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nico-t 08-09-2011 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherry7 (Post 18341065)
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The posters here are racist morons, who fill there brains with tabloid garbage.

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On the contrary, the media are the ones who desperately avoid ethnicity at all cost to prevent total escalation. And everybody who calls it the way it is, is a racist. That's the way it's been going for as long as i live, and look at the result. Luckily more and more people see it and dont live in lala land with their head up their asses.

VikingMan 08-09-2011 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Warren (Post 18341076)
And wtf are you? never read such gibberish in my life. I suggest you learn to read and write English first, before you run you're mouth on here, idiot.

So show us how well you can write in Dutch? You do realize that he is Dutch and English is not his first language right? How many languages do you know? Many Dutch people know 4 languages. I would say he is doing a good job for not being a native speaker.

Warren 08-09-2011 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 18341109)
wow... what the fuck do you know? You are in the US and will never understand the shit thats going on here. You are an ignorant clueless fool judging by your post.

Wow, congrats, how long did that take you? be quiet you idiot. facts for you. you will never be English or American, accept it and move on with you're miserable
life.

maxxtro 08-09-2011 01:03 AM

They are just ordinary people getting their taxes back :thumbsup


Deputy Chief Command 08-09-2011 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 18341109)
wow... what the fuck do you know? You are in the US and will never understand the shit thats going on here. You are an ignorant clueless fool judging by your post.

and since when did you start living in London ? what do you know about society's problems in the UK ? have you ever lived there ?

it is the second time in 8 months or so that there are riots in London ? did you forgot about the ones in december ?

Warren 08-09-2011 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ******* (Post 18341117)
So show us how well you can write in Dutch? You do realize that he is Dutch and English is not his first language right? How many languages do you know? Many Dutch people know 4 languages. I would say he is doing a good job for not being a native speaker.


Hey, he can can speak any language he wants, I read what he wrote, don't bother me.

Deputy Chief Command 08-09-2011 01:08 AM

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=2d6_1312854614

white people and black people working together

Warren 08-09-2011 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ******* (Post 18341117)
So show us how well you can write in Dutch? You do realize that he is Dutch and English is not his first language right? How many languages do you know? Many Dutch people know 4 languages. I would say he is doing a good job for not being a native speaker.


BTW if you want to talk to me call me.

Deputy Chief Command 08-09-2011 01:11 AM

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0a8_1312850113

police has to retreat! this one is actually funny

nico-t 08-09-2011 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Warren (Post 18341121)
Wow, congrats, how long did that take you? be quiet you idiot. facts for you. you will never be English or American, accept it and move on with you're miserable
life.

what? :1orglaugh are you drunk/high or something? Not sure what your problem is. You sure get your panties in a bunch when someone hits you with the reality that's going on around here, and not with the bullshit the media feeds you.

Deputy Chief Command 08-09-2011 01:13 AM

would be funny if the EDL / BNP started a counter protest and tried to take England back

fireworks

TorchWood 08-09-2011 01:16 AM

Its not mainly to do with races, but rather classes. Chuck into that mix, school holidays (youths are on the streets) and mob mentality and you have a defcon 1 shit bomb. People are angry at the state of the economy, its been building for a while and any reason to lash out is going to spark them off.

DamianJ 08-09-2011 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by rogueteens (Post 18339947)
True, most Brits have a mix of right and left wing views. Funnily, the major left wing party is now in many ways more right wing than the traditional right especially in the rights of the population.
All the major parties though ignore calls for reforms in immigration and a referendum on the EU.

There is no left wing party any more. Sadly.

Deputy Chief Command 08-09-2011 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by TorchWood (Post 18341142)
Its not mainly to do with races, but rather classes. Chuck into that mix, school holidays (youths are on the streets) and mob mentality and you have a defcon 1 shit bomb. People are angry at the state of the economy, its been building for a while and any reason to lash out is going to spark them off.

I think it is the muslims fault! we should send them all back to Afghanistan :helpme

Warren 08-09-2011 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 18341139)
what? :1orglaugh are you drunk/high or something? Not sure what your problem is. You sure get your panties in a bunch when someone hits you with the reality that's going on around here, and not with the bullshit the media feeds you.


O'K ill leave you alone. just remember those imimgrants you talked about come from countries not too far from you, no doubt, dogs are treated better.
what makes you so special?

TorchWood 08-09-2011 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Deputy Chief Command (Post 18341144)
I think it is the muslims fault! we should send them all back to Afghanistan :helpme

Mus·lim
n.
1. also Mos·lem = A believer in or adherent of Islam.

