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purescotty 07-22-2011 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vjo (Post 18299108)
[email protected]

I usually do call but I got 31 mins on my cell and no landline anymore to save money. So I didnt want to.

Anyhow it is all settled now. Thanks for your help. Sorry I went to the boards but I fig if i didnt I would never get thru to you. Maybe I was wrong there.

Anyhow thanks again for your help and sorry for any probs. I know NAM has always been a good payer. I just feel when my traffic to you is low now that maybe you guys felt why pay him. Times are tight all over. All this just makes one go nuts. Thanks for understanding. :)

I am glad you are on the west coast. Not quite as late there. :)

Money earned is money to be paid, period. You just caught me on a day that I was gone, no worries. And if you ever had a payment issue with us in the past by all means let me know.

Thanks, bedtime for me now.

mamaliga 07-22-2011 12:11 AM


Vjo 07-22-2011 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Konda (Post 18299109)
I don't know Vjo, but it seems like he's been marked at multiple programs as fraud, so there might be something up?

In addition, the guy has a join date in 2002, so he has been in the industry at least since 2002 and maybe longer. How on earth is it possible to be broke?
If you were around in 2002 and are broke you did definitely something very wrong...

I am not broke just things are very tight. How is it possible? Ask Paul Markham what has happened to this industry. :) I am making more money every month just hit a low point.

I prob did something wrong but making $1100 a month is not terrible and it is going up.

In Oct 2007 Google Adwords cancelled me as i was too agressive I guess. This after 4 years of developing cmpns cut my income by 85%. So shit happens. Maybe your best 2 sponsors have something happen? Things can happen.

It then took 3 years to build it back to 1000+ a month.

And no I am not a cheater. I have used 200+ sponsors since 1997 and been paid by all but 3. That is hardly a cheater.

Oh contrare my friend. I got cheated by 3. Not the cheater. The cheated.

Vjo 07-22-2011 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by purescotty (Post 18299116)
Money earned is money to be paid, period. You just caught me on a day that I was gone, no worries. And if you ever had a payment issue with us in the past by all means let me know.

Thanks, bedtime for me now.

Thanks Scott. Have a good night.

Vjo 07-22-2011 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tjeezers (Post 18299111)
I skipped page 2, have busy day
paid or still unpaid?

Paid... :)

Vjo 07-22-2011 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cutedimples (Post 18299069)
Hi,

I dont know the whole situation but I hate it when people promise me something and dont do it. (Some might come back w a lame excuse) Giving false hope and wasting someone's time is a NO-NO! Words are cheap for some. It shows the lack of responsibility of the individuals.

Hope everything works out for you! :)

x

Thanks. All fine now. :)

was that an x for little OLD me. :) Thanks. :)

Vjo 07-22-2011 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrMaxwell (Post 18298896)
Yeah.. I am in the exact same spot... got a late check from a sponsor, has happened before... last time went on 2-3 months for TWO different checks (last year)

Of course this time it just happens that my grandmother (about an hour away) needs groceries NOW and I had to take some extreme measures just to get her fed

Nothing in the WORLD pisses me off worse than paying me late. I've caused huge problems for those who have, in life. This sponsor is full of people I respect and all but love, so I am not going to the boards with it (I rarely EVER do.. I think AWE is the only sponsor I've ever spoken up against on the board).

And then after all I went through last time when they refused to expedite the check: I am told, I may end up having to pay a $25 fee this time!!!! I love them but if that is how it's gonna be, I'm done with them. I have got to have my limits.

But yes - I also qualify for all kinds of assistance, am in the "can o beans" situation and they can fucking keep their "aid". When I say I hate the raping thieving government, I MEAN IT, it means they can also keep the money they want to steal from someone to give to ME.

Before I wrap it up I want to respond to this.

Yeah when you dont have a large savings to say the least you plan on checks way in advance. I do a budget every two weeks. Of course you go to the store and plan on spending say 100 max and you spend $130. Now those checks you count on are real important.

When they are late and then when (right or wrong) you cant get ahold of anyone you start to get a lil po'ed.

