the place for doing business with the ICM and that this thread would serve as a warning/message to whoever might be considering taking money from the ICM next. The other reason was to find out if anyone knew anything about the rumor that the ICM had approached you. In that thread I never once said anything about you or the rumor about you.

Funny thing is that some of the replies in that thread could be seen as references to you and 1 person later contacted me asking "Who is it? Is it baddog?". I replied: "I hope not".

To be honest, I still wasn't sure what to make of it. Lots of rumors, no proof...

At one point you made an anti-.xxx remark and I replied that it was great to see that you still were anti-.xxx and that the rumors must false then.

At that point i really thought, ok, he's still on the good side.

However, ever since then you have continued to display a certain hostility. You never once asked what this rumor was (I never posted it) either on gfy or on icq. Did you already know about this rumor?

So to summarize: personally I don't think you are working for the ICM. However, the attitude you have been displaying lately has obviously given the impression to some that you are. Your refusal to clearly state that you are not working for the ICM (either directly or indirectly) when people allude to it, may not be the best way to handle this. And calling everyone who says something you don't like a simpleton or an idiot certainly isn't.

baddog 07-06-2011 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 18263634)
blah blah blah

Why the fuck would I care what you thought?

DamageX 07-06-2011 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 18263753)
Why the fuck would I care what you thought?

Getting touchy, are we?

Caligari 07-06-2011 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 18263471)
Because in causes discussions like this one. This thread caused counter points to discuss all possible motives of ICM and to segregate hearsay/rumors from facts. Currently, when it comes to ICM there's still lot's of "ifs" and what "could" happen, but what is fact, free tubes killed this industry.

Now this leaves you three choices and that is to sellout (slaughtered), become a roman (build your own micro-tubes or support role for the emperors) and live off the crumbs of the conquering Romans, or flee the beautiful city of porn and regroup elsewhere.

I would choose to flee and run the risk of regrouping with a well financed foe. The next strategy would be to attack and cut the supply lines and encircle the Roman Porn City and then starve them to death.

But that's just me because I'd rather be a Lion for a day then a sheep for a 100.


Do you have something against Romans;)

But really if the whole story was that free tubes killed this industry, you might as well close down GFY and simply put "Free Tubes Killed This Industry" on the front page and be done with it.

IMO the worst thing that can happen is that people forget, so keeping open discussion of these current issues is not only good it's absolutely necessary.

cherrylula 07-06-2011 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 18262710)
Right, For YOUR business you need a whole new extension, like maybe .theft, or .leach :1orglaugh

LOL awesome

cherrylula 07-06-2011 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by SlammedCash (Post 18262869)
This coming from a guy who steals other webmasters content and profits from it, what a joke.

:1orglaugh funny huh.

Jman 07-06-2011 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 18262889)
I read this out loud to goodgirl. She laughed and said, "yep."

How about you let us know when she sneezes, that would be fun :upsidedow

MrCain 07-06-2011 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 18263753)
Why the fuck would I care what you thought?

Are you working for ICMRegistry, yes or no?

baddog 07-06-2011 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by MrCain (Post 18263888)
Are you working for ICMRegistry, yes or no?

Try opening your eyes.

MrCain 07-06-2011 08:25 AM

Yes or no?

Tjeezers 07-06-2011 08:36 AM

LTD`s, STD`s, i thought it was all the same.

Freaky_Akula 07-06-2011 09:20 AM

Baddog, answer the question. Or do you have something to hide?

baddog 07-06-2011 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Freaky_Akula (Post 18264028)
Baddog, answer the question. Or do you have something to hide?

You need to stop being so obvious who you are, u-bob.

Herd 07-06-2011 02:45 PM

A few big studios stand to make a killing if .XXX becomes mandatory. At the same time, a few big companies stand to lose an enormous amount of money because of .XXX.
Just hope those big companies, that could end up losing most of their profits, if .XXX becomes law, will not allow that to happen.

GetSCORECash 07-06-2011 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Herd (Post 18264741)
A few big studios stand to make a killing if .XXX becomes mandatory.

Can you name them? Is the answer the studios that buy the domains now?

arock10 07-06-2011 03:11 PM

cool thread


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