Number of Muslims worldwide = 1,600,000,000

Therefore, your statement is incorrect purely for its ignorance. Muslim is not a race :winkwink:

roly 08-09-2011 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 18340867)
Cameron cut them off the 'dole'; reduced social service spending to reduce the debt/deficit spending is what I read as the real background. "Austerity measures." The shooting was just the match to start the fire.

In the 80's riots they said it was police racism, but that's not the case now, and the cuts haven't even started to bite yet, so it's not that either. As far as the dole, if they wanted a job, there's plenty of work out there, and no ones dole has been cut anyway. It's just opportunist looting and mindless rioting. Just as football hooliganism was seen as fun, so is this.

Deputy Chief Command 08-09-2011 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by TorchWood (Post 18341157)
Mus·lim
n.
1. also Mos·lem = A believer in or adherent of Islam.

Number of Muslims worldwide = 1,600,000,000

Therefore, your statement is incorrect purely for its ignorance. Muslim is not a race :winkwink:

where did I state it was a race ? you are the ignorant one !

I merely stated it might be a good idea to send them all back to Afghanistan ! because we all know that is where most muslims come from

CurrentlySober 08-09-2011 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by maxxtro (Post 18341124)
They are just ordinary people getting their taxes back :thumbsup


Looking on the bright side though...

At least now I CAN afford to go shopping :)

TorchWood 08-09-2011 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Deputy Chief Command (Post 18341175)
where did I state it was a race ? you are the ignorant one !

I merely stated it might be a good idea to send them all back to Afghanistan ! because we all know that is where most Muslims come from

You implied "we" should send "them" all back. Send who all back if many British born people are Muslim?? Send them all back to where they were never from?? As I mentioned, Muslim is not a race, rather a choice so "they" belong everywhere they are.

And no, not all of us know that Afghanistan is where most Muslims come from, some of us know that only around 2% of the worlds Muslim population come from there.

Cherry7 08-09-2011 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Deputy Chief Command (Post 18341175)
where did I state it was a race ? you are the ignorant one !

I merely stated it might be a good idea to send them all back to Afghanistan ! because we all know that is where most muslims come from

Is that like send the jews to work camps in the east ? Is that your idea?

Deputy Chief Command 08-09-2011 01:59 AM

why are people taking my comments about muslims seriously ? wtf is wrong with you people!

muslims have nothing to do with these RIOTS .. my comment was supposed to be a jibe at the people blaming muslims for everything !! get off my case ! lol

Cherry7 08-09-2011 02:07 AM

you have to use the irony font

biskoppen 08-09-2011 04:24 AM

Didn't take long before the good old racism card was pulled :) Sadly for the left wing of Europe it fucking aint work no more

CamTraffic 08-09-2011 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherry7 (Post 18341065)
The rioters are not immigrants and the riots are not caused by immigration.

The posters here are racist morons, who fill there brains with tabloid garbage.


Middles class youth that are studying have no grant but is deep are debt, when they can get a job, they are paid minimum wage and kept on part time contracts to avoid giving him any rights.

Working class Youth, which no longer have work, live without hope, with wealth all around them.

Capitalism which offers so much gives so little to its poorest.

Rioting has been the tradition of the British for hundreds of years well before immigration (unless you are talking about the Normans)

Our leaders representative of the super rich, who defend their friends in the financial center, cutting the living standards of normal people, and sending the economy further into recession.

The tragedy is that there is no left alternative on the table and this is rebellion without politics just rage.

Didn't they start (the Riots) because some Father of 4 was wrongfully Killed by Police?



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Originally Posted by Deputy Chief Command (Post 18341187)
why are people taking my comments about muslims seriously ? wtf is wrong with you people!

muslims have nothing to do with these RIOTS .. my comment was supposed to be a jibe at the people blaming muslims for everything !! get off my case ! lol

Americans just love to blame Muslims.
For them, they are all bad, i stopped arguing, it's pointless.

SimonScans 08-09-2011 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by biskoppen (Post 18339903)
Is the majority of UK right or left wing?

Neither. The overriding trait of brits is authoritarian. It's one reason why all the leftie brits here moan there's no party for them and all the righties moan their party is a bit shit too.

EVERYTHING in the UK requires a license, is illegal, about to be illegal or is generally just too pointy for any brit to be trusted with. Nanny always knows best, whether is a Labour nanny or a Tory nanny.

The main strategy of the UK is to ban everything or half arse any job or task while going LALALALALA and hoping for the best. It rarely works and is why we have aircraft carriers but no planey type things to go on the top of them.