2 cans pinto beans (drained)
2 cans kidney beans (drained)
2 TBLSP oil
2/3 cup water
1 TBLSP Chile powder
1 tsp garlic powder
1 tsp cumim
1 tsp onion powder
1 tsp sugar
1/2 tsp salt
1/2 tsp pepper
1/4 tsp oregano

Simmer till right consistency :)

$2 will go a ways but beans can get old. :) But not too bad and the best deal there is at the groc store.

Hint: If you are using flour tortillas. Do not use taco sauce. Instead use pure Sour Cream. Goes real good with beans.

Food stamps only give like $115 and for that you got all the govt red tape so I also just let them keep the welfare unless I really needed it then I would take it.

And last, you dont need cable or land line phone service. Get your nut low MM. A penny saved is a penny earned. Sucks to live that way but it can get you by till times get better which they will.

Oracle Porn 07-22-2011 05:37 AM

so was the problem solved?

CaptainHowdy 07-22-2011 05:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vjo (Post 18299125)
Paid... :)

:thumbsup!


NoComments 07-22-2011 06:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GonZo (Post 18298945)
Bumped for the truth.
FREE COTAC ! ! !


Gonzo, I think you owe me some money for Oprano!

Catman, do you wanna be my collection agent?

I'll break my retirement just for you!

How the hell you been, oldtimer?

Dean retired, ScottPB retired, I retired
BECAUSE we PAID OUR BILLS ON TIME EVERY TIME!
and MikeAI is semi-retired (because he had no bills! :) )

We just got back from Germany and on our way to China, life is good!
http://nocomments.com/2/Germany_11/


Sare, thanks man!

CurrentlySober 07-22-2011 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vjo (Post 18298536)
Go stick your lazy ass up someones elses ass, i can assure you mine does not smell too good

You have peaked my interest... :thumbsup

Tell me, how do you wipe? Front to back, or back to front, and what do you use? 1 Ply? 2 Ply? 4 Ply? A gooses neck?

Please let me know :thumbsup

Tom_PM 07-22-2011 06:36 AM

Buy your beans dry. They are much cheaper, and you just soak them overnight then cook them the same. They store for a very long time.

sarettah 07-22-2011 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoComments (Post 18299646)
Sare, thanks man!


NP, Hey, I will be (hopefully) heading for Key Waste end of September for a week or so. You gonna be home or out traveling?



.

atom 07-22-2011 08:55 AM

Bump for fellow MN guy. Vjo, if you ever wanna do lunch its on me :-) What part of the metro are you in?

The Porn Nerd 07-22-2011 10:11 AM

Glad it worked out Vjo!!!!! I hear ya my friend, I totally understand the financial breakdown absolutely! Been there, done that for years.

Will reach out to you via email next week about writing some shite for moi. :))

Vjo 07-22-2011 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oracle Porn (Post 18299582)
so was the problem solved?


Ok quickly answering some posts for I gotta run to town..

Scott took care of it personally and issued a new check. I was a total ass yesterday not only to Scott but on the first page to others. I have mended things with all I hope.

Just lost it. It has been 97-100 for four days was maybe why I wasnt thinking clearly. :)

But I want to say sorry to Scott for this. I totally ASSuMEd the worse. My 5th grade teacher Mr Theison said never do that. I still do tho.

But I did learn there are some REALLY big hearts in the shadows of this board watching me make an ass out of myself most of the time. :)

Just how it goes sometimes guys. At my age I should know better. But let me tell ya, ya never change ya just get older. :)

Love for EVERY poster and emailer who showed support. Even tho there was really no problem. I believe NAM would have got things done in due course.

Vjo 07-22-2011 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 18299593)
:thumbsup!


Love you man, gonna play that vid right now :thumbsup

I need my music. I got a little "heart action" going on today. As we say. Got way to worked up yesterday. Im 54 guys. Not that old but not that young. So I have to get back to posting nice stuff and having fun. :) I prob have high bp. I avoid docs.

Vjo 07-22-2011 01:02 PM

Started after a bunch of Pork Roast I ate yesterday. Bad stuff if ya eat too much. And then go fly off the handle. :)

Got to go.. I will continue soon as i get back.. couple hours.. Gonzo and Saretta.. those were the days and Serge knew how to do biz. I told all this but Serge once overgnighted me 1 Grand just to join the fun. :) Those were the days. Long gone. :)

Be back. MP I see ya. Saving your post.

I LOVE having an MP post waiting for me. :)

F'n guys got style. :) I am so drab and engineer like. He's got style.

Me and Mr Jones? No. Me and Mister Peabody :) :thumbsup



love this song, bringing back the good vibes

i know i play it all the time :)

sarettah 07-22-2011 01:05 PM

Vjo.. In case you didn't recognize him, this was Serge posting at ya :thumbsup

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoComments (Post 18299646)
Gonzo, I think you owe me some money for Oprano!

Catman, do you wanna be my collection agent?

I'll break my retirement just for you!

How the hell you been, oldtimer?

Dean retired, ScottPB retired, I retired
BECAUSE we PAID OUR BILLS ON TIME EVERY TIME!
and MikeAI is semi-retired (because he had no bills! :) )

We just got back from Germany and on our way to China, life is good!
http://nocomments.com/2/Germany_11/


Sare, thanks man!


Vjo 07-22-2011 01:26 PM

Thanks Sarettah, I didnt see that thanks

Love ya Serge. How ya been. I used to download your site with your trips but I got too Jealous. hehe Yes I am very good as the old tmers know at getting my way. :) hehe

BIt embarrassing to not be rich yet but at least I am still here. Barely. :) But doing better. Have more members at my porn sponsors every month so that is good. Had 70 members last month. 90 or so this month.

I am going up but it has been hell as I had some low points. Was down to $4.20 after necessitities one month AFTER the pawn shop. :) 4 20? :) Is that a sign. I have been slowly making more since. I will be fine. Just took me a long time. Few set backs. if it werent for bad luck I would have no luck at all :) cause I had my luck in 1999 :) :thumbsup

ying and yang at work :)

Love ya, more later

Vjo 07-22-2011 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoComments (Post 18299646)
Gonzo, I think you owe me some money for Oprano!

Catman, do you wanna be my collection agent?

I'll break my retirement just for you!

How the hell you been, oldtimer?

Dean retired, ScottPB retired, I retired
BECAUSE we PAID OUR BILLS ON TIME EVERY TIME!
and MikeAI is semi-retired (because he had no bills! :) )

We just got back from Germany and on our way to China, life is good!
http://nocomments.com/2/Germany_11/


Sare, thanks man!

I got more time, called the bank, open late friday. :)

It is so good to hear from ya. Serge brings me LUCK!

Yes I will be your agent. :) Nah not really. I have a strong bark but all this is too much for me. I dont do well under real stress. :)

Dean what can I say but I pay recurrings. :) Dean changed my life (the first time) In 1999 I won $50,000 in a contest from Playgal, Dean's company. $21,000 to tax. :) higher rate then I think.

as Blanche said in A Cat On A Hot Tin Roof "I have long depended on the kindness of strangers" (paraphrased) it seems in retrospect. ANd I thank you all with love.

Anyhow that was a nice check. Took two months but it arrived WITHOUT me going to the boards. :)

Bought:
1) A/c for my office (used to literally sit in a mobile home with a wet tshirt in front of the fan with no a/c in 96-99

2) King sized bed. Wore too many twins out :)

3) too damn many domains which guys are now buying for peanuts after I paid reg fees for eleven years, but no use for them anymore. I listened too much to godfather. :)

4) And some "herbal livations" as i was still "young and dumb" in my late 30s haha :)

Anyhow, Serge overnights me $1000 by fed-ex.

Great times. Next day 10am Knock knock. I still remember it all. Open the fed ex. $1000. Was great. An anon paysite owner also sent me $1000 the next day by fed ex but insisted I say nothing.

Can I say? It was eleven years but I better not he said no altho his prog is essentially long out of biz.

It was a Sunday. February 14 Valentines" I had just went in and rented Madonna Erotica. After watching that hehe I turn on was it YNOT board.

First thing I read was

"was that our Catman"

continuing..