One of the reasons the riots have got so out of control and so much property damaged is because no one other than the police have the gear or the support in law to actually protect their own stuff. There will be no armed to the teeth Koreans protecting their store fronts, and no looters will get shot. Last night a couple of looters got stuck behind a roller shutter that dropped behind them trapping them in the gap between the glass and the metal. The plod rescued them. Meanwhile, in side streets 90 year olds had their front doors kicked in, and no plod responded.

Ultimately who gives a fuck why rioters riot. As long as I know I can defend my family and property from whatever comes through my front door then I really don't care. That's one for social workers and good luck with that. The problem is I can't. The riots were sparked by a north London bad lad getting shot by the plod. His specific crime was to have a handgun - just having one got him shot and killed. All handguns were banned a few years ago in the UK for the law abiding, and in any event, the most recent case where a remote rural farmer shot and killed an intruder in his farmhouse resulted in his jailing for our equivalent of murder one.

So bad people have guns, good people don't and couldn't use them even if they did. And as we can see, it's only taken three days of DDOS rioting from the flatscreen liberation front for the police to be overwhelmed. And lets be honest here, they totally are.

Trouble has flashed all over the UK and in every case I've seen they've withdrawn or done nothing. Once the police line had failed there was in general nothing to stop rioters doing what they wanted. Except in Kingsland Road the Turkish community got all their blokes on the street and got things under control, no riot, no fire, no looting. Meanwhile the average brits response was to tweet about bringing a broom to todays cleanup. Nothing shows a looter who's boss like a thorough spring clean the morning after. How fucking gay is that?

Everyone is asking today which state run service has failed them. And there's the brit mindset right there - it's YOUR job to look after me. But the real question is why aren't we allowed to take our own precautions? Actual precautions, ones that might stop five people in your hallway, when everything else has failed.

Just for the record, I don't own a gun and don't have a baseball bat under my bed, but then I don't live in a shitty area. I'd just like the option to do so if I chose.

wehateporn 08-09-2011 04:56 AM

It's convenient how they now have an excuse to bring the army on the streets during the collapse of the Dollar.

Most likely the secret services have been organising the riots so as we believe that the army is here to protect us, not to control us

:2 cents:

blackwater 08-09-2011 05:02 AM

I spent a good part of my life studying criminal behavior. If you study Mob rule for long enough you do see that races riot in different ways.
The Asians for example are almost unique in the fact that in northern cities they set fires so they could have one sided battles with fire fighters but scatter when there is any involvement from the police.
Blacks as a rule are far more likely to loot and and set fires to their own neighborhoods.
Whites are more likely to have running battles with the police or rival gangs and vandalism.

It all boils down to boredom and the potent influence of the "mob"

That is simplifying things but there is science at work when it comes to how different races riot.

If im racist by saying that I would rather have whites rioting outside my house than blacks then thats for you to decide. The fact is, I would rather have a brick through my window than petrol poured through my letter box.

As for the EDL. This rag tag bunch of racist thugs will never represent me. They are the lowest of the low. No science with these morons, just hate and no brain cells.

TheSquealer 08-09-2011 05:05 AM

Its pure comedy that in this day and age and after seeing this crap happen so often that people would still believe that people are "rioting" with purpose. looting stores. stealing property, burning buildings all "for a reason"

Wake the fuck up.

The reason is simply safety in numbers and opportunity - it all boils down to the fundamental principles of crowd psychology. They aren't stealing from stores to protest anything. They are doing it because they are young, immature assholes who feel safe in a crowd and just like you see the true personality of a person once they get drunk, you are seeing the true personalities of these people once they feel they can get away with anything. A bunch of ghetto ass idiots with no respect for anything.

Emil 08-09-2011 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 18340112)
luckily not all Europe is affected by the immigration problems

Yet... :disgust

Brujah 08-09-2011 06:09 AM

They are protesting Obamacare.

Cherry7 08-09-2011 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by SimonScans (Post 18341354)
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Ultimately who gives a fuck why rioters riot. As long as I know I can defend my family and property from whatever comes through my front door then I really don't care. That's one for social workers and good luck with that. The problem is I can't. The riots were sparked by a north London bad lad getting shot by the plod. His specific crime was to have a handgun - just having one got him shot and killed. All handguns were banned a few years ago in the UK for the law abiding, and in any event, the most recent case where a remote rural farmer shot and killed an intruder in his farmhouse resulted in his jailing for our equivalent of murder one.