Vjo 07-22-2011 02:09 PM



I had just listened to Clapton's Forever Man..

then Santana's Hold On "hold on nothings the same" came on

I go to Ynot, first thing i read "was that our Catman"

"was that our Catman"

My heart literally sunk. i read some more.

"has anyone tried to call him"

i read no more

I got up and walked into the bathroom in shock

My cassette player continued to play Santana's Hold On

"hold on nothings the same, tell me why you feel this way"

the phone suddenly rings, it is Dean from Playgal :)

I then got on the board and it was the day of my life

the day of my life, i was suddenly in the money :)

love ya Serge and my best wishes always. I will tell this story again I am sure. :)

Take care man and enjoy your travels.. :thumbsup :thumbsup

hold on nothings the same, tell me why you feel this way



i still love this song and thje days of old :thumbsup

MrMaxwell 07-22-2011 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vjo (Post 18299015)
I have a $650 nut before food MP. I am OK. :) No cable. No phone. Dont tell my sponsors hehe

You can survive your lows if your nut is low enough. Only reason I am stilll alive in adult is I have such a low nut in MN. My prop taxes is $82 a year. :) Mobile Home. Nothing fancy here.

I want to tell that to Mr Maxwell cause I know he is having tough times too. Get that nut down MM. If yoiu can survive your low, the only way is up and you can survive and slowly make more and more and still be your own boss.

I also got a $700 prop tax refund on the mobile home lot rent coming in in a month and 1/2. (one of the great things about MN is rent and prop tax refunds) Then I will be rolling in dough. :) That is when I get ahead. :)


Yeah there is one guy on here I use to do favors for who sent me some cash.. Same thing, he wants no publicity for it.... Man, if everyone I've done favors for would repay me I don't know if I'd buy a mansion or a Bentley first ... but like they say.. can't wait for that :winkwink:

Vjo 07-22-2011 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CurrentlySober (Post 18299651)
You have peaked my interest... :thumbsup

Tell me, how do you wipe? Front to back, or back to front, and what do you use? 1 Ply? 2 Ply? 4 Ply? A gooses neck?

Please let me know :thumbsup

Front to back of course :) Charmin Ultra keep the roids away :)

A guy named Tiny called Stern one day. He was 600LBs funny clip I should UL for you all.. I have lost 10 lbs so am only half his weight now 300 at 6'3 :helpme

So I am not on the bed wiping yet. :1orglaugh

There ya go lil bathroom humor for the Sober Meister :)

MrMaxwell 07-22-2011 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vjo (Post 18299121)
I am not broke just things are very tight. How is it possible? Ask Paul Markham what has happened to this industry. :) I am making more money every month just hit a low point.

I prob did something wrong but making $1100 a month is not terrible and it is going up.

In Oct 2007 Google Adwords cancelled me as i was too agressive I guess. This after 4 years of developing cmpns cut my income by 85%. So shit happens. Maybe your best 2 sponsors have something happen? Things can happen.

It then took 3 years to build it back to 1000+ a month.

And no I am not a cheater. I have used 200+ sponsors since 1997 and been paid by all but 3. That is hardly a cheater.

Oh contrare my friend. I got cheated by 3. Not the cheater. The cheated.



The people at google will sometimes listen to you if you contact them about it.. did you try?

Vjo 07-22-2011 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 18299682)
Buy your beans dry. They are much cheaper, and you just soak them overnight then cook them the same. They store for a very long time.

I tried that but that is too much work. For fucks sake I can afford 4 cans for $2 :)

Vjo 07-22-2011 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 18299715)
NP, Hey, I will be (hopefully) heading for Key Waste end of September for a week or so. You gonna be home or out traveling?



.

"only bona fide MORONS have any ill feelings toward ANY board personality, 'cuz after all...it's just board personalities!"
- Serge

That is so true Sarettah, Great quote :thumbsup:thumbsup

Vjo 07-22-2011 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atom (Post 18300020)
Bump for fellow MN guy. Vjo, if you ever wanna do lunch its on me :-) What part of the metro are you in?

Thanks man :thumbsup Maybe someday. I am up near St Cloud. There are at least 3 of us from MN posting here.

Please dont lump us three in with Michelle Bachman :) (unless You like MB :) )

Mutt 07-22-2011 03:04 PM

ohhhhhhhhhhh i remember Catman winning that contest. I always wondered what became of you - had no idea you were Vjo on here.

and Serge makes an appearance too!

fuck we're all getting old and that includes the young pups who were in their 20's. i've lost both parents since getting into this shit - a 47 year old orphan!

Vjo 07-22-2011 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterPeabody (Post 18300226)
Glad it worked out Vjo!!!!! I hear ya my friend, I totally understand the financial breakdown absolutely! Been there, done that for years.

Will reach out to you via email next week about writing some shite for moi. :))

Thanks man. Yeah it gets a bit frustrating to say the least. It could be way worse tho so no prob. Just that everyone is so supportive. makes ya really feel good.

I said "first time" in 1999 in my other post. second time might have been this thread. It showed me a lot.

And yeah I prob could write and get paid for all my ramblings. :)

OK have I got to everyone? :) I better run along for a bit.

This thread has a ton of views.

Once again sorry to NAM. If ya made it this far and didnt see, Scott personally mailed a check to me today to expedite the process. They went out of their way and continue to be one of the best sponsors in the game. :thumbsup :thumbsup

I dont want no ill will towards Scott or NA. I was in the wrong here not them.

I would like to give some ill will to the lil bald postmaster we have whose emplyees keep putting my checks in other's boxes. :)

OK you heard enuff out of me. :)

Thank you ALL for your support and thanks to NA for getting my squared around.

And mostly thanks to the anon person who insisted on sending me a couple bucks. I said no. He sent it anyhow. :) This was not my intention but it shows the real side of adult where there is a lot of love.

Thank you, I love you all.

the road is long, with many a winding turn



that leads us to who, knows where

The Cat is home :) :thumbsup

Vjo 07-22-2011 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 18301048)
ohhhhhhhhhhh i remember Catman winning that contest. I always wondered what became of you - had no idea you were Vjo on here.

and Serge makes an appearance too!

fuck we're all getting old and that includes the young pups who were in their 20's. i've lost both parents since getting into this shit - a 47 year old orphan!

Hey buddy, yes it's me. :) One question been meaning to ask you. Are you the same Mutt who once gave me a couple Howard Stern stations to listen to in 99-2000 or so?

I love Stern and we didnt get him in this market then so some Mutt wrote me with some rogue stations I could get. :)

Maybe it was the other Mutt who actually works now for Stern.

Why Vjo?

I decided after some rough times on boards (guys started to get truly vicious in those days) to become anon on gfy. I owned a domain then..

Manuel Vallejo

Vjo

:)

But I am really Catman at heart and always Catman. :)

Vjo 07-22-2011 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrMaxwell (Post 18301019)
Yeah there is one guy on here I use to do favors for who sent me some cash.. Same thing, he wants no publicity for it.... Man, if everyone I've done favors for would repay me I don't know if I'd buy a mansion or a Bentley first ... but like they say.. can't wait for that :winkwink:

No shit. Yeah there are some great GENEROUS people in this biz. And I hope if this thread brings one thing to us all, it is that.

Mutt 07-22-2011 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vjo (Post 18301100)
Hey buddy, yes it's me. :) One question been meaning to ask you. Are you the same Mutt who once gave me a couple Howard Stern stations to listen to in 99-2000 or so?

I love Stern and we didnt get him in this market then so some Mutt wrote me with some rogue stations I could get. :)

that was me :)

the other 'Mutt' from SternFanNetwork now works for Howard? Doing what?

before those feeds i sent you i had my own Real Audio server and paid a super fan in West Palm Beach to use it to feed me the Stern show.

Mutt 07-22-2011 03:49 PM

my only claim to fame with Howard was I was responsible for one of the most hate filled vicious rants Howard has ever spewed. This was a few years before I was on the Internet.