Everyone is asking today which state run service has failed them. And there's the brit mindset right there - it's YOUR job to look after me. But the real question is why aren't we allowed to take our own precautions? Actual precautions, ones that might stop five people in your hallway, when everything else has failed.

Just for the record, I don't own a gun and don't have a baseball bat under my bed, but then I don't live in a shitty area. I'd just like the option to do so if I chose.

They were sparked off by the Police killing someone they said had a gun.

We don't know if it was a gun, a replica or if it was in a sock somewhere in his car. We do know that the police have lied about him shooting at them. We also know that the police lie on a regular basis. knowing that the tabloid press will print the lie BIG and bury the correction weeks later on page 6. So instant press release call him a drug dealer and say that he shot at them first.

The problem with our poor farmer was he shot them in the back trying to leave. You have the right to defend yourself but not to execute people, only the US president is allowed to shoot unarmed criminals in cold blood.

Something stop 5 people in your hallway?

either a gun with 6 bullets or a society at peace with it self where everyone gets a fair chance, employment, education housing etc.

Paul Markham 08-09-2011 06:41 AM

It's not a simple race or ethnic situation.

It started with poor, then quickly became age/background.

It's a mix of black, white, poor and not so poor. The common factor is age. Youngest arrested so far 11 years old, doesn't look like many of the looters are over 25.

They're using this as an opportunity to get high on violence and destruction and to steal things. Gangs on motor bikes road to a Sony warehouse, robbed what they could carry and set fire to the building.

So far the police response has been very weak. Not arriving early enough or at all. Fire crews unable to get to fires and the police can't protect them.

They're upping the numbers of police for 6,000 to 16,000. Which makes me wonder. What if the kids don't come out tonight and just wait for the numbers to go back to normal?

The real problem is where will it spring up tonight. Last night it was not only London, also Bristol, Birmingham and Liverpool. So what if tonight it's Manchester, Luton and Sheffield????

They need to take a very firm hand, rubber bullets are available and water cannon should be brought in, I believe they still have them in N. Ireland. Unless they were got rid of them.

Then solve the long term problems of kids with a lack of discipline.

Cherry7 08-09-2011 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18341526)
They need to take a very firm hand, rubber bullets are available and water cannon should be brought in, I believe they still have them in N. Ireland. Unless they were got rid of them.

Then solve the long term problems of kids with a lack of discipline.

So a situation which starts off with a death at the hands of the police can be solved by causing more deaths using rubber bullets.

Yes, what a shinning success story was N Ireland, civil rights to 25 years of civil war.


It is the politicians that need the discipline

" you represent everyone, everyone should have a good life in this country, not just the wealthy "

Repeat

TheSquealer 08-09-2011 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherry7 (Post 18341545)
So a situation which starts off with a death at the hands of the police can be solved by causing more deaths using rubber bullets.

yeah yeah yeah... and the Vancouver BC riots just started with a totally tragic loss of the Canucks in a hockey game. Always a sad and tragic story that leads to people looting stores and destroying their own neighborhoods like fucking morons.

Kids stealing, breaking and burning shit has NOTHING to do with anything other than the opportunity to break, steal and burn shit.

Just because you have deep rooted issues with authority, does not mean they are right in what they are doing or that they don't need to be dealt with severely.

:2 cents:

http://www.cbc.ca/photos/galleries/7...eb_8column.jpg

biskoppen 08-09-2011 07:28 AM

You really have to wonder what the left wing socialists in this thread are doing in this business to begin with..

MaDalton 08-09-2011 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Emil (Post 18341410)
Yet... :disgust

i feel pretty safe in CZ, czech people are far too racist to let it get that far - it's simply not comfortable to live here for people who try to leech off the system (only for gypsies who breed like rabitts but at least speak czech).

but good luck to someone from africa or whatever who comes here and tries to deal with authorities...

mamaliga 08-09-2011 08:17 AM

sorry, i won`t do that again

Cherry7 08-09-2011 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by biskoppen (Post 18341620)
You really have to wonder what the left wing socialists in this thread are doing in this business to begin with..

When you see the retarded posts here, you think there must be hope for the marginalised in our society.

Paul Markham 08-09-2011 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherry7
So a situation which starts off with a death at the hands of the police can be solved by causing more deaths using rubber bullets.

If they don't clamp down hard, a family could be burned alive. A 60 year old man is already in hospital in a severe condition another youth was mugged.

My answer would be water cannon, but how many of them will be needed to cover all the areas. If the yobs don't want to get hit by a plastic bullet they have an easy choice. STAY AT HOME.

Do you have a better solution?


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