My AM radio could bring in WFAN in NYC where Don Imus hosted the morning show, one early morning I heard Imus getting cocky because Howard had been laying off him for awhile and Imus had recently married his young trophy wife and Howard was still with his average looking wife Allison - so Imus was making some pretty mean comments about Allison. So I called Bababooey who at that time would pick up the phone, not sure if he still does, Stern show was a lot smaller back in those days and told him what Imus had been saying. 10 minutes later Howard went absolutely insane on Imus for about half an hour. It was a kick to know I had a part in it.

Vjo 07-22-2011 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrMaxwell (Post 18301025)
The people at google will sometimes listen to you if you contact them about it.. did you try?

I have man, I wrote em till I was blue in the face.

I really did nothing wrong. I just was too careless in what words I submitted for approval.

For example I would submit

teenrunaways
teen runaways

They would write me that is not allowed. Well They were keeping track. I did not know this is how it worked. After some more rejections on other paysite kws I had too many rejections and I got axed. They will not chg it.

Banned for life. Pretty severe. I did not realize by taking there time to see if certain words were ok (some were very marginal) that i was building up negative points.

Oh well. I actually lost 90% plus income overnight. I wish I would have been more of a gfy member with more confidence.

Maybe I could have dragged Google to the boards :1orglaugh

Catman vs Google - Do I got your support boys? :)

As Tone Loc says.. Let's do it :)

L-Pink 07-22-2011 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 18301127)
my only claim to fame with Howard was I was responsible for one of the most hate filled vicious rants Howard has ever spewed. This was a few years before I was on the Internet.

My AM radio could bring in WFAN in NYC where Don Imus hosted the morning show, one early morning I heard Imus getting cocky because Howard had been laying off him for awhile and Imus had recently married his young trophy wife and Howard was still with his average looking wife Allison - so Imus was making some pretty mean comments about Allison. So I called Bababooey who at that time would pick up the phone, not sure if he still does, Stern show was a lot smaller back in those days and told him what Imus had been saying. 10 minutes later Howard went absolutely insane on Imus for about half an hour. It was a kick to know I had a part in it.


So ... you've always been an agitator :winkwink:

.

Vjo 07-22-2011 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 18301127)
my only claim to fame with Howard was I was responsible for one of the most hate filled vicious rants Howard has ever spewed. This was a few years before I was on the Internet.

My AM radio could bring in WFAN in NYC where Don Imus hosted the morning show, one early morning I heard Imus getting cocky because Howard had been laying off him for awhile and Imus had recently married his young trophy wife and Howard was still with his average looking wife Allison - so Imus was making some pretty mean comments about Allison. So I called Bababooey who at that time would pick up the phone, not sure if he still does, Stern show was a lot smaller back in those days and told him what Imus had been saying. 10 minutes later Howard went absolutely insane on Imus for about half an hour. It was a kick to know I had a part in it.

Haha excellent :thumbsup Cool man Thanks for those stations. I now have over 2000 bits recorded and alphabetized. :) And all full shows back through 1994 :) But I will never listen to them all. I used to be on the newsgroups too. :)

Not so much anymore. I better keep that handle private. :)

It was more fun to here him when you would get a rogue station as he was careful back then that no markets get the signal or show without his consent.

Vjo 07-22-2011 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 18301136)
So ... you've always been an agitator :winkwink:

.

haha Mutt plays it straight now days but he is a wild man :)

Mutt 07-22-2011 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vjo (Post 18301143)
Haha excellent :thumbsup Cool man Thanks for those stations. I now have over 2000 bits recorded and alphabetized. :) And all full shows back through 1994 :) But I will never listen to them all. I used to be on the newsgroups too. :)

Not so much anymore. I better keep that handle private. :)

It was more fun to here him when you would get a rogue station as he was careful back then that no markets get the signal or show without his consent.

The golden age of Stern was the 80's and early 90's - things changed after "Private Parts" and he became more of a national celebrity. I have the Channel 9 TV shows on VHS in a box somewhere - as bad as they were production wise they are amazing.

Mutt 07-22-2011 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 18301136)
So ... you've always been an agitator :winkwink:

.

i gave up being an industry board agitator years and years ago - pre-GFY days for me. still a lot of shit that pisses me off but it's futile.


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